Bar Disclosure: How should I handle this? Forum

[Anonymous User]

During college I was at a dorm party that was busted by the residential advisers. Liquor was involved.

I was underage at the time, but I wasn't drinking.

When I went to go see if I had been written up, the RA couldn't find anything in the dorm's records.

So at the time, I chalked it up to getting a warning. But now I'm worried.

Thoughts?

[ScottRiqui]

So you weren't drinking underage? You were just at a party that was broken up?

Were there any consequences for you at the time (official letter, volunteer hours, etc.)? Unless you were personally given some kind of punishment or administrative action, I wouldn't bother. What would you report anyway? "Uh, I once saw some people get in trouble for drinking underage - I can still haz bar admittance?"

[Anonymous User]

So you weren't drinking underage? You were just at a party that was broken up?

Were there any consequences for you at the time (official letter, volunteer hours, etc.)? Unless you were personally given some kind of punishment or administrative action, I wouldn't bother. What would you report anyway? "Uh, I once saw some people get in trouble for drinking underage - I can still haz bar admittance?"

In a nutshell, yes.

The RA walked in, said he saw/smelled liquor. And then said he was writing people up.

Next day I went to the RA's administrative office to see what the next steps were.

And the administrator looked up my name, and didn't see any record of the incident. I never received an official letter, or any punishment. Nothing.

My primary concern, frankly, is that even though I was told there was no record, that something out there exists detailing about the event.

[ikethegremlin]

So you weren't drinking underage? You were just at a party that was broken up?

Were there any consequences for you at the time (official letter, volunteer hours, etc.)? Unless you were personally given some kind of punishment or administrative action, I wouldn't bother. What would you report anyway? "Uh, I once saw some people get in trouble for drinking underage - I can still haz bar admittance?"

In a nutshell, yes.

The RA walked in, said he saw/smelled liquor. And then said he was writing people up.

Next day I went to the RA's administrative office to see what the next steps were.

And the administrator looked up my name, and didn't see any record of the incident. I never received an official letter, or any punishment. Nothing.

My primary concern, frankly, is that even though I was told there was no record, that something out there exists detailing about the event.

So... you're worried that the bar is going to find out about the time you didn't get written up in college, didn't receive an official warning, and didn't get punished?

[Anonymous User]

So you weren't drinking underage? You were just at a party that was broken up?

Were there any consequences for you at the time (official letter, volunteer hours, etc.)? Unless you were personally given some kind of punishment or administrative action, I wouldn't bother. What would you report anyway? "Uh, I once saw some people get in trouble for drinking underage - I can still haz bar admittance?"

In a nutshell, yes.

The RA walked in, said he saw/smelled liquor. And then said he was writing people up.

Next day I went to the RA's administrative office to see what the next steps were.

And the administrator looked up my name, and didn't see any record of the incident. I never received an official letter, or any punishment. Nothing.

My primary concern, frankly, is that even though I was told there was no record, that something out there exists detailing about the event.

So... you're worried that the bar is going to find out about the time you didn't get written up in college, didn't receive an official warning, and didn't get punished?

I know it sounds ridiculous, but I'm just worried.

Again, my primary concern is that there's some official record out there that I was never made aware of, and the bar finds out about it.

Yet that shouldn't happen because I straight up asked the dorm's administration if there was a record of what happened, and whether I was in fact written up, and I was told that no record exists.

Here's my nightmare scenario: I don't disclose this event. Bar does an investigation and discovers an official record of said incident. Trouble ensues.

[dixiecupdrinking]

Read the instructions on anything you have to fill out. If the language could be read to require you to disclose an incident that you weren't cited for, then disclose it. If it says you have to disclose any "citations" or something like that, then you don't have to disclose this.

[didntretake]

Why not just disclose it and not worry anymore? I am positive people have been admitted with criminal records, let alone something like this.

[dietcoke0]

So you weren't drinking underage? You were just at a party that was broken up?

Were there any consequences for you at the time (official letter, volunteer hours, etc.)? Unless you were personally given some kind of punishment or administrative action, I wouldn't bother. What would you report anyway? "Uh, I once saw some people get in trouble for drinking underage - I can still haz bar admittance?"

In a nutshell, yes.

The RA walked in, said he saw/smelled liquor. And then said he was writing people up.

Next day I went to the RA's administrative office to see what the next steps were.

And the administrator looked up my name, and didn't see any record of the incident. I never received an official letter, or any punishment. Nothing.

My primary concern, frankly, is that even though I was told there was no record, that something out there exists detailing about the event.

So... you're worried that the bar is going to find out about the time you didn't get written up in college, didn't receive an official warning, and didn't get punished?

Hey, moron 0L read the fucking rules:
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=170603

C&F is serious, and if there is any written record of the incident, then it could look like he was covering it up, and could count against him if he's a borderline case.


My advice is to call up your school and check to see whether there is any record of the incident. Explain yourself truthfully, and let them know you just want to know because while you did nothing wrong, and were not cited, it could affect your Bar application. Don't take "we don't have any records that I know of" for an answer, and ask who might have them.

If there is no record, then I wouldn't worry about it, unless there was rules in place about being around alcohol or something. But I mean if you weren't drinking, and weren't cited, then it doesn't sound like you actually got in any trouble, and it was just those around you (maybe they realized at the time you didn't partake)

[encore1101]

Tbh, I would just disclose, even though you probably don't have to. It'd be a strange situation if the school could write up a disciplinary action against you without your knowledge. However, by not disclosing, you have nothing to gain and everything to lose. Like an earlier poster said, the bar admissions committee won't give two shits about this incident (unless it was part of a pattern of behavior), but if in the minuscule chance they find out, you're fucked.

[Anonymous User]

OP here.

Thank you everyone.

I was pretty conflicted about this. And to err on the side of caution, I'll disclose it.

But does that mean I now have to amend my law school application?

I mean, when I was applying to law school and saw the C&F part, I didn't think I needed to disclose this because I was never punished for it, and didn't even receive an official warning. So I just thought it was similar to receiving a warning when you're pulled over for speeding.

[dixiecupdrinking]

OP here.

Thank you everyone.

I was pretty conflicted about this. And to err on the side of caution, I'll disclose it.

But does that mean I now have to amend my law school application?

I mean, when I was applying to law school and saw the C&F part, I didn't think I needed to disclose this because I was never punished for it, and didn't even receive an official warning. So I just thought it was similar to receiving a warning when you're pulled over for speeding.

I still don't understand why you now think it's anything more than this.

From what you've said... you were at a party that was broken up, but there's no reason to think anyone so much as recorded the fact that you were there. Right?

[Pikappraider]

OP here.

Thank you everyone.

I was pretty conflicted about this. And to err on the side of caution, I'll disclose it.

But does that mean I now have to amend my law school application?

I mean, when I was applying to law school and saw the C&F part, I didn't think I needed to disclose this because I was never punished for it, and didn't even receive an official warning. So I just thought it was similar to receiving a warning when you're pulled over for speeding.

As long as you didn't lie on your law school app it's fine. Usually the apps ask for either convictions or arrests, this is neither. No need to amend.