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Cb ---> Offer

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:32 am

Just had a CB today with a V30 firm. They said I was one of the first to do a CB with them. Do you think it will take longer to potentially receive an offer since my CB was so early?

Lower T-14, Median, Non-NYC firm

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

Post by KidStuddi » Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:58 am

Wouldn't be unheard of. I went several weeks after a July CB before an offer was extended.
Would be a perfectly reasonable question to ask your recruiting contact if you want a less speculative answer.

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

Post by 2014 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:12 am

It's pretty firm dependent and tied to when the recruiting committee meets. When OCI season heats up they often meet multiple times a week, this early it might be every other week or every 3 weeks or something. It's possible that you did your CB right before their meeting and could hear back soon, it's also possible you did your CB the day of their meeting and will have to wait the maximum time. No way to say other than it will probably be marginally longer now than it would be for someone in August.

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

Post by Lacepiece23 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:11 am

Anonymous User wrote:Just had a CB today with a V30 firm. They said I was one of the first to do a CB with them. Do you think it will take longer to potentially receive an offer since my CB was so early?

Lower T-14, Median, Non-NYC firm
If the non NYC market is a secondary market it could take months if the firm feels like you aren't a candidate that they must have. Say the firm only has 8 spots. They interview you. Then they have to interview everyone from the local schools. Then they might interview some more T14s via resume drop and mass mail. In these situations the firm doesn't want to extend the offer too early because they might miss better talent down the road.

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

Post by daleearnhardt123 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:48 am

KidStuddi wrote:Wouldn't be unheard of. I went several weeks after a July CB before an offer was extended.
Would be a perfectly reasonable question to ask your recruiting contact if you want a less speculative answer.
Just my .02 but there's never a reason to ask about when you'll hear an answer. Maybe do this if you haven't heard either way by October and OCIs are clearly over. There's absolutely nothing to be gained from letting them know you want to know quickly, and I've heard of people who it puts off. Especially if done in the wrong way.

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

Post by baal hadad » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:33 am

Stop reading tea leaves

Get to mass mailing

Maybe follow up in a couple weeks to reiterate interest

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

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daleearnhardt123 wrote:
KidStuddi wrote:Wouldn't be unheard of. I went several weeks after a July CB before an offer was extended.
Would be a perfectly reasonable question to ask your recruiting contact if you want a less speculative answer.
Just my .02 but there's never a reason to ask about when you'll hear an answer. Maybe do this if you haven't heard either way by October and OCIs are clearly over. There's absolutely nothing to be gained from letting them know you want to know quickly, and I've heard of people who it puts off. Especially if done in the wrong way.
What? No, it's a completely reasonable question, and at the v10 I got offered from this summer they proactively let me know at the end of my callback. Obviously don't nag them or anything, but if gone about in a professional manner there's no reason they should respond negatively.

Also, to answer OP's question, it can depend on a lot of factors but as a data point I received an offer the day after my callback, even this early in the process.

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:15 am

OP here, it is a major market (think Dallas,Chicago,LA). Thanks all for the advice, I am hoping that their committee meets sooner than later. It would be very nice to move towards OCI with an offer in hand.

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

Post by goldeneye » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:34 am

Anonymous User wrote:Just had a CB today with a V30 firm. They said I was one of the first to do a CB with them. Do you think it will take longer to potentially receive an offer since my CB was so early?

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Probably longer. V29 firms take a day or two. Anything above that is a week minimum.

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

Post by 09042014 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:38 am

My V38 says this to candidates we think are okay, but will only offer if the cream turns us down.

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

Post by daleearnhardt123 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:43 am

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daleearnhardt123 wrote:
KidStuddi wrote:Wouldn't be unheard of. I went several weeks after a July CB before an offer was extended.
Would be a perfectly reasonable question to ask your recruiting contact if you want a less speculative answer.
Just my .02 but there's never a reason to ask about when you'll hear an answer. Maybe do this if you haven't heard either way by October and OCIs are clearly over. There's absolutely nothing to be gained from letting them know you want to know quickly, and I've heard of people who it puts off. Especially if done in the wrong way.
What? No, it's a completely reasonable question, and at the v10 I got offered from this summer they proactively let me know at the end of my callback. Obviously don't nag them or anything, but if gone about in a professional manner there's no reason they should respond negatively.

Also, to answer OP's question, it can depend on a lot of factors but as a data point I received an offer the day after my callback, even this early in the process.

Take this extremely anecdotal and clearly context dependent advice at your own risk. There's no harm at all in being patient.

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

Post by moonman157 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:50 am

I think asking for a timeline at the end of a CB is incredibly reasonable. One firm told me they were hoping to make a decision within a week, another said at least a month. Don't bug them constantly, but they understand that this is a crazy time for you as it is for them, and having a sense of a timeline is extremely helpful.

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

Post by baal hadad » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:03 pm

moonman157 wrote:I think asking for a timeline at the end of a CB is incredibly reasonable. One firm told me they were hoping to make a decision within a week, another said at least a month. Don't bug them constantly, but they understand that this is a crazy time for you as it is for them, and having a sense of a timeline is extremely helpful.
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Re: Cb ---> Offer

Post by goldeneye » Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:44 pm

baal hadad wrote:
moonman157 wrote:I think asking for a timeline at the end of a CB is incredibly reasonable. One firm told me they were hoping to make a decision within a week, another said at least a month. Don't bug them constantly, but they understand that this is a crazy time for you as it is for them, and having a sense of a timeline is extremely helpful.
Those timelines usually don't mean shit
Depends on the vault ranking and/or chambers band.

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

Post by baal hadad » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:00 pm

goldeneye wrote:
baal hadad wrote:
moonman157 wrote:I think asking for a timeline at the end of a CB is incredibly reasonable. One firm told me they were hoping to make a decision within a week, another said at least a month. Don't bug them constantly, but they understand that this is a crazy time for you as it is for them, and having a sense of a timeline is extremely helpful.
Those timelines usually don't mean shit
Depends on the vault ranking and/or chambers band.
I heard that for mere nlj250 firms it can take like 2 months and you should just assume the recruiters are lying to you ab everything

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

Post by moonman157 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:03 pm

FWIW the V50 firms said a week or two, the NL250 firm said at least a month

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

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daleearnhardt123 wrote:
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daleearnhardt123 wrote:
KidStuddi wrote:Wouldn't be unheard of. I went several weeks after a July CB before an offer was extended.
Would be a perfectly reasonable question to ask your recruiting contact if you want a less speculative answer.
Just my .02 but there's never a reason to ask about when you'll hear an answer. Maybe do this if you haven't heard either way by October and OCIs are clearly over. There's absolutely nothing to be gained from letting them know you want to know quickly, and I've heard of people who it puts off. Especially if done in the wrong way.
What? No, it's a completely reasonable question, and at the v10 I got offered from this summer they proactively let me know at the end of my callback. Obviously don't nag them or anything, but if gone about in a professional manner there's no reason they should respond negatively.

Also, to answer OP's question, it can depend on a lot of factors but as a data point I received an offer the day after my callback, even this early in the process.

Take this extremely anecdotal and clearly context dependent advice at your own risk. There's no harm at all in being patient.
As opposed to your non-anecdotal "I've heard of people who it puts off"?

OP, you should ignore this poster and listen to the above anon. I've already had V20 CBs this summer and literally every recruiter told me at the end the timeline that I'd hear within. Keep it professional, but there's absolutely no reason to wait until "October" when your other offers have probably expired to ask what the waiting time is.

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

Post by goldeneye » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:49 pm

moonman157 wrote:FWIW the V50 firms said a week or two, the NL250 firm said at least a month
This can't be right. I interviewed with a V51 and they said 2 months.

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

Post by daleearnhardt123 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:52 pm

The above anon - response is like a big game of "spot the unfounded assumption"

I'll give it a shot.

1. Because I'm a rising 2L and have interviewed with V20 firms, I know what Im talking about (query whether or not above anon even has an offer. Wouldn't he have mentioned that? If he doesn't have an offer, how does he know anything he's saying is valid?)
2. Because recruiters at the end of my callbacks have conveyed the absolutely meaningless articulation of their "timeline" to me, that must mean it's ALSO ok to follow up with them later and ask when I'll hear.
3. OP should not listen to advice that suggests caution. Rather, he should let impatience take control for the express purpose of knowing something sooner than he would have otherwise known. Consequences be damned. By the way OP, I'm a rising 2L, and I'm 100% certain there can't be consequences

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

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daleearnhardt123 wrote:The above anon - response is like a big game of "spot the unfounded assumption"

I'll give it a shot.

1. Because I'm a rising 2L and have interviewed with V20 firms, I know what Im talking about (query whether or not above anon even has an offer. Wouldn't he have mentioned that? If he doesn't have an offer, how does he know anything he's saying is valid?)
2. Because recruiters at the end of my callbacks have conveyed the absolutely meaningless articulation of their "timeline" to me, that must mean it's ALSO ok to follow up with them later and ask when I'll hear.
3. OP should not listen to advice that suggests caution. Rather, he should let impatience take control for the express purpose of knowing something sooner than he would have otherwise known. Consequences be damned. By the way OP, I'm a rising 2L, and I'm 100% certain there can't be consequences
I'm the above anon and have 2 V20 offers already, not that it's any of your damn business or related in any way to the immediate discussion. How many do you have?

Also, why do you think reaching out to find timelines is risky? It's not like we're telling OP to demand a decision.

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

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daleearnhardt123 wrote:The above anon - response is like a big game of "spot the unfounded assumption"

I'll give it a shot.

1. Because I'm a rising 2L and have interviewed with V20 firms, I know what Im talking about (query whether or not above anon even has an offer. Wouldn't he have mentioned that? If he doesn't have an offer, how does he know anything he's saying is valid?)
2. Because recruiters at the end of my callbacks have conveyed the absolutely meaningless articulation of their "timeline" to me, that must mean it's ALSO ok to follow up with them later and ask when I'll hear.
3. OP should not listen to advice that suggests caution. Rather, he should let impatience take control for the express purpose of knowing something sooner than he would have otherwise known. Consequences be damned. By the way OP, I'm a rising 2L, and I'm 100% certain there can't be consequences
I'm the above anon and have 2 V20 offers already, not that it's any of your damn business or related in any way to the immediate discussion. How many do you have?

Also, why do you think reaching out to find timelines is risky? It's not like we're telling OP to demand a decision.
(Knows having v20 offers doesn't matter to the discussion)

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

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baal hadad wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
daleearnhardt123 wrote:The above anon - response is like a big game of "spot the unfounded assumption"

I'll give it a shot.

1. Because I'm a rising 2L and have interviewed with V20 firms, I know what Im talking about (query whether or not above anon even has an offer. Wouldn't he have mentioned that? If he doesn't have an offer, how does he know anything he's saying is valid?)
2. Because recruiters at the end of my callbacks have conveyed the absolutely meaningless articulation of their "timeline" to me, that must mean it's ALSO ok to follow up with them later and ask when I'll hear.
3. OP should not listen to advice that suggests caution. Rather, he should let impatience take control for the express purpose of knowing something sooner than he would have otherwise known. Consequences be damned. By the way OP, I'm a rising 2L, and I'm 100% certain there can't be consequences
I'm the above anon and have 2 V20 offers already, not that it's any of your damn business or related in any way to the immediate discussion. How many do you have?

Also, why do you think reaching out to find timelines is risky? It's not like we're telling OP to demand a decision.
(Knows having v20 offers doesn't matter to the discussion)

(Mentions them anyway)
I'm the anon who had v10 above. Understood that caution is great and all, but quite frankly HR and recruiting exists for a reason. If you ask in a professional manner about an expected timeline to decision, I have no clue why they would get "put off" and go so far as to run around, tell the hiring partners, and lobby to have your offer revoked. Do you have any idea how crazy that sounds.

And the v20 offer thing may not be particularly relevant, but between him and I we have 3 of the 20 covered so that's a somewhat decent sample size. But hey OP could listen to your illogical fear mongering instead.

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

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baal hadad wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
daleearnhardt123 wrote:The above anon - response is like a big game of "spot the unfounded assumption"

I'll give it a shot.

1. Because I'm a rising 2L and have interviewed with V20 firms, I know what Im talking about (query whether or not above anon even has an offer. Wouldn't he have mentioned that? If he doesn't have an offer, how does he know anything he's saying is valid?)
2. Because recruiters at the end of my callbacks have conveyed the absolutely meaningless articulation of their "timeline" to me, that must mean it's ALSO ok to follow up with them later and ask when I'll hear.
3. OP should not listen to advice that suggests caution. Rather, he should let impatience take control for the express purpose of knowing something sooner than he would have otherwise known. Consequences be damned. By the way OP, I'm a rising 2L, and I'm 100% certain there can't be consequences
I'm the above anon and have 2 V20 offers already, not that it's any of your damn business or related in any way to the immediate discussion. How many do you have?

Also, why do you think reaching out to find timelines is risky? It's not like we're telling OP to demand a decision.
(Knows having v20 offers doesn't matter to the discussion)

(Mentions them anyway)
(Adds nothing to an on-topic conversation and instead sarcastically responds with nlj nonsense)

(Continues doing so)

OP, just ask the recruiter (politely). Unfortunately when you come to TLS and post in the on-topics you occasionally run into worthless posters like this one, but such is life.

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:52 pm

OP here, thank you all for the help.

Some of you in this thread are acting like babies. TLS doesn't need these shenanigans, keep it pure.

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Re: Cb ---> Offer

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:39 pm

I interviewed with six firms this past winter for 1L SAs. A V10, V20, 2 V50s, 1 V100 and 1 NLJ 250 (just using the rankings to illustrate that the firms were all different sizes and "prestige" levels). I asked each of them at the end of the interview when I'd be hearing back/what the next steps were. They all responded politely and answered the question to the best of their ability. I had 3 different offers and withdrew 1 before a decision was made, so it clearly didn't hurt me in any significant way. It's perfectly fine to ask politely about the timeline as long as you feel comfortable doing so. If you don't, then don't do it. But if you're curious, it won't hurt to ask in a professional manner. Just another anecdote for OP.

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