2L Grades Forum

[Anonymous User]

If I have a job lined up for the summer and I'm assuming I will get an offer, what do my 2L and 3L grades matter for, besides clerkships which I am not interested in?

[LawIdiot86]

If I have a job lined up for the summer and I'm assuming I will get an offer, what do my 2L and 3L grades matter for, besides clerkships which I am not interested in?

If you're assuming you'll get an offer, then no worries, slack off and let some other people move up the curve. I wouldn't though. Can't predict the economy, the strength of your firm, where you'll want to be in five years, etc. Plus, you could be at a firm like GDC which cares about grades or go to a firm like GDC. My OCS counselor was telling me that in another life as a headhunter, they had a GDC-class firm request transcripts of a potential lateral partner.

[Old Gregg]

WTF is a "'GDC' Class firm?" dla piper?

[LawIdiot86]

WTF is a "'GDC' Class firm?" DLA Piper?

A firm of the same general size and prestige level as GDC.

[NoleinNY]

WTF is a "'GDC' Class firm?" DLA Piper?

A firm of the same general size and prestige level as GDC.

In other words, GDC.

[Big Shrimpin]

If I have a job lined up for the summer and I'm assuming I will get an offer, what do my 2L and 3L grades matter for, besides clerkships which I am not interested in?

'Dat PRESTIGE! Don't fight it: you were BORN and BRED for SUCCESS and ACHIEVEMENT!

[Citizen Genet]

*begin race to the bottom on no-offer stories for grades going down*

I heard GDC kills your puppy if your GPA doesn't go up by .034.

[Anonymous User]

I'm going anon in order not to out myself. Classmates know who am on here.

What's the general consensus about the V5 and grades. They all seem to have close to 100% offer rates, but some of them can very very grade grubby during the application process (S&C, Davis Polk) while others (Cravath) seem a little bit more about fit (although they require pretty heavy-duty grades).

Which ones seem to care about grades during the summer?

[Old Gregg]

I'm going anon in order not to out myself. Classmates know who am on here.

What's the general consensus about the V5 and grades. They all seem to have close to 100% offer rates, but some of them can very very grade grubby during the application process (S&C, Davis Polk) while others (Cravath) seem a little bit more about fit (although they require pretty heavy-duty grades).

Which ones seem to care about grades during the summer?

No one really knows unless they were no-offered from one of those firms for specifically that reason, in which case they wouldn't be posting about it here. When you get an offer from your firm, it isn't like the partner or recruiter says "well hmm... you did good work and your grades stayed around where they should be, so you get an offer."

Just keep your grades up. Shouldn't be too hard for you when it's at least slightly easier to get them 2L and 3L years, and when you know how to gun perfectly well since you got your job in the first place.

[Anonymous User]

Do any firms revoke your SA from 2L grades?

[c3pO4]

Do any firms revoke your SA from 2L grades?

Use the search feature. This question gets asked over, and over, and over, and over. No reason to be anon either.

[Anonymous User]

My V10 never asked for 2L grades before giving me an offer. I asked the hiring partner at one point and was told they literally just check that you graduate. I imagine however this varies from firm to firm.

[YourCaptain]

WTF is a "'GDC' Class firm?" DLA Piper?

one of the best poasts on this site. 180

[Anonymous User]

WTF is a "'GDC' Class firm?" DLA Piper?

one of the best poasts on this site. 180

[Anonymous User]

WTF is a "'GDC' Class firm?" DLA Piper?

one of the best poasts on this site. 180

double poast

[YourCaptain]

WTF is a "'GDC' Class firm?" DLA Piper?

one of the best poasts on this site. 180

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[IAFG]

I'm going anon in order not to out myself. Classmates know who am on here.

What's the general consensus about the V5 and grades. They all seem to have close to 100% offer rates, but some of them can very very grade grubby during the application process (S&C, Davis Polk) while others (Cravath) seem a little bit more about fit (although they require pretty heavy-duty grades).

Which ones seem to care about grades during the summer?

lol wtf you talkin' bout

[Anonymous User]

I can confirm that GDC has requested the law school transcript of a lateral partner ~30 years out of law school. Though this seems to have been meant to just confirm that said partner actually went to, and graduated from, the law school on their resume.

Similarly, i've heard of them grade requesting all SA's, but i've never heard of a no-offer because of it.

[Anonymous User]

I can confirm that GDC has requested the law school transcript of a lateral partner ~30 years out of law school. Though this seems to have been meant to just confirm that said partner actually went to, and graduated from, the law school on their resume.

Similarly, i've heard of them grade requesting all SA's, but i've never heard of a no-offer because of it.

I can confirm this confirmation.

[Anonymous User]

I'm going anon in order not to out myself. Classmates know who am on here.

What's the general consensus about the V5 and grades. They all seem to have close to 100% offer rates, but some of them can very very grade grubby during the application process (S&C, Davis Polk) while others (Cravath) seem a little bit more about fit (although they require pretty heavy-duty grades).

Which ones seem to care about grades during the summer?

lol wtf you talkin' bout

At my school the median callback gpa at Cravath was lower than any of the other V5. It's still high, but not as high as S&C or Davis Polk. Plus Cravath's day long interviews and willingness to dig deeper into the gpa pool than its peers indicate that it's at least a little less about numbers and more about fit.

That's what I'm talking about.

[IAFG]

I'm going anon in order not to out myself. Classmates know who am on here.

What's the general consensus about the V5 and grades. They all seem to have close to 100% offer rates, but some of them can very very grade grubby during the application process (S&C, Davis Polk) while others (Cravath) seem a little bit more about fit (although they require pretty heavy-duty grades).

Which ones seem to care about grades during the summer?

lol wtf you talkin' bout

At my school the median callback gpa at Cravath was lower than any of the other V5. It's still high, but not as high as S&C or Davis Polk. Plus Cravath's day long interviews and willingness to dig deeper into the gpa pool than its peers indicate that it's at least a little less about numbers and more about fit.

That's what I'm talking about.

I don't agree that the fact that Cravath has to dig deeper means that they're looking at fit. I think it reflects the fact that Cravath has a shitty reputation among law students relative to other V5s (and V10s for that matter).

[Anonymous User]

I'm going anon in order not to out myself. Classmates know who am on here.

What's the general consensus about the V5 and grades. They all seem to have close to 100% offer rates, but some of them can very very grade grubby during the application process (S&C, Davis Polk) while others (Cravath) seem a little bit more about fit (although they require pretty heavy-duty grades).

Which ones seem to care about grades during the summer?

lol wtf you talkin' bout

At my school the median callback gpa at Cravath was lower than any of the other V5. It's still high, but not as high as S&C or Davis Polk. Plus Cravath's day long interviews and willingness to dig deeper into the gpa pool than its peers indicate that it's at least a little less about numbers and more about fit.

That's what I'm talking about.

I don't agree that the fact that Cravath has to dig deeper means that they're looking at fit. I think it reflects the fact that Cravath has a shitty reputation among law students relative to other V5s (and V10s for that matter).

Look. I don't really care about this one way or another, but we're talking callbacks, not acceptances.

[Grizz]

WTF is a "'GDC' Class firm?" DLA Piper?

one of the best poasts on this site. 180

Old memes are still funny, BROTHER

[IAFG]

Look. I don't really care about this one way or another, but we're talking callbacks, not acceptances.

What does that show? Cravath deferred people like crazy and doesn't pay better bonuses than market (obviously). They also have a scary reputation for being a sweatshop. In my circle of friends, no one who got the Cravath offer took it, and I also know two people who summered there last summer and aren't going back (and not because they didn't get offers). Cravath dips deeper (on callbacks) because they have to.

[Old Gregg]

Never underestimate the lengths through which a prestige whore will go to rationalize bad hours and poor pay for perceived reputation.