HLS EIP 2014 Forum

[Anonymous User]

4 H/1 DS/ 5 Ps/average interviewer/no WE/resume looks very PI.

DC
23 Interviews
1 CB
1 Offer

DC is tough.

[Anonymous User]

- 2 Hs, 8 Ps
- K-JD but significant and impressive full time consulting, accounting, and finance work during UG and started two companies
- Targeted NY.
- Leadership roles on three extracurriculars during 1L, plus 3 non-leadership positions.
- Fairly strong interviewer (interviewed for consulting, accounting, and finance industries before applying to law school)

28 screeners, 14 callbacks offered, 6 callbacks accepted, 4 offers.

1 offer was a firm that doesn't even rank in the V100. 1 was V10. The rest were V40 (not that that's a thing).

[Anonymous User]

- 6H/2DS
- non-prestigious but interesting WE.
- secondary journal experience, but not a leadership role.

14 screeners, 7 callbacks, 2 offers in DC.

As has been mentioned by numerous posters, DC is tough.

[Anonymous User]

- 6H/2DS
- non-prestigious but interesting WE.
- secondary journal experience, but not a leadership role.

14 screeners, 7 callbacks, 2 offers in DC.

As has been mentioned by numerous posters, DC is tough.

You took a risk by only doing 14 screeners though.

[Anonymous User]

-4H
-Average WE
-Bad interviewer
-24 NY firms + 3 CA firms
-27 screeners, 3 callbacks offered and accepted, 1 offer

In addition, I had a callback (skipped screener) through the Fall Interview Program, and 2 screeners for NY firms through the Resume Book Program.

[Anonymous User]

7H/3P, K->JD

27 interviews -- mainly DC / 3 NY / 6 Secondary

8 DC cb offered, 7 accepted --> 4 DC offers
3 NY cb offered, 2 accepted --> NY v5 & v20 offers
Cleaned up secondary callbacks but didn't accept any.

Accepted at one of the top native DC firms. Warning: DC native firms really are as tough as everyone says on here, so beware.

[Anonymous User]

also posting to show that grades aren't everything (or even a hugely significant factor, especially for NY)

3H/7P
market: NYC, a couple SV/SF

K-JD, but with undergrad internships of the finance/consulting variety
pretty strong interviewer
several leadership positions in extracurriculars

25 screeners, 15 callbacks, 7 callbacks accepted, 6 offers (2 V10, 3 V25)

[Anonymous User]

1H/9Ps H was in elective. Some work experience but not legal. Engaging interviewer.

New York: 14 Screeners, 5 Callbacks, 4 Accepted, 4 Offers (two were V10)
Boston: 14 Screeners, 8 Callbacks, 7 Accepted, 4 Offers, (withdrew from two before hearing back)

I'm grateful to have had so many options. I think the best advice I can give would be to tell a story about your background that makes it seem like law was inevitable (because you think like a lawyer) and have that story answer the questions that the interviewer naturally has (ability to work long hours, interest in analysis, preference for being part of a team, etc.)

[Anonymous User]

1 DS, 8H, 1P.
All in on DC.
Prestigious but hardly rare w/e.
Good interviewer.
No HLR.

20 Screeners --> 18 CBs --> did 8 CBs --> 7 offers

In addition to grades, compelling DC story and compelling litigation story were the dealmakers I think.

[Anonymous User]

K-JD
4 H
6 P
Great interviewer

DC
22 Screeners
8 CBs
4 CBAs
3 Offers

It's all about strategic bidding and interview skills. Interviews make up for grades at many firms.

[Anonymous User]

9H/1DS. K-JD. Decent, not great interviewer. Narrow practice area interest. No significant extracurriculars.

NYC: 3 screeners -> 1 CB offered -> didn't take it
Boston: 6 screeners -> 3 CBs offered -> did 2 CBs -> 2 offers
DC: 11 screeners -> 7 CBs -> did 5 CBs -> 5 offers
Other: 2 screeners -> 2 CBs -> did one -> one offer

[Anonymous User]

Posting to show grades aren't everything
2H/8P, K-JD, above average interviewer
No full time W.E., but some relevant transactional work
30+ Screeners
20 Callbacks
10 Accepted Callbacks
10 Offers (3 V10)(5 V25)(2 V50)

[Anonymous User]

These anonymous samples are biased toward people who did well. Most people who didn't are likely remaining quiet. 2H getting 20 CBs is a huge anomaly.

[Anonymous User]

These anonymous samples are biased toward people who did well. Most people who didn't are likely remaining quiet. 2H getting 20 CBs is a huge anomaly.

I'm one of the posters above and I absolutely think this is true. Friends with 5+ Hs only getting one or two offers. (Yes, they went all in on DC.)

[TripTrip]

These anonymous samples are biased toward people who did well. Most people who didn't are likely remaining quiet.

True, but "doing poorly" at Harvard often just means one biglaw offer. That's not really doing poorly - you still have a job.

I don't know of anyone who participated in EIP who has not gotten at least one offer. I'm sure they exist, but I don't know of them.

[Single-Malt-Liquor]

These anonymous samples are biased toward people who did well. Most people who didn't are likely remaining quiet.

True, but "doing poorly" at Harvard often just means one biglaw offer. That's not really doing poorly - you still have a job.

I don't know of anyone who participated in EIP who has not gotten at least one offer. I'm sure they exist, but I don't know of them.

And I dont think the point of posting after the fact is to have some sort of scientific sample. With all the freaking out that goes on here, I think it's good to have some anecdotes for next year's rising 2Ls. Especially for those at median or below.

Edit: I actually think its good for those with 6+ Hs as well: Bid DC exclusively at your own peril

[Anonymous User]

Posting for posterity/helping future students.

3 H/7 P.
30 interviews.
8 callbacks.
7 accepted.
7 offers.

So a perfect callback-offer ratio. But did way worse during the screener phase. Seems to imply that grades matter a lot more early on than during callbacks. Ended up at a V20.

[Anonymous User]

3P/5H/2DS, bid on DC, Boston, and a secondary.
14 screeners, 3 CBs, 1 offer (accepted before I heard back from other two CBs), no love from DC.

[Anonymous User]

There's no EIP 2015 thread yet so I'll ask here:

For those of you who had LPs, are you still considered "median" if you otherwise have 3-4Hs? Or would you need a DS to offset an LP?

That is, 3H/7P is considered median but 3H/6P/1LP would be considered below? That what it seems to me, but I don't know if employers think of it that way. I know they don't bother calculating your GPA down to a 3.1 or whatever but once they count your transcript for Hs, do they also adjust you down for LPs?

[Anonymous User]

this EIP orientation thing -- compulsory? completely useless? can i skip it and just go straight to EIP?

[Single-Malt-Liquor]

There's no EIP 2015 thread yet so I'll ask here:

For those of you who had LPs, are you still considered "median" if you otherwise have 3-4Hs? Or would you need a DS to offset an LP?

That is, 3H/7P is considered median but 3H/6P/1LP would be considered below? That what it seems to me, but I don't know if employers think of it that way. I know they don't bother calculating your GPA down to a 3.1 or whatever but once they count your transcript for Hs, do they also adjust you down for LPs?

LPs are typically only problematic for thos with two or fewer Hs and for those going for the most selective firms.

Read through the threads for the last few years, I found them super helpful in forming a bid strategy.

But don't worry about any of this stuff until like July. Life is too short, grades are too unpredictable, and beer has a limited shelf life.

this EIP orientation thing -- compulsory? completely useless? can i skip it and just go straight to EIP?

If you have work/interviewing experience then its completely unnecessary. If you do not, then it's probably unnecessary.

[Anonymous User]

this EIP orientation thing -- compulsory? completely useless? can i skip it and just go straight to EIP?

If you have work/interviewing experience then its completely unnecessary. If you do not, then it's probably unnecessary.

awesome! but what actually happens here? is it just a run-down of what happens/interview tips?

[Anonymous User]

Straight Ps. K-jd. Good interviewer.

29 screeners (NYC)
7 cbs (plus 3 others from my home state which wasn't well represented at EIP)
3 offers from 4 cbs (2 V50s & a V100)

I skipped the 3 other callbacks because I really liked the offers I had, although they were perfectly fine firms (a V50 and 2 V100s).

I know others with marginal grades or LPs who basically got what they wanted and had options.