Reference from 2L firm for 3L hunt Forum

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:03 am

Hi TLS,

I'm currently working as a summer associate at a V20 firm, but I want to switch markets to NY/DC. My only question is, do I need a reference from my current firm? If so, am I supposed to eventually ask the hiring partner? Or who do I ask? (Of course, I'm assuming I'll ask after I get an offer.)

dead head · Post by **dead head** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:40 am

Ask for a reference and your firm is going to know you want to bail on them. Nobody will ask you for references, and it's possible that if you give a reference the firm you're interviewing with will think you were cold-offered and your SA firm is trying to offload you.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:15 am

OP here. Thanks for the advice. Would it be useful for me to ask an associate for a reference? (Assuming that associate can keep my job search a secret?)

Anyone else?

guano · Post by **guano** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:16 am

Anonymous User wrote:OP here. Thanks for the advice. Would it be useful for me to ask an associate for a reference? (Assuming that associate can keep my job search a secret?)

Anyone else?

Great way to ignore good advice. Why don't you wait until it's necessary? (i.e. when/if a 3L firm asks for a reference)

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:04 pm

guano wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:OP here. Thanks for the advice. Would it be useful for me to ask an associate for a reference? (Assuming that associate can keep my job search a secret?)

Anyone else?
Great way to ignore good advice. Why don't you wait until it's necessary? (i.e. when/if a 3L firm asks for a reference)

OP here -- not ignoring advice. Some firms ask for reference as part of the application. I'm simply wondering if--after I get the 2L firm offer--it's better to ask a reference from an associate or a partner. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

Pokemon · Post by **Pokemon** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:54 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
guano wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:OP here. Thanks for the advice. Would it be useful for me to ask an associate for a reference? (Assuming that associate can keep my job search a secret?)

Anyone else?
Great way to ignore good advice. Why don't you wait until it's necessary? (i.e. when/if a 3L firm asks for a reference)
OP here -- not ignoring advice. Some firms ask for reference as part of the application. I'm simply wondering if--after I get the 2L firm offer--it's better to ask a reference from an associate or a partner. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

I have not seen a single biglaw firm ask for references... I mean if you want to shoot yourself in the foot for no reason, by no means go ahead.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 4:54 pm

Covington & Burling

Pokemon · Post by **Pokemon** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 4:58 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Covington & Burling

I guess then if your dream is to work at Covington, you should ask for a recommendation. Most other firms do not seem to care though.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:03 pm

OP here -- No that's right... I know that

OutCold · Post by **OutCold** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:12 pm

Coming from someone who was successful during 3L recruiting, it would bad idea to ask someone at your firm for a reference. If your dream is to work for Covington, you should be getting references from 1L summer/professors/etc. I very much doubt they expect you to have a reference from your 2L firm given the sensitive nature of switching firms.

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