I Propose a Standard Forum

manofjustice · Post by **manofjustice** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:11 am

I propose a standard for measuring the "ideal outcomes" of legal education that we can use to evaluate law schools' ABA employment data.

For the T14:

Business + Government + Public Interest + A3C

For the "good" non-T14 Teir 1:

The same, except only 1/2 of Business.

Debate.

IAFG · Post by **IAFG** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:20 am

Article III is too limiting. People who want to practice in Article I courts are surely content with their Article I clerkships. "Business" is too broad. "Government" is too broad.

fatduck · Post by **fatduck** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:21 am

doesn't "Business" include starbucks?

swimmer11 · Post by **swimmer11** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:24 am

What about a state supreme court (or highest court) clerkship? Especially for non-T14 good T1 schools.

IAFG · Post by **IAFG** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:40 am

swimmer11 wrote:What about a state supreme court (or highest court) clerkship? Especially for non-T14 good T1 schools.

Or Delaware chancery court.

rayiner · Post by **rayiner** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:50 am

manofjustice wrote:I propose a standard for measuring the "ideal outcomes" of legal education that we can use to evaluate law schools' ABA employment data.

For the T14:

Business + Government + Public Interest + A3C

For the "good" non-T14 Teir 1:

The same, except only 1/2 of Business.

Debate.

1/2 of business is bullshit at the T14 (probably more at schools that don't have top JD/MBA's).
All of business is bullshit at non-T14's.

Business includes both contract work with a temp agency and Starbucks. Even at NU, Id say half the business jobs are bullshit. Half are JD-MBA's who go do JD-MBA things, then there are a couple of people who do PWM or whatever, and the rest are contract work or people going back to their old jobs.

kalvano · Post by **kalvano** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:52 am

rayiner wrote:All of business is bullshit at non-T14's.

False. Just ask the Dean at SMU, he loves to ramble on about this.

rayiner · Post by **rayiner** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:53 am

kalvano wrote:
rayiner wrote:All of business is bullshit at non-T14's.

False. Just ask the Dean at SMU, he loves to ramble on about this.

Elaborate? Aside from JD-MBA's and a few people getting in-house gigs, nobody I know is in a decent business position that isn't their pre-LS job. I can't imagine consulting/finance is lapping up SMU grads that don't have MBA's.

kalvano · Post by **kalvano** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:55 am

rayiner wrote:
kalvano wrote:
rayiner wrote:All of business is bullshit at non-T14's.

False. Just ask the Dean at SMU, he loves to ramble on about this.
Elaborate? Aside from JD-MBA's and a few people getting in-house gigs, nobody I know is in a decent business position that isn't their pre-LS job.

SMU places a respectable amount of people into "business" gigs. Dallas is weird, though. Lots of different businesses around.

dowu · Post by **dowu** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:57 am

Checking in.

rayiner · Post by **rayiner** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:02 pm

kalvano wrote:
rayiner wrote:
kalvano wrote:
False. Just ask the Dean at SMU, he loves to ramble on about this.
Elaborate? Aside from JD-MBA's and a few people getting in-house gigs, nobody I know is in a decent business position that isn't their pre-LS job.

SMU places a respectable amount of people into "business" gigs. Dallas is weird, though. Lots of different businesses around.

Fair enough. I don't think that's true generally though. Texas is kind of weird generally.

kalvano · Post by **kalvano** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:14 pm

rayiner wrote:
kalvano wrote:
rayiner wrote:
kalvano wrote:
False. Just ask the Dean at SMU, he loves to ramble on about this.
Elaborate? Aside from JD-MBA's and a few people getting in-house gigs, nobody I know is in a decent business position that isn't their pre-LS job.

SMU places a respectable amount of people into "business" gigs. Dallas is weird, though. Lots of different businesses around.
Fair enough. I don't think that's true generally though. Texas is kind of weird generally.

I concur. Generally. And specifically.

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