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Depressed 3L at MVP
I'm a 3L at MVP, a bit below median, struck out at OCI because of grades and poor bidding.
I have a couple of public interest areas I'm interested in, but I've always wanted to work at a (big) firm. I've been trying to get a state court clerkship gig because nothing federal has worked out since I'm not competitive. Even the state court clerkships are not biting. I am also looking for public interest work and small/mid-size firms. I'm not even picky about location. I just feel really shitty and like and I can't even get the stupidest job out there.
I just keep blaming myself for not doing better and doing more in my job search. How can I motivate myself and stay positive?
I have a couple of public interest areas I'm interested in, but I've always wanted to work at a (big) firm. I've been trying to get a state court clerkship gig because nothing federal has worked out since I'm not competitive. Even the state court clerkships are not biting. I am also looking for public interest work and small/mid-size firms. I'm not even picky about location. I just feel really shitty and like and I can't even get the stupidest job out there.
I just keep blaming myself for not doing better and doing more in my job search. How can I motivate myself and stay positive?
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Re: Depressed 3L at MVP
Wait until you pass the bar and then search for jobs. Focus on your grades for now.Anonymous User wrote:I'm a 3L at MVP, a bit below median, struck out at OCI because of grades and poor bidding.
I have a couple of public interest areas I'm interested in, but I've always wanted to work at a (big) firm. I've been trying to get a state court clerkship gig because nothing federal has worked out since I'm not competitive. Even the state court clerkships are not biting. I am also looking for public interest work and small/mid-size firms. I'm not even picky about location. I just feel really shitty and like and I can't even get the stupidest job out there.
I just keep blaming myself for not doing better and doing more in my job search. How can I motivate myself and stay positive?
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Re: Depressed 3L at MVP
Focus on grades and see if you can write a publishable note.
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OP here. My grades this semester are not going to make much difference because it is only going to be a small fraction of my graded credits since I'm doing a clinic that is only partially graded. Publishing isn't a bad idea. I just feel like I have so much to juggle already with trying to find a job and doing this clinic (which has been pretty good in terms of getting courtroom experience).existenz wrote:Focus on grades and see if you can write a publishable note.
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Re: Depressed 3L at MVP
Why don't you ditch the big law dream and focus on something that will be rewarding, like being a litigator for plaintiffs at a smaller firm. You can make just as much money (if you're really good), work fewer hours, and not be in the partner rat race.Anonymous User wrote:OP here. My grades this semester are not going to make much difference because it is only going to be a small fraction of my graded credits since I'm doing a clinic that is only partially graded. Publishing isn't a bad idea. I just feel like I have so much to juggle already with trying to find a job and doing this clinic (which has been pretty good in terms of getting courtroom experience).existenz wrote:Focus on grades and see if you can write a publishable note.
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Re: Depressed 3L at MVP
I ask this as a depressed 2L at MVP who is well on my way towards being a depressed 3L: What did you end up doing last summer after striking out at OCI?
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Anonymous User wrote:I ask this as a depressed 2L at MVP who is well on my way towards being a depressed 3L: What did you end up doing last summer after striking out at OCI?
I am interested too. Any law firm experience of any sort?
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OP here.Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:I ask this as a depressed 2L at MVP who is well on my way towards being a depressed 3L: What did you end up doing last summer after striking out at OCI?
I am interested too. Any law firm experience of any sort?
Unfortunately I was unable to get private law firm experience. I think part of that was my attempt to get into a relatively insular market. At the same time, this market was the only place I had any ties to. I ended up working in that market but for a state government agency and a public interest law firm. I wanted to get transactional experience. But as it turned out, I got very little experience at all even though I asked for it. I also got very little feedback from the attorneys at either job. It was a really shitty summer because I barely had any opportunity to improve my lawyering skills. I had no mentoring.
I have always wanted to work for a big firm, but I am quite open to other options. My main hesitancy is that I do not want to get blindsided again and find myself in a situation where I cannot develop my abilities practically to become the good lawyer I know I can become. I know a lot of what happens at bigger firms involves you paying your dues, but you still get a great foundation and experience that is respected if you want to do something else later on. Basically I am terrified of not being able to put my good education to good use.
Edit: I just wanted to add that I am not so particular about location after my experience in my target market. I am now applying much more broadly, but as I found when I applied elsewhere for summer jobs, a lack of ties to an area seems to hurt my chances.
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Re: Depressed 3L at MVP
i wish i could help OP, but i'm in a similar situation. 3L grades are not worth a damn. my grades improved dramatically after 1L (now #9 at a T30), and i'm jerbless. the rank just makes it embarrassing...
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Re: Depressed 3L at MVP
Julio_El_Chavo wrote:Wait until you pass the bar and then search for jobs. Focus on your grades for now.Anonymous User wrote:I'm a 3L at MVP, a bit below median, struck out at OCI because of grades and poor bidding.
I have a couple of public interest areas I'm interested in, but I've always wanted to work at a (big) firm. I've been trying to get a state court clerkship gig because nothing federal has worked out since I'm not competitive. Even the state court clerkships are not biting. I am also looking for public interest work and small/mid-size firms. I'm not even picky about location. I just feel really shitty and like and I can't even get the stupidest job out there.
I just keep blaming myself for not doing better and doing more in my job search. How can I motivate myself and stay positive?
I personally disagree on the waiting until you pass the bar. I think that finding a job takes a while, and if you are unemployed 6 months, or a year after passing the bar, it is just going to be that much more difficult to find a job. Just my two cents!