How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs? Forum

[Anonymous User]

TT, Median, LR, WE, IP, URM, V100...

[IAmNietzche]

Philly T100 w/ an offer at a V60-70

Know of a kid here with an offer at a V5.

How did s/he enjoy Skadden this past summer?

Ah sorry, thought this was for 2L employment. Disregard.

EDIT: Correct, obviously.

[Void]

Damn. It looks like it almost would have been worth becoming an Eagles fan in exchange for job prospects. Almost.

[Grizz]

TT, Median, LR, WE, IP, URM, V100...

The quadfecta!

[Blessedassurance]

Here's an interesting idea: maybe try to work and get experience in the real world before law school and build connections that will lead to future job(s) regardless of where you end up going?

Dude, really?

[Patriot1208]

Here's an interesting idea: maybe try to work and get experience in the real world before law school and build connections that will lead to future job(s) regardless of where you end up going?

pretty irrelevant suggestion for most of the people likely to be reading that.

It wasn't a suggestion really, just a "hey, what did you expect?" kinda thing. I get fed up with people that think that a JD miraculously changes the rules of the working world where experience and results trump most fancy degrees. I'm sorry but honestly, people need to stop telling kids that the key to a good job is having the best numbers. /tirade

Source: kid who graduated in 2009 and has worked as a paralegal at NYC big law firms that have told me to come back when I'm a 2L to talk to them.

Most connections people make in any industry won't lead to a full time legal job offer, this includes being a paralegal.

[caputlupinum]

Here's an interesting idea: maybe try to work and get experience in the real world before law school and build connections that will lead to future job(s) regardless of where you end up going?

pretty irrelevant suggestion for most of the people likely to be reading that.

It wasn't a suggestion really, just a "hey, what did you expect?" kinda thing. I get fed up with people that think that a JD miraculously changes the rules of the working world where experience and results trump most fancy degrees. I'm sorry but honestly, people need to stop telling kids that the key to a good job is having the best numbers. /tirade

Source: kid who graduated in 2009 and has worked as a paralegal at NYC big law firms that have told me to come back when I'm a 2L to talk to them.

Most connections people make in any industry won't lead to a full time legal job offer, this includes being a paralegal.

[Anonymous User]

Seems like the top 25% at Fordham this year killed it. Like lots of kids getting v100 jobs, few in the minority not. I know two people in the top 33%, non-lr who not only have great jobs lined up, but had several offers to choose from.

i'm pretty impressed with how well fordham did for it's top students. for everyone else (aka 300 plus students)...probably not so good.

[Gettingstarted1928]

Seems like the top 25% at Fordham this year killed it. Like lots of kids getting v100 jobs, few in the minority not. I know two people in the top 33%, non-lr who not only have great jobs lined up, but had several offers to choose from.

i'm pretty impressed with how well fordham did for it's top students. for everyone else (aka 300 plus students)...probably not so good.

That's impressive considering how competitive NY is even when the economy is great.

[Anonymous User]

Seems like the top 25% at Fordham this year killed it. Like lots of kids getting v100 jobs, few in the minority not. I know two people in the top 33%, non-lr who not only have great jobs lined up, but had several offers to choose from.

i'm pretty impressed with how well fordham did for it's top students. for everyone else (aka 300 plus students)...probably not so good terrible.

Different poster, completely agree with everything said here, but had to fix last part.

[seatown12]

Here's an interesting idea: maybe try to work and get experience in the real world before law school and build connections that will lead to future job(s) regardless of where you end up going?

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Source: kid who graduated in 2009 and has worked as a paralegal at NYC big law firms that have told me to come back when I'm a 2L to talk to them.

lol @ you lecturing people on the strength of your sweet paralegal gig

if you go back as a 2L w/o the grades they won't give a shit about you, they just want you to remember them fondly in case you turn out to be a baller candidate

[tyro]

Here's an interesting idea: maybe try to work and get experience in the real world before law school and build connections that will lead to future job(s) regardless of where you end up going?

It wasn't a suggestion really, just a "hey, what did you expect?" kinda thing. I get fed up with people that think that a JD miraculously changes the rules of the working world where experience and results trump most fancy degrees. I'm sorry but honestly, people need to stop telling kids that the key to a good job is having the best numbers. /tirade

Source: kid who graduated in 2009 and has worked as a paralegal at NYC big law firms that have told me to come back when I'm a 2L to talk to them.

Most connections people make in any industry won't lead to a full time legal job offer, this includes being a paralegal.

You don't really need actual data before saying that the majority of lower-level workers in this (or any other) industry will not end up in much more prestigious positions in that same industry down the road.

[Anonymous User]

What is a TT, TTT, TTTTs?

[tfer2222]

What is a TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Was anon used out of embarrassment for being a huge tls n00b?

second tier, third tier toilet, and fourth tier (reference to school rankings)

[Anonymous User]

Is second tier - non top 100?

[Anonymous User]

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[tfer2222]

Is second tier - non top 100?

tiers are typically in 50's. T1- top 50. TT- 50-100

and for Further Questions ......

[reverendt]

I just graduated from a TT in May. Top 30% (roughly...they don't rank), journal, publication, and no real job. I work 3 days a week as a law clerk for the same small firm where I've been since 2L, but it's basically a solo shop so they don't need an attorney. I've got some small firm and clerkship applications out there....but it's bad. Worse comes to worse I'm gonna keep clerking where I am and start picking up a few clients on my own...DUIs and stuff.

[Void]

I just graduated from a TT in May. Top 30% (roughly...they don't rank), journal, publication, and no real job. I work 3 days a week as a law clerk for the same small firm where I've been since 2L, but it's basically a solo shop so they don't need an attorney. I've got some small firm and clerkship applications out there....but it's bad. Worse comes to worse I'm gonna keep clerking where I am and start picking up a few clients on my own...DUIs and stuff.

What does your income look like right now? Obviously you don't have to answer this if you don't want to.

[Anonymous User]

To people that have parents or something that will loan them some advertisement money: I dont understand why you dont just open your own firm, advertise in all the right places, and there you go. Sure it might be slow in the beginning, but thats business.

[Julio_El_Chavo]

To people that have parents or something that will loan them some advertisement money: I dont understand why you dont just open your own firm, advertise in all the right places, and there you go. Sure it might be slow in the beginning, but thats business.

I know a solo practitioner who has been practicing for about 5 years on his own and he's barely keeping his head above water. It's rough out there, even if you have experience.

[Void]

To people that have parents or something that will loan them some advertisement money: I dont understand why you dont just open your own firm, advertise in all the right places, and there you go. Sure it might be slow in the beginning, but thats business.

Clearly, this anonymous poster knows all about business.
Step 1: Get loaned some advertising money from parents, or something.
Step 2: Advertise in all the right places.
Step 3: There you go.

[rayiner]

To people that have parents or something that will loan them some advertisement money: I dont understand why you dont just open your own firm, advertise in all the right places, and there you go. Sure it might be slow in the beginning, but thats business.

Clearly, this anonymous poster knows all about business.
Step 1: Get loaned some advertising money from parents, or something.
Step 2: Advertise in all the right places.
Step 3: There you go.

LOL.

[Anonymous User]

To people that have parents or something that will loan them some advertisement money: I dont understand why you dont just open your own firm, advertise in all the right places, and there you go. Sure it might be slow in the beginning, but thats business.

Clearly, this anonymous poster knows all about business.
Step 1: Get loaned some advertising money from parents, or something.
Step 2: Advertise in all the right places.
Step 3: There you go.

A law practice is the easiest business to open. With the correct knowledge and access to the search engine optimization, knowledge of how to market/advertise, anyone could be successful.

I know 8 EXTREMELY successful lawyers. 7 who opened their own firm, 1 BigLaw Associate. Out of those 8 people, the BigLaw Associate is the least successful.

[kahechsof]

Here's an interesting idea: maybe try to work and get experience in the real world before law school and build connections that will lead to future job(s) regardless of where you end up going?

...

Source: kid who graduated in 2009 and has worked as a paralegal at NYC big law firms that have told me to come back when I'm a 2L to talk to them.

lol @ you lecturing people on the strength of your sweet paralegal gig

if you go back as a 2L w/o the grades they won't give a shit about you, they just want you to remember them fondly in case you turn out to be a baller candidate

this

It will probably get you a screener, but don't expect any serious weight to be pulled, unless you have the serious numbers.