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PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:31 pm

Thanks.

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Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Post by Desert Fox » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:33 pm

This would help you how?

It's not like they are going to take two spots by waiting.

You should be mass mailing not begging for someone's sloppy seconds.
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Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:41 pm

Desert Fox wrote:This would help you how?

It's not like they are going to take two spots by waiting.

You should be mass mailing not begging for someone's sloppy seconds.
I'm sure you're intelligent enough to know how holding multiple offers at once could be detrimental those in my position who have the possibility of being on some type of wait-list.

Thx for the advice bud

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Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Post by mr.hands » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:44 pm

Desert Fox wrote:This would help you how?

It's not like they are going to take two spots by waiting.

You should be mass mailing not begging for someone's sloppy seconds.
This is absurd advice. Of course firms will extend offers to other candidates if people don't accept them.

Also a job offer isn't "sloppy seconds," particularly in this economy. I have no idea what you're talking about...

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Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Post by Desert Fox » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:57 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:This would help you how?

It's not like they are going to take two spots by waiting.

You should be mass mailing not begging for someone's sloppy seconds.
I'm sure you're intelligent enough to know how holding multiple offers at once could be detrimental those in my position who have the possibility of being on some type of wait-list.

Thx for the advice bud
If you mean waiting an extra week or so is detrimental, sure. But it isn't.

Also, firms put out way more offers than they they need because people turn them down. You turning them down won't mean a new person gets an offer. An offer isn't a "Seat" at the SA program.
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Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:03 pm

Sure I'll make a relatively huge career decision so that you can hear a week earlier. :roll:

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Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Post by PvblivsScipio » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:38 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:This would help you how?

It's not like they are going to take two spots by waiting.

You should be mass mailing not begging for someone's sloppy seconds.
I'm sure you're intelligent enough to know how holding multiple offers at once could be detrimental those in my position who have the possibility of being on some type of wait-list.

Thx for the advice bud
If you mean waiting an extra week or so is detrimental, sure. But it isn't.

Also, firms put out way more offers than they they need because people turn them down. You turning them down won't mean a new person gets an offer. An offer isn't a "Seat" at the SA program.
This is true, but firms do keep a few people on the B-list.

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Post by bearsfan23 » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:54 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:This would help you how?

It's not like they are going to take two spots by waiting.

You should be mass mailing not begging for someone's sloppy seconds.
I'm sure you're intelligent enough to know how holding multiple offers at once could be detrimental those in my position who have the possibility of being on some type of wait-list.

Thx for the advice bud
If you mean waiting an extra week or so is detrimental, sure. But it isn't.

Also, firms put out way more offers than they they need because people turn them down. You turning them down won't mean a new person gets an offer. An offer isn't a "Seat" at the SA program.
You serious? You really have zero idea how legal hiring works? For firms that are hiring only a few SAs, somebody turning down and offer absolutely opens up an offer for somebody else.

It won't make a difference at a place like Davis Polk or STB, but it definitely does at smaller offices.

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Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Post by Actus Reus » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:55 pm

Agree with DF. Turning them down doesn't do you any good.

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Post by JamMasterJ » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:58 pm

bearsfan23 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:This would help you how?

It's not like they are going to take two spots by waiting.

You should be mass mailing not begging for someone's sloppy seconds.
I'm sure you're intelligent enough to know how holding multiple offers at once could be detrimental those in my position who have the possibility of being on some type of wait-list.

Thx for the advice bud
If you mean waiting an extra week or so is detrimental, sure. But it isn't.

Also, firms put out way more offers than they they need because people turn them down. You turning them down won't mean a new person gets an offer. An offer isn't a "Seat" at the SA program.
You serious? You really have zero idea how legal hiring works? For firms that are hiring only a few SAs, somebody turning down and offer absolutely opens up an offer for somebody else.

It won't make a difference at a place like Davis Polk or STB, but it definitely does at smaller offices.
but you're aware they will ask you eventually?

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Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Post by Desert Fox » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:58 pm

bearsfan23 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:This would help you how?

It's not like they are going to take two spots by waiting.

You should be mass mailing not begging for someone's sloppy seconds.
I'm sure you're intelligent enough to know how holding multiple offers at once could be detrimental those in my position who have the possibility of being on some type of wait-list.

Thx for the advice bud
If you mean waiting an extra week or so is detrimental, sure. But it isn't.

Also, firms put out way more offers than they they need because people turn them down. You turning them down won't mean a new person gets an offer. An offer isn't a "Seat" at the SA program.
You serious? You really have zero idea how legal hiring works? For firms that are hiring only a few SAs, somebody turning down and offer absolutely opens up an offer for somebody else.

It won't make a difference at a place like Davis Polk or STB, but it definitely does at smaller offices.
Even small offices factor in acceptance.
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Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:10 pm

I've interviewed with a lot of biglaw firms' smaller offices at OCI, which was over 4 weeks ago, and I still haven't heard a single thing from quite a few of them. I think people declining offers has to have some impact on my odds of getting CBs at these offices. Otherwise, I feel I would have been dinged a long time ago. I'll gladly take market paying sloppy seconds.

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Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:37 pm

Got two offers off of hold lists at satellite offices of V50 firms, so in my experience, yes, it does make a difference if people reject offers.

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Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:43 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Got two offers off of hold lists at satellite offices of V50 firms, so in my experience, yes, it does make a difference if people reject offers.
Have you rejected at least one yet and passed it forward? If not you're part of the problem, not the solution

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Post by Desert Fox » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:44 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Got two offers off of hold lists at satellite offices of V50 firms, so in my experience, yes, it does make a difference if people reject offers.
Obviously if not enough people accept there will be space.

But the timing does not matter and it's not a 1-1 ratio.
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Post by Actus Reus » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:45 pm

This is kind of silly. They'll maybe give you an offer in due time if someone rejects. Don't make others rush the decision.

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Post by mr.hands » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:46 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Got two offers off of hold lists at satellite offices of V50 firms, so in my experience, yes, it does make a difference if people reject offers.
Have you rejected at least one yet and passed it forward? If not you're part of the problem, not the solution
While this "sloppy seconds" line is absurd and rejecting offers does help other candidates to a (probably small) degree, I think you're going to far here. Let the man/woman make a decision. He's not sitting on several offers and twiddling his thumbs.
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Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Post by Tiago Splitter » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:47 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Got two offers off of hold lists at satellite offices of V50 firms, so in my experience, yes, it does make a difference if people reject offers.
People are only helping others if they turn down all of their offers. Unless you think there are law students out there accepting multiple offers. Come on people.

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Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Got two offers off of hold lists at satellite offices of V50 firms, so in my experience, yes, it does make a difference if people reject offers.
Have you rejected at least one yet and passed it forward? If not you're part of the problem, not the solution
Yes. Have accepted at my top choice, rejected my other 4 offers immediately thereafter.

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Post by Anonymous User » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:51 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Got two offers off of hold lists at satellite offices of V50 firms, so in my experience, yes, it does make a difference if people reject offers.
Have you rejected at least one yet and passed it forward? If not you're part of the problem, not the solution
Yes. Have accepted at my top choice, rejected my other 4 offers immediately thereafter.
I got an offer from my top choice. Didnt reject others right away, went to offer dinner at top choice and learned information that made top choice just a choice. I'd advise people with multiple offers to collect as much information as possible before committing. You only get to start your career once.

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Post by Anonymous User » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:53 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Got two offers off of hold lists at satellite offices of V50 firms, so in my experience, yes, it does make a difference if people reject offers.
Have you rejected at least one yet and passed it forward? If not you're part of the problem, not the solution
Yes. Have accepted at my top choice, rejected my other 4 offers immediately thereafter.
I don't think its outrageous to ask that others with multiple offers to narrow it down to 3, and to not wait the entire 28 days to make a decision. it would be helpful for other people. obviously they don't have to, morally or practically, but it could help a person out who only has 1 or 2 CBs who might be one a wait list.

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Tiago Splitter wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Got two offers off of hold lists at satellite offices of V50 firms, so in my experience, yes, it does make a difference if people reject offers.
People are only helping others if they turn down all of their offers. Unless you think there are law students out there accepting multiple offers. Come on people.
Agreed. It's nonsense to think that people could work at more than 1 firm during the summer

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Post by Anonymous User » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:56 pm

Everyone, this is a very stressful time for us all, those with offers having to decide and those without any. If you legitimately need more time to make up your mind, please do take it--this is a serious decision that shouldn't be taken lightly. However, if you definitely know where you want to go for the sumer and are just sitting on your other offers until the days run out just for the sake of doing so, then you're just a jerk to everyone involved.

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Post by Tiago Splitter » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:57 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Got two offers off of hold lists at satellite offices of V50 firms, so in my experience, yes, it does make a difference if people reject offers.
People are only helping others if they turn down all of their offers. Unless you think there are law students out there accepting multiple offers. Come on people.
Agreed. It's nonsense to think that people could work at more than 1 firm during the summer
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Post by ymmv » Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:03 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Everyone, this is a very stressful time for us all, those with offers having to decide and those without any. If you legitimately need more time to make up your mind, please do take it--this is a serious decision that shouldn't be taken lightly. However, if you definitely know where you want to go for the sumer and are just sitting on your other offers until the days run out just for the sake of doing so, then you're just a jerk to everyone involved.
I can almost guarantee you none of us are just sitting on offers for the fuck of it.

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

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