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3.64 GPA female. Any realistic chance at V15? Or any chance at all?
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Where is Arbiter when you need him
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Not all V15s are created equal. The short answer is yes, but not all of them.
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Which ones?Lincoln wrote:Not all V15s are created equal. The short answer is yes, but not all of them.
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Seriously guys, look at the data. That's all we're doing.Anonymous User wrote:Which ones?Lincoln wrote:Not all V15s are created equal. The short answer is yes, but not all of them.
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I was hoping upperclassmen might anecdotally know that say DPW may be willing to dip a little lower than say Debevoise or ClearyArbiter213 wrote:Seriously guys, look at the data. That's all we're doing.Anonymous User wrote:Which ones?Lincoln wrote:Not all V15s are created equal. The short answer is yes, but not all of them.
Anonymous User wrote:Where is Arbiter when you need him
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Why would you want an anecdote when you literally have the data?Anonymous User wrote:I was hoping upperclassmen might anecdotally know that say DPW may be willing to dip a little lower than say Debevoise or ClearyArbiter213 wrote:Seriously guys, look at the data. That's all we're doing.Anonymous User wrote:Which ones?Lincoln wrote:Not all V15s are created equal. The short answer is yes, but not all of them.
Anonymous User wrote:Where is Arbiter when you need him
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The low scores in the data from Symplicity aren't that helpful. That person's dad might be the CEO of a client, come highly recommended from someone with caché at the firm, have a PhD in a hard science, or what have you. Pretty much every firm will go below their floor for the right person. But the averages give you a good idea of the firm's general grade-selectivity.Anonymous User wrote:I was hoping upperclassmen might anecdotally know that say DPW may be willing to dip a little lower than say Debevoise or ClearyArbiter213 wrote:Seriously guys, look at the data. That's all we're doing.Anonymous User wrote:Which ones?Lincoln wrote:Not all V15s are created equal. The short answer is yes, but not all of them.
Anonymous User wrote:Where is Arbiter when you need him
Anecdotally, Weil is probably the least grade-conscious V15, but after Monday's news, I'm not sure that's the most important data point. Cravath, DPW, and S&C are probably the most grade-conscious.
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S&C is definitely the most grade-conscious. Gibson also seem to be grades whores.Lincoln wrote:
The low scores in the data from Symplicity aren't that helpful. That person's dad might be the CEO of a client, come highly recommended from someone with caché at the firm, have a PhD in a hard science, or what have you. Pretty much every firm will go below their floor for the right person. But the averages give you a good idea of the firm's general grade-selectivity.
Anecdotally, Weil is probably the least grade-conscious V15, but after Monday's news, I'm not sure that's the most important data point. Cravath, DPW, and S&C are probably the most grade-conscious.
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Other than Weil?
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Not sure why you wouldn't just look at the data, not sure how useful anecdotal stories are going to be especially given that GPA policies changed a few years ago. I'd say Weil, Kirkland, and Latham are your best bets in the V15.
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Why specify female?
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GDC are definitely grade whores. They are rumored to be the only firm that will no-offer for 2L GPA drops.Arbiter213 wrote:S&C is definitely the most grade-conscious. Gibson also seem to be grades whores.Lincoln wrote:
The low scores in the data from Symplicity aren't that helpful. That person's dad might be the CEO of a client, come highly recommended from someone with caché at the firm, have a PhD in a hard science, or what have you. Pretty much every firm will go below their floor for the right person. But the averages give you a good idea of the firm's general grade-selectivity.
Anecdotally, Weil is probably the least grade-conscious V15, but after Monday's news, I'm not sure that's the most important data point. Cravath, DPW, and S&C are probably the most grade-conscious.
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Anonymous User wrote:Why specify female?
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She wants to know which firms have hiring partners who are sexist pigs who hire attractive women without looking at their resumes. Duh.mr.hands wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Why specify female?
The answer is all of them.
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More like, are females particularly underrepresented at any of those firms and I may have a better chance. I'll take the pig like hiring partners tooLincoln wrote:She wants to know which firms have hiring partners who are sexist pigs who hire attractive women without looking at their resumes. Duh.mr.hands wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Why specify female?
The answer is all of them.
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Had my meeting with Lyndsay Bullock so below is my bid list critique it! I originally had DPW and Clearly lower, but Lyndsay said based on my total package ( whatever that means) to put them as 1 and 2.
3.64 GPA
Monday:
1. Cleary (60/40)
2. Latham NY (38)
3. DPW
4. Sidley
5. Ropes
6. Cleary/DPW
7. MoFo
8. Paul Hastings
9. Shearman & Sterling
10. O’Melveny
11. Proskauer
12. Fried Frank
13. Cadwaladar
14. Hughes Hubbard
15. Wilkie Farr
Tuesday:
1. Weil
2. Paul Weiss
3. Jones Day
4. Debevoise
5. White & Case
6. WilmerHale Dc? Nyc?
7. WilmerHale DC? Nyc?
8. Akin Gump
9. Alston & Bird ( Atlanta)
10. Holland & Knight ( Miami)
11. hogan lovells
12. Goodwin
13. Morgan, Lewis
14. Cahill
15. Dechert
16. Reed Smith
Wednesday:
1. K & E
2. Linklaters
3. Milibank
4. Allen & Overy
5. Freshfields
6. King & Spalding
7. Vinson & Elkins
8. Greenburg
9. Pilsbury
3.64 GPA
Monday:
1. Cleary (60/40)
2. Latham NY (38)
3. DPW
4. Sidley
5. Ropes
6. Cleary/DPW
7. MoFo
8. Paul Hastings
9. Shearman & Sterling
10. O’Melveny
11. Proskauer
12. Fried Frank
13. Cadwaladar
14. Hughes Hubbard
15. Wilkie Farr
Tuesday:
1. Weil
2. Paul Weiss
3. Jones Day
4. Debevoise
5. White & Case
6. WilmerHale Dc? Nyc?
7. WilmerHale DC? Nyc?
8. Akin Gump
9. Alston & Bird ( Atlanta)
10. Holland & Knight ( Miami)
11. hogan lovells
12. Goodwin
13. Morgan, Lewis
14. Cahill
15. Dechert
16. Reed Smith
Wednesday:
1. K & E
2. Linklaters
3. Milibank
4. Allen & Overy
5. Freshfields
6. King & Spalding
7. Vinson & Elkins
8. Greenburg
9. Pilsbury
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Unless you're URM or have impressive work experience, your Day 1 and 2 seem way too aggressive. You can take a few shots with more selective firms, but generally I'd consider giving a higher ranking to at least a few firms where you are at, above or closer to the CB average. I'd probably drop firms like Debevoise, DPW, and PW down a few slots, and might drop Ropes altogether.
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Anonymous User wrote:25/M/3.87 GPA. Big CA or big NY preferred. Am I going to get owned bidding mostly competitive and/or CA stuff high?
Day 1
1 Ropes and Gray (CA)
2 Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati
3 Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher (CA)
4 Latham & Watkins (CA)
5 Paul Hastings (CA)
6 Foley & Lardner LLP
7 O'Melveny & Myers LLP
8 Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen & Hamilton LLP
9 MOFO (NY)
10 Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP
Day 2
1 Cravath
2 Skadden
3 Jones Day
4 Cooley LLP
5 Holland & Knight
6 Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP
7 Jones Day
8 Paul Weis
9 Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP
10 Clifford Chance US LLP
11 Reed Smith LLP
12 White & Case LLP
13 Alston & Bird LLP
14 Debevoise & Plimpton LLP
Day 3
1 Perkins Coie LLP
2 Linklaters
3 Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy LLP
4 Freshfields
5 Kirkland & Ellis LLP
6 Sutherland LLP
7 Allen & Overy
8 Winston & Strawn
9 Bracewell & Giuliani
10 Chadbourne and Parke LLP
11Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP
12 Greenberg Traurig LLP
13 Brown Rudnick LLP
14 Kaye Scholer LLP

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