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Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:43 pm

Anyone know how important Hs are for top NYC/LA firms (Irell, MTO, CSM, S&C, etc)? Not talking LPs, but how big of an impact do unimpressive grades have? Just curious for bidding purposes, haven't found anything else on here.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:22 am

depends on the rest of your resume. some of the smaller boutique type places look for h's but most of the firms don't really spend that much time on your transcript. you only have one semester of grades and if you did a p/f clinic you might only have 3 grades.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:26 am

Not a big deal at all for NYC firms. People with a mixture of Hs and Ps got offers at all of the firms you listed. Can't speak to LA, but it seemed like the very top DC firms were the most grade-selective.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:27 am

MTO wants to see more H's than P's. Irell is somewhat less selective, but still wants to see dem H's.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:52 pm

Anonymous User wrote:MTO wants to see more H's than P's. Irell is somewhat less selective, but still wants to see dem H's.

Do you think it's still worth trying for MTO with 1 H and 2 Ps (the other credits are ungraded)?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:56 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Not a big deal at all for NYC firms. People with a mixture of Hs and Ps got offers at all of the firms you listed. Can't speak to LA, but it seemed like the very top DC firms were the most grade-selective.

How grade-selective? All Hs? Almost all Hs? More Hs than Ps?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:43 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:MTO wants to see more H's than P's. Irell is somewhat less selective, but still wants to see dem H's.
Do you think it's still worth trying for MTO with 1 H and 2 Ps (the other credits are ungraded)?

It's worth a shot. It will help if you have a strong background or YLJ. (You find out about YLJ before interviews, right?)

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:41 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Not a big deal at all for NYC firms. People with a mixture of Hs and Ps got offers at all of the firms you listed. Can't speak to LA, but it seemed like the very top DC firms were the most grade-selective.
How grade-selective? All Hs? Almost all Hs? More Hs than Ps?

At a handful of selective firms, you probably need more Hs than Ps. But if you don't have many Hs you'll still be fine. You'll see -- almost everyone looking at the DC market gets a job somewhere very desirable. Some people clean up and get offers everywhere, and other people get fewer offers but still good ones.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:10 pm

OP here. Appreciate the replies... I guess we'll see soon how things play out.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:23 am

FWIW, YLJ calls went out--or at least started to go out--yesterday.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:16 pm

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:48 pm

CB from Simpson Thacher NY, Interviewer AF

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:49 pm

Curtis NY callback a couple of hours ago

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:10 pm

Note to future yls students: If you want boies ny litigation, bid them #1.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:56 pm

No one else out there wants to inform/brag?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:05 pm

Any word from Boies out there?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:23 pm

BSF corporate has made callbacks

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:47 pm

Anybody heard back from any DC firms?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:37 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Anybody heard back from any DC firms?

Latham, Sidley, Mayer Brown, and Hogan have all issued callbacks, as well as a number of the DC offices of New York firms (Paul Weiss, etc.). As far as I know, no Gibson Dunn or Wilmer callbacks yet.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:54 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Anybody heard back from any DC firms?
Latham, Sidley, Mayer Brown, and Hogan have all issued callbacks, as well as a number of the DC offices of New York firms (Paul Weiss, etc.). As far as I know, no Gibson Dunn or Wilmer callbacks yet.

Thanks man. Good stuff. Speaking of Gibson, what is with the weird rumors?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:00 pm

^ what are the weird rumors...

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:03 pm

which sidley interviewers have given callbacks?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:06 pm

Anonymous User wrote:^ what are the weird rumors...

some super-secret reception dinner? idk, this is all major hearsay

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:43 pm

Anonymous User wrote:which sidley interviewers have given callbacks?

PK/AA, and at least one of the two other pairs. They went out at similar times yesterday (between 3 and 5), so I assume Sidley DC is largely done.

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:^ what are the weird rumors...
some super-secret reception dinner? idk, this is all major hearsay

Gibson gave out on-the-spot invitations to dinners to some (but not all) interviewees. Even the dinner invitees haven't been told yet whether they've gotten callbacks, though.

Wilmer DC is now done, I think--JR's calls went out tonight around 7:45, JC's around 9.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:49 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Gibson gave out on-the-spot invitations to dinners to some (but not all) interviewees. Even the dinner invitees haven't been told yet whether they've gotten callbacks, though.

Is there any consensus on whether this is dispositive of whether an interviewee will receive a callback (or, conversely, an interviewee who was not invited will not receive a callback)? Were all Gibson interviewers involved or just a handful?

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