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Post by Connor Benz » Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:51 am

What does it mean when an employer picks you for an interview, but you do not meet their hiring criteria? Do you honestly have a chance at getting hired versus others who do meet their hiring criteria who they are interviewing?

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Re: OCI Question

Post by kalvano » Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:57 am

Lottery or pre-select?

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Post by Connor Benz » Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:58 am

pre-select

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Post by kalvano » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:03 pm

Then it means yes, you have a chance. They looked at your info and still offered you an interview.

Why, are you going to turn it down if someone on an Internet forum says you have no chance?

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Re: OCI Question

Post by Connor Benz » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:09 pm

I'm not, I just thought it was odd. They were asking for top 10%, journal or law review. I have none of that haha

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Post by Pikappraider » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:24 pm

Connor Benz wrote:I'm not, I just thought it was odd. They were asking for top 10%, journal or law review. I have none of that haha
those are generic and apply only to the very worst schools they will get applications from. A firm that only takes like top 5 people + Law Review from TTTT will take like Median at a t-14. Don't let those things scare you off from applying, if they preselected you you have a shot. One of my good friends is a second year associate at a v100 whose requirements on simplicity are "top 10% + mootcourt and/or Law Review." He was bottom 15% at Columbia

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Re: OCI Question

Post by Connor Benz » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:55 pm

Does anybody know how many people do firms "call back" from the on-campus interview?

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Connor Benz wrote:Does anybody know how many people do firms "call back" from the on-campus interview?
It really varies depending on the school, the firm, and the number of interview slots

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Post by ResIpsa21 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:12 pm

Connor Benz wrote:Does anybody know how many people do firms "call back" from the on-campus interview?
Screener-to-CB ratio and CB-to-Offer ratio depend entirely on the firm. There's no hard and fast rule. The Screener-to-CB ratio could range from ~10% to ~50% depending on firm and school. Theoretically, if all twenty interviewees in a particular schedule were total duds, there could be zero callbacks (unlikely, but possible). Some factors that may affect the Screener-to-CB ratio:
  1. - how many callbacks in total the firm is willing to do (given that fewer callbacks means fewer wasted billable hours by the interviewing attorneys).
  • - the firm's expected CB-to-Offer ratio (considering how many total offers need to be extended to fill the target size of the summer class).
  • - how much stock the firm puts in the screener (at some firms, a screener is just bozo elimination; at others, it is an important substantive interview).
  • - the target size of the summer class (self-explanatory).
  • - the actual quality of the candidates, based on both credentials and interviewing skill (self-explanatory).

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Re: OCI Question

Post by Connor Benz » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:53 pm

I also have another question. Would it be a mistake to tell the interviewer for the firm that you are interested in clerking after law school?

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Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:58 pm

I assume you're not T-14. It depends on the firm, if you're talking about the top litigation firms, no it's not a mistake to say you're considering clerking. If you're looking a lower tier firms that don't have big litigation practices, they might not be so excited about your clerking ambitions.

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Re: OCI Question

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:49 pm

Pikappraider wrote:
Connor Benz wrote:I'm not, I just thought it was odd. They were asking for top 10%, journal or law review. I have none of that haha
those are generic and apply only to the very worst schools they will get applications from. A firm that only takes like top 5 people + Law Review from TTTT will take like Median at a t-14. Don't let those things scare you off from applying, if they preselected you you have a shot. One of my good friends is a second year associate at a v100 whose requirements on simplicity are "top 10% + mootcourt and/or Law Review." He was bottom 15% at Columbia
that's funny; the same thing happened at uchicago.

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