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Working at IP firm during 2L and 3L.
I know some IP law firms employ law students (2L/3L) part-time.
How accessible are these positions? Are they rare?
How does the hourly rate compare to what an associate would make?
EDIT: In DC.
How accessible are these positions? Are they rare?
How does the hourly rate compare to what an associate would make?
EDIT: In DC.
Last edited by bbalcrzy23 on Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Working at IP firm during 2L and 3L.
How rare is hard to say, but I did it and know a handful of others that did it in the NY market. It is the exception, not the rule. Pay is between 50-80 an hour, though obviously YMMV.
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Re: Working at IP firm during 2L and 3L.
I got and worked one of these gigs my 1L year. Between $60-70/hr. T20 school, BSEE. Not NY market though.
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Re: Working at IP firm during 2L and 3L.
Not sure why anonymous.
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Re: Working at IP firm during 2L and 3L.
$60-$70 sounds unbelievably high for a part-time law clerk. $70/hr for a 35 hr work week breaks down to about $130k/yr, which is 1st year associate/SA pay. Frankly speaking, law students are not worth that much to firms. Firms pay SAs high salaries for the summer as a means of enticing them to come back full time after school. They aren't getting the same amount/quality of work out of summers as they get out of associates, so the firm is technically losing money on them. SAs are long term investments.
If firms do hire part time for IP work, it's usually going to be for patent prosecution or other transactional-type work. The hourly rates I've heard of in my market are around $30 for part-time (post SA) work. The only exception I can think of is perhaps if you're doing patent prosecution work and you have a registration number with the patent office (i.e., you passed the patent bar), but this will entirely depend upon the firm's needs.
If firms do hire part time for IP work, it's usually going to be for patent prosecution or other transactional-type work. The hourly rates I've heard of in my market are around $30 for part-time (post SA) work. The only exception I can think of is perhaps if you're doing patent prosecution work and you have a registration number with the patent office (i.e., you passed the patent bar), but this will entirely depend upon the firm's needs.
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Re: Working at IP firm during 2L and 3L.
I had one of these positions in the DC market. My estimate is 40-60 average.
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Re: Working at IP firm during 2L and 3L.
Minneapolis. $45/hr both pre and post summer. Have a registration number, but I don't think this makes a difference at my firm.