should I be mass mailing? Forum

zoomzoom88 · Post by **zoomzoom88** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:33 pm

currently at TT school, possibly transferring to a new york school. I have a 3.8 and made law review. should i be mass mailing, or waiting for OCI? I do not want to get caught behind. any advice would be greatly appreciated.

piccolittle · Post by **piccolittle** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:35 pm

zoomzoom88 wrote:should i be mass mailing?

Yes.

brotherdarkness · Post by **brotherdarkness** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:36 pm

ymmv · Post by **ymmv** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:38 pm

zoomzoom88 wrote:currently at TT school, possibly transferring to a new york school. I have a 3.8 and made law review. should i be mass mailing, or waiting for OCI? I do not want to get caught behind. any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Advice I have gotten is no earlier than mid July. I'll probably send mine around the last week of July (2 weeks before OCI), other than Quinn which should be sent now.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:46 pm

and this is just resume and cover letter? should I include transcripts? is email preferred or hard copy?

brotherdarkness · Post by **brotherdarkness** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:48 pm

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:56 pm

When should 3L start massmailing?

ymmv · Post by **ymmv** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:58 pm

Anonymous User wrote:When should 3L start massmailing?

Why did they ever stop?

Kikero · Post by **Kikero** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:30 pm

ymmv wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:When should 3L start massmailing?
Why did they ever stop?

Probably to read tea leaves. Classic mistake.

Hipster but Athletic · Post by **Hipster but Athletic** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:33 pm

Kikero wrote:
ymmv wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:When should 3L start massmailing?
Why did they ever stop?
Probably to read tea leaves. Classic mistake.

Mid July is actually start of hiring season so I don't really get this

ymmv · Post by **ymmv** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:28 am

Hipster but Athletic wrote:
Kikero wrote:
ymmv wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:When should 3L start massmailing?
Why did they ever stop?
Probably to read tea leaves. Classic mistake.
Mid July is actually start of hiring season so I don't really get this

If you are an unemployed 3L then "hiring season" is pretty meaningless. You're probably only going to get a job if someone gets fired or quits, which could be any time, and mailing is more or less luck of the draw on timing.

If I find myself with no offer post-OCI I don't plan to stop mailing until they throw me in debtor's prison.

WheatThins · Post by **WheatThins** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:54 am

brotherdarkness wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:and this is just resume and cover letter? should I include transcripts? is email preferred or hard copy?
Body of email is cover letter. Attach résumé and transcript. PDF. No hard copies.

Should this be the standard cover letter that we use for OCI interviews that asks us to upload cover letters to the site?

Or something shorter?

Nebby · Post by **Nebby** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:07 am

OP, I would start getting your mass-mailing stuff together. I assume you'll hear back from NYU and CLS by mid-July. I would wait until then so you can update your resume with whatever school you're transferring to.

Cicero76 · Post by **Cicero76** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:12 am

Mid to late July seems to be TCR, but I'm going to probably start in the second week of July FWIW. But that's mostly because I'm mass mailing a secondary market that I'll be available to interview in during summer but it would be harder to get back to in August. Might be different for a city like NY or DC

KD35 · Post by **KD35** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:18 am

Cicero76 wrote:Mid to late July seems to be TCR, but I'm going to probably start in the second week of July FWIW. But that's mostly because I'm mass mailing a secondary market that I'll be available to interview in during summer but it would be harder to get back to in August. Might be different for a city like NY or DC

I think I'm sending out 2nd week of July for some major markets. But I'm also doing rolling mass mailing apps, so that will be my "top choice" of firms, and then slowly sending out more to other firms later on.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:46 am

anyone know if theres a way to pull emails on the NALP mail merge?

Hipster but Athletic · Post by **Hipster but Athletic** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:26 pm

We really should create a TLS mail mergable db/spreadsheet.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:00 pm

Anonymous User wrote:anyone know if theres a way to pull emails on the NALP mail merge?

Just copy and paste by hand.

Hipster but Athletic wrote:We really should create a TLS mail mergable db/spreadsheet.

Do you really want to make it extremely easy for all the lazy people to get email addresses and contact info for all the firms that you mass mail to? I know that sounds douchy, but putting the effort in to mail every firm gives you an advantage over other people - and more likely to convert that into a job.

Ohiobumpkin · Post by **Ohiobumpkin** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:23 pm

Potentially stupid question, but related to topic of this thread.

Does the advice in this thread about starting mass mailing in mid-late July apply if you are applying to small to mid sized law firms in a secondary market, or only apply to large law firms?

The reason I ask is because when I was looking for law firm employment for my 2L summer, a number of small and mid sized law firms essentially told me that they won't even look at applications earlier than January of the year the applicant would start. Sorry for run-on sentence.

KD35 · Post by **KD35** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:17 pm

Ohiobumpkin wrote:Potentially stupid question, but related to topic of this thread.

Does the advice in this thread about starting mass mailing in mid-late July apply if you are applying to small to mid sized law firms in a secondary market, or only apply to large law firms?

The reason I ask is because when I was looking for law firm employment for my 2L summer, a number of small and mid sized law firms essentially told me that they won't even look at applications earlier than January of the year the applicant would start. Sorry for run-on sentence.

Well I think the right move would be to apply to all firms you are mass mailing at the same time and stick with the July-August timeline unless a firm says otherwise online or to you personally.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:01 pm

Does the advice of mass mailing in July apply to a rising 3L with likely offer but desiring to switch markets?

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