2012 NU OCI Forum

[Anonymous User]

Seems like it's time for a list up in here, Targeting Chicago, will peper in some small MW markets after 20th bid. 3.55, presumably no LR, but a secondar journal of some sort. Want to do lit, minor Labor/Employment interests:

Katten
McDermot
Jones Day
Neal Gerber
Winston
Jenner
Foley Lardner
Schiff Hardin
Latham
Vedder Price
DLA Piper
Reed Smith
Drinker Biddle
Baker Mackenzie
Goldberg Kohn
Morgan Lewis


Thoughts?

I think that Kirkland and Sidley should be on your list. While you are probably under the median call back GPA (I actually just don't know this but am guessing) those are the two firms with the largest summer classes in chicago and have been known to take people with GPAs in that range as a part of their summer classes.

Same Anon here...should they be high enough so as to actually land an interview (i.e. top-3) or just on the list so I can hustle them at hospitality suites? Scared to death not to include enough safe/targets

[D-hops]

Seems like it's time for a list up in here, Targeting Chicago, will peper in some small MW markets after 20th bid. 3.55, presumably no LR, but a secondar journal of some sort. Want to do lit, minor Labor/Employment interests:

Katten
McDermot
Jones Day
Neal Gerber
Winston
Jenner
Foley Lardner
Schiff Hardin
Latham
Vedder Price
DLA Piper
Reed Smith
Drinker Biddle
Baker Mackenzie
Goldberg Kohn
Morgan Lewis


Thoughts?

I think that Kirkland and Sidley should be on your list. While you are probably under the median call back GPA (I actually just don't know this but am guessing) those are the two firms with the largest summer classes in chicago and have been known to take people with GPAs in that range as a part of their summer classes.

Same Anon here...should they be high enough so as to actually land an interview (i.e. top-3) or just on the list so I can hustle them at hospitality suites? Scared to death not to include enough safe/targets

I don't think you are likely to get an interview or callback from a hospitality suite with them because your ability to land a job at that firm is showing that you have a great personality/story to tell, and you can't do that through a hospitality suite. I hear that Kirkland added a bunch of interview slots this year so you may not have to bid them as high as in previous years (but you should confirm that). Otherwise I would say that if you add them you probably need to add them in a place where you will get a screener with them.

[Flips88]

Well put my bids in. Why does this thing last 3 weeks again?

[homestyle28]

Well put my bids in. Why does this thing last 3 weeks again?

So you can change them...over and over and over again!

I keep thinking, man the New Mexico market is wide-open, I should add it!

[Anonymous User]

Trying this out. 3.74, no LR, (hopefully) secondary journal. Litigation focused, staying in Chicago.

Me again. 3.74, accepted JCLC. All Chicago offices unless indicated otherwise.

Sidley
Kirkland
Jenner
Winston
Mayer Brown
McDermott
Katten
Baker McKenzie
Skadden
Jones Day
Latham
Paul Hastings
dla piper
Perkins Coie
Morgan Lewis
Ropes
Reed Smith

Thoughts? I'm still trying to work out where to bid on things based on interview slots. Is general wisdom the more slots, the lower you can bid and still get it? How low should Kirkland with 160 spots be in that case? Winston only has 40, are they OK at 4?

[homestyle28]

Trying this out. 3.74, no LR, (hopefully) secondary journal. Litigation focused, staying in Chicago.

Me again. 3.74, accepted JCLC. All Chicago offices unless indicated otherwise.

Sidley
Kirkland
Jenner
Winston
Mayer Brown
McDermott
Katten
Baker McKenzie
Skadden
Jones Day
Latham
Paul Hastings
DLA Piper
Perkins Coie
Morgan Lewis
Ropes
Reed Smith

Thoughts? I'm still trying to work out where to bid on things based on interview slots. Is general wisdom the more slots, the lower you can bid and still get it? How low should Kirkland with 160 spots be in that case? Winston only has 40, are they OK at 4?

Except that I think you should remove any and all firms that I'm bidding on, it looks about right to me. Morgan Lewis' Chicago office is more heavily tilted to Labor & EMployment than lit.

[Anonymous User]

If I bid on Chicago firms at the CCBA Minority Job Fair and was not pre-selected by them, does that basically mean I have no chance, or should I still bid on them at OCI like nothing ever happened?

[D-hops]

If I bid on Chicago firms at the CCBA Minority Job Fair and was not pre-selected by them, does that basically mean I have no chance, or should I still bid on them at OCI like nothing ever happened?

You should still bid on them. CCBA has a very limited number of interview spots and you don't know the credentials of the other people you are bidding against.

[homestyle28]

So once bidding is done, how long do we have to wait to get our results?

[Anonymous User]

3.69, Secondary Journal

How do my top 20 look? This is actually way harder than anticipated. Unless indicated I'm shooting for NYC and east coast. 8 years W/E, from northeast originally. Not conservative enough?


1. Sidley - Chicago
2. K&E - Chocago
3. Proskaeur
4. Weil
5. Ropes
6. Latham
7. Edwards Wildman
8. Mayer Brown - Chicago
9. Wilmerhale
10. Jenner
11. Jones Day
12. Cravath
13. Goodwin Procter
14. Bingham McCutchen
15. Skadden
16. Davis Polk
17. Paul Weiss
18. Foley & Lardner
19. Simpson Thatcher
20. Kaye Scholer

[homestyle28]

Did we all fill out the FERPA form at the OCI orientation thing in the spring? I seem to remember filling it out then or in the fall before 1L OCI...if we were able to do 1L OCI does that mean we're good to go FERPA-wise or should I drop one off on Monday?

[Georgia Avenue]

Pretty sure that's the one.

[rayiner]

3.69, Secondary Journal

How do my top 20 look? This is actually way harder than anticipated. Unless indicated I'm shooting for NYC and east coast. 8 years W/E, from northeast originally. Not conservative enough?


1. Sidley - Chicago
2. K&E - Chocago
3. Proskaeur
4. Weil
5. Ropes
6. Latham
7. Edwards Wildman
8. Mayer Brown - Chicago
9. Wilmerhale
10. Jenner
11. Jones Day
12. Cravath
13. Goodwin Procter
14. Bingham McCutchen
15. Skadden
16. Davis Polk
17. Paul Weiss
18. Foley & Lardner
19. Simpson Thatcher
20. Kaye Scholer

No shot at Wilmer DC. Shot at everywhere else, though V10 NYC is a reach. But too aggressive. Need more targets and safeties in top 15. DPW, Cravath, Simpson, etc, will barely fill up. Can bid them into the 20's.

[Anonymous User]

3.4ish, looking at Chicago and East Coast (good ties to East Coast.)

All offices are Chicago unless otherwise indicated.
dla piper
Chapman and Cutler
Drinker Biddle (Philly)
Baker McKenzie
Pircher Nichols
Holland Knight
K&L Gates
Dechert (Philly)
SNR Denton
Greenberg Traurig
Proskauer Rose (NY)
Bryan Cave
Faegre
Vedder Price
Katten

Looking for critiques.

[Anonymous User]

What do you define as a target/safety? Right at or slightly above/below (like .05 in either direction) median?

For instance, someone with a 3.7 - are places like Jenner, McDermott targets or reaches? Katten a safety?

[homestyle28]

I defined as follows:
Reach anything .2 or more above my GPA
Target anything within .1 +/-
saftey anything .2 or more below

[Anonymous User]

Greenberg says they only want top 15%...not sure if they mean it though.

3.4ish, looking at Chicago and East Coast (good ties to East Coast.)

All offices are Chicago unless otherwise indicated.
DLA Piper
Chapman and Cutler
Drinker Biddle (Philly)
Baker McKenzie
Pircher Nichols
Holland Knight
K&L Gates
Dechert (Philly)
SNR Denton
Greenberg Traurig
Proskauer Rose (NY)
Bryan Cave
Faegre
Vedder Price
Katten

Looking for critiques.

[rayiner]

Disregard the Symplicity blurbs saying "top 15%" or whatever completely. They're complete nonsense. I swear firms use the same blurbs for U Chicago/NU/Loyola.

[splitmuch]

Any thoughts on how low KandE can be bid with the 160 interview spots?

[Flips88]

So when does this computer poop out our interviews?

[Georgia Avenue]

Friday

[Flips88]

Friday

Maaaaaaaaaan, i'm gonna be at lollapalooza. that shit better be up in the morning.

[Icculus]

Friday

Maaaaaaaaaan, i'm gonna be at lollapalooza. that shit better be up in the morning.

I have noticed a trend with you Flips, and I think maybe if you took up yoga you would be better able to handle all the waiting we have to do.

[Georgia Avenue]

Friday

Maaaaaaaaaan, i'm gonna be at lollapalooza. that shit better be up in the morning.

We go to Northwestern. Don't count on it brah.

[D-hops]

I defined as follows:
Reach anything .2 or more above my GPA
Target anything within .1 +/-
saftey anything .2 or more below

A little caveat about "safety" firms: this is not law school admissions. Just because you are above a call back median or near the high end does not mean you will get a call back there and certainly does not mean that you will get an offer there. The only "numbers game" law firms play is targeting a certain size summer class and offering people that impressed them (via interview and academic performance) accounting for a certain amount of people to decline the offer. While I think OCI is a little more numbers driven, it is certainly not so much that you can use the term "safety" with respect to any firm.