HLS 2012 EIP Thread Forum

[bobjones23]

What firm will have the best exit options? Covington/Wilmer/Gibson DC, or Simpson/Cleary/Davis NYC? I'm indifferent between ending up in NYC or DC. I'm wondering what would be better for my career, long-term.

[Anonymous User]

Wilmer dc email ding (bc)

[Anonymous User]

For the Cravath callback, when they say to bring your transcript and white out your social security number, are they ok with an unofficial transcript? Or do they really want an official transcript?

[Anonymous User]

Yea, my sense is that NY firms and DC firms (besides AP and Cov) are selective in different ways. NY firms are grade selective, with some requiring 7 Hs, and DC firms are often very 'fit' selective, taking people with a lot of PI or government internship/work experience. It's not that Akin etc require more Hs than Cravath or Sullcrom. That's why in the end SullCrom has more industry prestige, at least according to rankings.

Just FYI, there are no NY firms that require at least 7 Hs. That's a fact.

Also FYI, there are no firms that would waste the expense of a callback on you unless you met whatever grade "cutoff" they may have.

[Anonymous User]

Yea, my sense is that NY firms and DC firms (besides AP and Cov) are selective in different ways. NY firms are grade selective, with some requiring 7 Hs, and DC firms are often very 'fit' selective, taking people with a lot of PI or government internship/work experience. It's not that Akin etc require more Hs than Cravath or Sullcrom. That's why in the end SullCrom has more industry prestige, at least according to rankings.

Just FYI, there are no NY firms that require at least 7 Hs. That's a fact.

Also FYI, there are no firms that would waste the expense of a callback on you unless you met whatever grade "cutoff" they may have.

WLRK

[GertrudePerkins]

What firm will have the best exit options? Covington/Wilmer/Gibson DC, or Simpson/Cleary/Davis NYC? I'm indifferent between ending up in NYC or DC. I'm wondering what would be better for my career, long-term.

I suspect there's really no answer to this question as posed. If you want to wind up working in-house for an NYC financial firm, then probably going to NYC would help. If you want to wind up working for the FDA, go to Covington and do regulatory work. I don't think "best exit options" means anything absent specific career goals.

[Anonymous User]

Wilmer dc email ding (bc)

any more of these?

[Anonymous User]

Yea, my sense is that NY firms and DC firms (besides AP and Cov) are selective in different ways. NY firms are grade selective, with some requiring 7 Hs, and DC firms are often very 'fit' selective, taking people with a lot of PI or government internship/work experience. It's not that Akin etc require more Hs than Cravath or Sullcrom. That's why in the end SullCrom has more industry prestige, at least according to rankings.

Just FYI, there are no NY firms that require at least 7 Hs. That's a fact.

Also FYI, there are no firms that would waste the expense of a callback on you unless you met whatever grade "cutoff" they may have.

WLRK

WLRK does not have a 7 H cut-off.

[Anonymous User]

Wiley Rein DC (SM)

[Anonymous User]

Wilmer dc email ding (bc)

any more of these?

yeah...

[Anonymous User]

McDermott NY CB via email just now

[Anonymous User]

Wilmer dc email ding (bc)

any more of these?

yeah...

Any from interviewer DB?

[Anonymous User]

WilmerDC ding AO

[Anonymous User]

BCG McKinsey email CB's. Anyone out there doing consulting CB's want to practice case interviews?

[Anonymous User]

Yea, my sense is that NY firms and DC firms (besides AP and Cov) are selective in different ways. NY firms are grade selective, with some requiring 7 Hs, and DC firms are often very 'fit' selective, taking people with a lot of PI or government internship/work experience. It's not that Akin etc require more Hs than Cravath or Sullcrom. That's why in the end SullCrom has more industry prestige, at least according to rankings.

Just FYI, there are no NY firms that require at least 7 Hs. That's a fact.

Also FYI, there are no firms that would waste the expense of a callback on you unless you met whatever grade "cutoff" they may have.

WLRK

WLRK does not have a 7 H cut-off.

I had more Hs than that, and didn't receive a WLRK callback. I do have a terrible personality, however.

[Anonymous User]

Cleary DC and Jones Day are less selective, but they're giving CB's and offers to significantly fewer people than either S&C or Cravath. The numbers are up on Symplicity, and they pretty clearly indicate that the tippity-top students at HLS overwhelmingly flock to DC.

I don't know about that. It seems that a pretty large number of Law Review types go to LA and NY firms. S&C had 4 or 5 HLR kids last year and the top LA firms like Munger, Irell, and Gibson had a good half dozen to 10 HLR people.

[Anonymous User]

Cleary DC and Jones Day are less selective, but they're giving CB's and offers to significantly fewer people than either S&C or Cravath. The numbers are up on Symplicity, and they pretty clearly indicate that the tippity-top students at HLS overwhelmingly flock to DC.

I don't know about that. It seems that a pretty large number of Law Review types go to LA and NY firms. S&C had 4 or 5 HLR kids last year and the top LA firms like Munger, Irell, and Gibson had a good half dozen to 10 HLR people.

Top LA firms got three law review people last year, and I think none the previous year. Many do go to NY though, and tons to DC.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone hear from Jones Day DC?

[Anonymous User]

anyone heard from Crowell NY?

[Anonymous User]

Cleary DC and Jones Day are less selective, but they're giving CB's and offers to significantly fewer people than either S&C or Cravath. The numbers are up on Symplicity, and they pretty clearly indicate that the tippity-top students at HLS overwhelmingly flock to DC.

I don't know about that. It seems that a pretty large number of Law Review types go to LA and NY firms. S&C had 4 or 5 HLR kids last year and the top LA firms like Munger, Irell, and Gibson had a good half dozen to 10 HLR people.

Sure, my initial statement was probably too broad. Plenty of LR/magna people work in NY, and most of those are at WLRK/S&C/Cravath (and some go to DPW/Cleary/Debevoise as well, but generally not the rest of the V15). I was just trying to illustrate that firms like Jenner DC, Akin DC, and some others are no less selective than the most selective NY firms, even though they are not ranked as highly by Vault.

[Anonymous User]

Any news from Skadden/Jones Day/Sherman DC?

[Anonymous User]

Any news from Skadden/Jones Day/Sherman DC?

Skadden DC CB last Thursday.

[Anonymous User]

Finally got the OMM CC ding after sitting in no man's land for a week.

[Anonymous User]

Cleary NYC ding by email, interviewer BP

[Anonymous User]

Any news from Skadden/Jones Day/Sherman DC?

Shearman CB yesterday, interviewer JG