SA — In • Out • ? Forum

iLaw · Post by **iLaw** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:12 am

Looking for a 2013 SA headcount on offered, no offered or still awaiting word.

If you are still awaiting word you can return and change your circumstance when you find out. Also, if you are still waiting, what is the timeline your firm has offered (if they did). Feel free to include comments about your SA adventure (including no offered).

delusional · Post by **delusional** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:02 pm

This has the potential to be really useful if people vote. I don't get why so few did.

Uncle.Joe · Post by **Uncle.Joe** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:16 pm

How would this be useful?

msridiculous447 · Post by **msridiculous447** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:23 pm

Read the title in Heidi Klum's voice.

09042014 · Post by **09042014** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:36 pm

SHIT: 26% of those who were told have been no offered. Holy shit, this is a melt down. I guess the Weil and Wilmer layoffs were the warning shots.

delusional · Post by **delusional** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:52 pm

Uncle.Joe wrote:How would this be useful?

It would be more immediate than the data that is going to be released next May, both in terms of time and because it is not filtered through whatever offices (i.e. recruiting, career services, and the compilers) help compile the official reports. It would have the potential to confirm or call into question the data that the big associations will release. It would likely offer the opportunity to put some relevant information together with the numbers, e.g. if 20 people were no offered and 5-6 of them chime in to explain the circumstances; or if people take the cue from the OP and discuss cold offers, etc.

jd-mba · Post by **jd-mba** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:03 pm

Could we clarify whether the no offers are 1Ls or 2Ls? At least for me, I'm only interested in whether 2Ls are being no offered... still pending here.

Quinn · Post by **Quinn** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:04 am

If a third are still waiting, then I am not alone.

JusticeHarlan · Post by **JusticeHarlan** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:21 am

Desert Fox wrote:SHIT: 26% of those who were told have been no offered. Holy shit, this is a melt down. I guess the Weil and Wilmer layoffs were the warning shots.

Dude, you're just assuming that all the offers responses are real "offers" and not cold offers. Could be much worse once you assume the normal cold offer distribution.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:42 am

JusticeHarlan wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:SHIT: 26% of those who were told have been no offered. Holy shit, this is a melt down. I guess the Weil and Wilmer layoffs were the warning shots.
Dude, you're just assuming that all the offers responses are real "offers" and not cold offers. Could be much worse once you assume the normal cold offer distribution.

Not sure if serious... but now curious what you think the normal cold offer distribution is

purpletiger · Post by **purpletiger** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:42 am

Desert Fox wrote:SHIT: 26% of those who were told have been no offered. Holy shit, this is a melt down. I guess the Weil and Wilmer layoffs were the warning shots.

You don't think there's a selection bias here?

09042014 · Post by **09042014** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:41 pm

JusticeHarlan wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:SHIT: 26% of those who were told have been no offered. Holy shit, this is a melt down. I guess the Weil and Wilmer layoffs were the warning shots.
Dude, you're just assuming that all the offers responses are real "offers" and not cold offers. Could be much worse once you assume the normal cold offer distribution.

Holy shit, I didn't even think of this. This is madness.

J. D. · Post by **J. D.** » Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:08 pm

28% unknown. Wouldn't this be considered high given it is mid-August?

jd-mba · Post by **jd-mba** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:51 pm

many schools are doing OCI this week and job fairs etc. have already happened (even though 3L spots are limited). it seems kind of crazy that this many people haven't received a decision about their offer status at this point.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:01 pm

jd-mba wrote:many schools are doing OCI this week and job fairs etc. have already happened (even though 3L spots are limited). it seems kind of crazy that this many people haven't received a decision about their offer status at this point.

I'm still waiting. As far as I know, all of the other summers through out offices in my state have heard. It kinda sucks to be the last one waiting. My positive side to this, however, is that I have four interviews next week with comparable biglaw firms. They also are not through OCI, which I'm hoping was a smart move.

I was told I'd hear by last Friday. Is this one of those wait until you either have an offer to accept or until it's September before checking in?

justonemoregame · Post by **justonemoregame** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:06 pm

0L, voted

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:01 pm

The number of no offers here seems shockingly high. A third?? What the fuck.

I get it with the self selection but still...

09042014 · Post by **09042014** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:06 pm

Anonymous User wrote:The number of no offers here seems shockingly high. A third?? What the fuck.

I get it with the self selection but still...

ITE is back with a vengeance. Nobody is even talking about how many firms aren't guaranteeing 160k in their offer letters.

Fed_Atty · Post by **Fed_Atty** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:17 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:The number of no offers here seems shockingly high. A third?? What the fuck.

I get it with the self selection but still...
ITE is back with a vengeance. Nobody is even talking about how many firms aren't guaranteeing 160k in their offer letters.

I tend to think that some voters are not being truthful.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:38 am

For those wondering why there are so many "still waiting," there are some groups that just haven't met. I know I spoke to an associate a few days ago who told me that they just haven't met yet, they are going to meet at the end of this week, and that I'll hear after that. It would have been nice to hear on the last day like some of the other satellite office's SAs, but better late than never!

Icculus · Post by **Icculus** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:55 am

Uncle.Joe wrote:How would this be useful?

This thread is not useful at all, and I am a real fan of what DF is doing here. The more useful thread is the 2013 SA Offer thread now that it has been modified to focus on firm and offer rate and is no longer a glorified circle jerk.

J. D. · Post by **J. D.** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:40 pm

I was hopeful that I could exit the waiting game today, BUT NOOO, pushed back until Friday. The hits just keep on comin’.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:46 pm

no offered last week. so at least one of those votes is real. fml.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:12 pm

Offered...But placed in a different office

09042014 · Post by **09042014** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:17 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Offered...But placed in a different office

dats cold.

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