Why is my ratio of screeners to CB's so low? Forum

[Anonymous User]

top 1/3 MVP, interview well, weak resume, k-jd

45 screeners (20 at OCI, 25 over the summer), so far only two CB's.

30 CA, 15 NY

[09042014]

top 1/3 MVP, interview well, weak resume, k-jd

45 screeners (20 at OCI, 25 over the summer), so far only two CB's.

30 CA, 15 NY

Probably a combo of terrible resume and caustic personality.

You need to do a practice interview with someone who won't blow smoke up ur bum.

[soj]

Firms can be slow in offering CBs, but more likely you're a weak interviewer.

[TFALAWL]

top 1/3 MVP, interview well, weak resume, k-jd

45 screeners (20 at OCI, 25 over the summer), so far only two CB's.

30 CA, 15 NY

Probably a combo of terrible resume and caustic personality.

You need to do a practice interview with someone who won't blow smoke up ur bum.

I know people overestimate their interviewing abilities, but I've done a lot of mock interviews, and am very personable. I also have a solid "pitch" . Even if both of what you said is true though, how is this statistically possible

[hichvichwoh]

top 1/3 MVP, interview well, weak resume, k-jd

45 screeners (20 at OCI, 25 over the summer), so far only two CB's.

30 CA, 15 NY

Probably a combo of terrible resume and caustic personality.

You need to do a practice interview with someone who won't blow smoke up ur bum.

I know people overestimate their interviewing abilities, but I've done a lot of mock interviews, and am very personable. I also have a solid "pitch" . Even if both of what you said is true though, how is this statistically possible

because you come off as the type of person who feels somehow entitled to more than 2 immediate callbacks?

[TFALAWL]

absolutely not entitled. But the 25 over the summer were a couple of weeks ago - I only want ONE job, and I'm not picky.

[soj]

are your ties to CA strong? did you apply to firms with large SA programs? MVP top third is decent but not great.

i'm still pretty sure interviewing is part of your problem.

[Anonymous User]

Having similar concerns :/ Top 10% at CCN and did about 10 screeners over the past few weeks and only have 1 CB along with a schlew of dings. Getting worried that I'm really THAT bad at interviewing.

Edit: I mean, I guess this should be expected and everyone gets lots of rejections. Just something to get used to.

[Anonymous User]

How slow are some firms in taking callbacks? Like, what's the outer limit of when it's been too far. For some, I haven't heard of a ding or a callback, I dunno if the firm hasn't met yet, I'm on a waiting list if group A doesnt work out, or at what point should I just be like "ok that firm isnt happening"

[Anonymous User]

Strong ties to CA.

Interviewing:

It's hard to quantify and everyone is different. But I think I interview well based off of 1. mock interview feedback 2. sheer number of experience - over 20 hours of "flight time". Possible self-critique: I can be a bit cocky as a defense mechanism

[Anonymous User]

Top 1/3 at lower T14. I had the same worry because I had done almost 20 screeners at job fairs and off-campus interview tours, but had gotten just 1 CB. I almost made a whiny thread about it too. Decided not to because I don't want to be the guy that makes whiny threads.

OCI just started for us this week, but between the first two days of OCI and the late bloomers at the job fairs (some well over a week after the screener), I've gotten 4 more CBs in the span of 24 hours. The moral of the story is: let the game play out, don't freak out until it's time to freak out.

[Anonymous User]

It's also possible that I was "weak" during my 25 over the summer, and I've done well this week it's just too soon to tell - plausible?

[09042014]

top 1/3 MVP, interview well, weak resume, k-jd

45 screeners (20 at OCI, 25 over the summer), so far only two CB's.

30 CA, 15 NY

Probably a combo of terrible resume and caustic personality.

You need to do a practice interview with someone who won't blow smoke up ur bum.

I know people overestimate their interviewing abilities, but I've done a lot of mock interviews, and am very personable. I also have a solid "pitch" . Even if both of what you said is true though, how is this statistically possible

I could see your total lack of a resume being a huge problem. You didn't do internships in college. That would strike me as immature. You'd have to have a strong interview to overcome that with me.

Your pitch might be defective. What is it? Sometimes people get stupid ideas and go all in on them and ruin stuff.

You may be personable but come off badly in an interview. Really really really do a mock interview before your call backs. Now isn't the time to be prideful.

Top third is decent grades, but that's not going to get a call back, by itself, at any firm. You need more than that.

[09042014]

Having similar concerns :/ Top 10% at CCN and did about 10 screeners over the past few weeks and only have 1 CB along with a schlew of dings. Getting worried that I'm really THAT bad at interviewing.

Edit: I mean, I guess this should be expected and everyone gets lots of rejections. Just something to get used to.

You should probably be more worried than OP. Top 10% at CCN should be you a lot of callbacks on grades + not smelling of cat pee. You might be actively dinging yourself.

What is your interview pitch.

[Anonymous User]

Should not have wasted so many for California regardless of your ties, New York is a safer bet.

[Foghornleghorn]

I also have a solid "pitch"

Your call back to interview ratio suggests otherwise.

[Nomo]

Should not have wasted so many for California regardless of your ties, New York is a safer bet.

Obviously having the right resume and putting together decent interviews is important. But bidding on firms with big classes in the city where you have the best shot at getting a job is important too. Top 1/3 at lower T14 probably isn't getting you to CA without ties. Getting to DC even with ties isn't guaranteed. Bidding heavily on secondary markets like Seattle, Boston, Minneapolis, and Denver can leave a top 10% student shut out.

That said, not everyone moves at New York speed. There is still time. But I would recommend that you start or restart your mass mailing campaign now. And I would recommend you find someone, anyone, who will give you honest feedback on a mock interview.

[Anonymous User]

I'm top 20% at GW, I (used to) generally interview well, and I'm having this problem too. A lot of my acquaintances are as well....maybe we're all awkward as fuck.

[wiz]

Having similar concerns :/ Top 10% at CCN and did about 10 screeners over the past few weeks and only have 1 CB along with a schlew of dings. Getting worried that I'm really THAT bad at interviewing.

Edit: I mean, I guess this should be expected and everyone gets lots of rejections. Just something to get used to.

You should probably be more worried than OP. Top 10% at CCN should be you a lot of callbacks on grades + not smelling of cat pee. You might be actively dinging yourself.

What is your interview pitch.

"I would like to work at S&C. Here is my transcript."

[Anonymous User]

Having similar concerns :/ Top 10% at CCN and did about 10 screeners over the past few weeks and only have 1 CB along with a schlew of dings. Getting worried that I'm really THAT bad at interviewing.

Edit: I mean, I guess this should be expected and everyone gets lots of rejections. Just something to get used to.

You should probably be more worried than OP. Top 10% at CCN should be you a lot of callbacks on grades + not smelling of cat pee. You might be actively dinging yourself.

What is your interview pitch.

"I would like to work at S&C. Here is my transcript."

Yea I'm not really even sure what you mean. I mean, my pitch is that I want to live in your city doing what you do, and my background exemplifies it in this way. Should I have something more?

[Nelson]

.

[Anonymous User]

I'm top 20% at GW, I (used to) generally interview well, and I'm having this problem too. A lot of my acquaintances are as well....maybe we're all awkward as fuck.

I'm top 10% at USC/UCLA and many top students have 1, maybe 2 callbacks. Some even have 0. Idk if it's the cycle or what, but this seems to be a brutal OCI.

[oblig.lawl.ref]

Because your grades are nothing special, you're KJD, and you bid California.

Basically this. IDK how much K-JD matters but grades are not crazy good and California is still, despite what some say, not the easiest market.

Also I think part of the problem may be that you think you have a great "pitch." I've been preaching the gospel of being normal, not selling too hard, and just trying to have a natural conversation. Essentially the opposite of a "pitch." I think a pitch can be destructive.

Also there is no statistically possible issue here. There are no statistics in OCI. It's not law school/college admissions. It's based on whether people want to work with you and your pitch may be hurting you in that regard.

[Anonymous User]

I'm top 20% at GW, I (used to) generally interview well, and I'm having this problem too. A lot of my acquaintances are as well....maybe we're all awkward as fuck.

I'm top 10% at USC/UCLA and many top students have 1, maybe 2 callbacks. Some even have 0. Idk if it's the cycle or what, but this seems to be a brutal OCI.

Are there reasons this would be a brutal OCI? I can think of some....curious what other might think.

[oblig.lawl.ref]

I'm top 20% at GW, I (used to) generally interview well, and I'm having this problem too. A lot of my acquaintances are as well....maybe we're all awkward as fuck.

I'm top 10% at USC/UCLA and many top students have 1, maybe 2 callbacks. Some even have 0. Idk if it's the cycle or what, but this seems to be a brutal OCI.

Guys--I got zero callbacks out of like 21 screeners last year. I had decently better grades than OP at a similar school. You still have to interview like a normal person! This happens EVERY cycle and a bunch of 2ls (like me last year) are like: how is this possible!? It totally is.