Texas OCI (and non-UT students bidding on TX firms) Forum

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:58 pm

f0bolous wrote:
DMXdawg wrote:Percentage of graduates that go to a NLJ 250 firm is not "pulling figures out of his ass."

NLJ 250 firms are defined as: The NLJ 250 includes the 250 largest law firms headquartered in the United States. This is measured by the firm-reported annual average number of full-time and full-time equivalent attorneys working at the firm, in any office, in 2011.

To list some: this includes traditional TX firms like V&E, BB, FJ, Akin Gump, Locke Lord, HayBoo, Bracewell, Andrews Kurth, Thompson and Knight, Jackson Walker,Gardere, Winstead, and Strasburger.

Not to mention satellite TX offices for firms (some with big TX offices) like Sidley Austin, Simpson Thatcher, Patton Boggs, Weil, Jones Day, Morgan Lewis, Cadwalader, Skadden, Hunton & Williams, Baker Donelson etc.

21.47% is a good percentage, but it is not close to the Cornells of the law school world.
Pretty sure the figure being pulled out of the ass is the "Michigan top 1/3 > UT top 10%" and the "Vanderbilt > UT for Texas" comments. The former is unlikely true and the latter is definitely not true.

Idk, I know someone top 1/3 at Michigan and he absolutely cleaned house with TX firms. I'm sure top 10% at UT would do the same and get more firms at OCI.

2014utLaw · Post by **2014utLaw** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:34 pm

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:46 pm

I have outed myself as straight in every interview (mentioning the wife is part of my "why I went to law school" rote answer).
I am unable to determine whether this has helped or hurt me.

Still nothing from Susman? Y'er killin' me here, guys.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:59 pm

Got an offer from Munsch Hardt in Dallas.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:03 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Got an offer from Munsch Hardt in Dallas.

When?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:08 pm

Do you know Munsch's offer rate for summer associates the past few years? Having trouble locating official numbers...

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:30 pm

Munsch Hardt- From a schoolmate who was a SA this past summer it was a 100%, but I think they only take about 2 or 3 per office. He seemed to indicate they only summer what they are prepared to offer and it is the SA's to lose.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:40 pm

Anyone know the CB to offer rate for K&L Gates Dallas?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:48 pm

Has Andrews Kurth (Austin) started giving out offers?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:09 pm

What are ypur impressions/viewpoints/which one would you choose for the following firms, all Houston: Latham & Watkins, Baker Botts, and Thompson & Knight?

Interested in transacitional work and have offers from the above. Thanks!

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:18 pm

Anonymous User wrote:What are ypur impressions/viewpoints/which one would you choose for the following firms, all Houston: Latham & Watkins, Baker Botts, and Thompson & Knight?

Interested in transacitional work and have offers from the above. Thanks!

I can't speak to T&K, but Latham seemed like a better place by far to work for than BB (this is coming from a person who wants your spot at Latham and who has a BB offer). Their office is by far nicer, there is no collective asperger's (like at BB), and they really seem to be recruiting some great people from UT who I'd love to work with. They took a huge risk by jumping into the Houston market, but it has been incredibly successful, unlike previous attempts (Skadden, for example).

Downside to Latham: no splitting. Downside to BB: everything else.

somewhatwayward · Post by **somewhatwayward** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:44 pm

Anonymous User wrote:One thing I know about UT is that 2Ls barely know any 3Ls...so I find it surprising that you would know enough people to even make the observation that "most" of the jobless 3Ls are minorities. Also, a firm openly admits that it doesn't hire Chinese? LOLWUT? I can see that a firm could be more xenophobic, but I highly doubt any firm that racist could distinguish Chinese from any other Asian. (Jackson Walker comes to mind with that one)

The other issues you point out are probably correct, although I doubt your Asian friend got dinged because she was Asian. More likely, she came off as an obnoxious northeast lib bitch. I can see how that would rub Texans the wrong way. Also, are you from Dallas? Complimenting the public transit there really betrays your lack of ties.

um, you're not helping your case...

grrrstick · Post by **grrrstick** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:52 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What are ypur impressions/viewpoints/which one would you choose for the following firms, all Houston: Latham & Watkins, Baker Botts, and Thompson & Knight?

Interested in transacitional work and have offers from the above. Thanks!
I can't speak to T&K, but Latham seemed like a better place by far to work for than BB (this is coming from a person who wants your spot at Latham and who has a BB offer). Their office is by far nicer, there is no collective asperger's (like at BB), and they really seem to be recruiting some great people from UT who I'd love to work with. They took a huge risk by jumping into the Houston market, but it has been incredibly successful, unlike previous attempts (Skadden, for example).

Downside to Latham: no splitting. Downside to BB: everything else.

You can definitely split at Latham Houston and still get an offer. The bigger worry with Latham is what would happen if/when the oil industry slows down. Latham charges much higher rates than the Texas firms which deal with big industry and a big chunk of their business in Houston comes from the force of several personalities they recruited away from other firms. Not sure if paying those rainmakers will make sense if things slow down; BB, VE et al will still be there with their lower rates.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:06 pm

AK dallas offers update?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:19 pm

Anonymous User wrote:AK dallas offers update?

+1. Didn't a poster earlier in this thread mention that offers will be going out the 18th? Is this credited?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:53 pm

Heard of an Akin Gump Houston office offer

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:06 pm

K&L Gates (Dallas) offer this evening.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:07 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Got an offer from Munsch Hardt in Dallas.
When?

thursday

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:08 am

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone do this week's CB at Porter Hedges? Curious to know how many people were at the second one.

Roughly 20 people at the second CB stage. I believe offers will be extended this week

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:23 pm

Has anyone received a cb from Thompson and Knight?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:31 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone received a cb from Thompson and Knight?

Yes. I received a ding letter, and I have many friends who received a CB weeks ago.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:52 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone received a cb from Thompson and Knight?
Yes. I received a ding letter, and I have many friends who received a CB weeks ago.

TK Dallas offers went out a week or two ago.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:58 pm

Anyone hear from Baker Donelson on any level?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:11 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone received a cb from Thompson and Knight?
Yes. I received a ding letter, and I have many friends who received a CB weeks ago.
TK Dallas offers went out a week or two ago.

Sorry I didn't specify, has anyone received a cb from TK Houston?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:18 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone received a cb from Thompson and Knight?
Yes. I received a ding letter, and I have many friends who received a CB weeks ago.
TK Dallas offers went out a week or two ago.
Sorry I didn't specify, has anyone received a cb from TK Houston?

I was the ding letter guy, and the CBs were in reference to TK Houston.

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