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Did I screw myself for this OCI sesison?
I'm a 2L at a top 25 school. My grades are average, but I'm on the law review staff. I have several years of good work experience in addition to clerking last summer at a small law firm in my area. I have just completed my first round of OCI interviews and so far it hasn't gone well.
My first interviews were with NLJ250 firms in my town. I was rejected by both after the initial OCI. My final interview was today with a mid-sized (50 attorneys) firm. I have a networking connection with one of the named partners at said firm. Nevertheless, I fear the worst.
I showed up to the law school at about four minutes prior to my interview time (mistake 1). I'm a bit (okay, a lot) out of shape. Despite this, I managed to sprint my way up the stairs to the second floor where the interview took place. This was quite entertaining to the group of 1L's receiving a library tour, I'm sure. Just before rounding the corner to my interview room, I stopped to tuck in the front of my shirt (mistake 2, since I'm not sure I fully succeeded). I arrived at the room slightly out of breath and with the slightest hint of forehead sweat (mistake 3).
During the interview, I found myself unable to achieve my usual pleasant intonation. Inadvertently I spoke rather rapidly when answering questions. During one question, I found myself unable to recall the last name of an attorney I had worked with, although I successfully prattled off several others (mistake 4). The interview ended about five minutes before it was supposed to, and because both interviewers stood up to shake hands at the same time, I didn't make the most graceful exit (unable to decide which hand to shake first - mistake 5).
Am I screwed? If so, is there hope for finding employment this summer?
My first interviews were with NLJ250 firms in my town. I was rejected by both after the initial OCI. My final interview was today with a mid-sized (50 attorneys) firm. I have a networking connection with one of the named partners at said firm. Nevertheless, I fear the worst.
I showed up to the law school at about four minutes prior to my interview time (mistake 1). I'm a bit (okay, a lot) out of shape. Despite this, I managed to sprint my way up the stairs to the second floor where the interview took place. This was quite entertaining to the group of 1L's receiving a library tour, I'm sure. Just before rounding the corner to my interview room, I stopped to tuck in the front of my shirt (mistake 2, since I'm not sure I fully succeeded). I arrived at the room slightly out of breath and with the slightest hint of forehead sweat (mistake 3).
During the interview, I found myself unable to achieve my usual pleasant intonation. Inadvertently I spoke rather rapidly when answering questions. During one question, I found myself unable to recall the last name of an attorney I had worked with, although I successfully prattled off several others (mistake 4). The interview ended about five minutes before it was supposed to, and because both interviewers stood up to shake hands at the same time, I didn't make the most graceful exit (unable to decide which hand to shake first - mistake 5).
Am I screwed? If so, is there hope for finding employment this summer?
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Re: Did I screw myself for this OCI sesison?
Haha! Chalk it up to a bad day (and an entertaining one, in hindsight), boss, and keep on truckin' through the job search process.
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Anonymous User wrote:I'm a 2L at a top 25 school. My grades are average, but I'm on the law review staff. I have several years of good work experience in addition to clerking last summer at a small law firm in my area. I have just completed my first round of OCI interviews and so far it hasn't gone well.
My first interviews were with NLJ250 firms in my town. I was rejected by both after the initial OCI. My final interview was today with a mid-sized (50 attorneys) firm. I have a networking connection with one of the named partners at said firm. Nevertheless, I fear the worst.
I showed up to the law school at about four minutes prior to my interview time (mistake 1). I'm a bit (okay, a lot) out of shape. Despite this, I managed to sprint my way up the stairs to the second floor where the interview took place. This was quite entertaining to the group of 1L's receiving a library tour, I'm sure. Just before rounding the corner to my interview room, I stopped to tuck in the front of my shirt (mistake 2, since I'm not sure I fully succeeded). I arrived at the room slightly out of breath and with the slightest hint of forehead sweat (mistake 3).
During the interview, I found myself unable to achieve my usual pleasant intonation. Inadvertently I spoke rather rapidly when answering questions. During one question, I found myself unable to recall the last name of an attorney I had worked with, although I successfully prattled off several others (mistake 4). The interview ended about five minutes before it was supposed to, and because both interviewers stood up to shake hands at the same time, I didn't make the most graceful exit (unable to decide which hand to shake first - mistake 5).
Am I screwed? If so, is there hope for finding employment this summer?
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Re: Did I screw myself for this OCI sesison?
This made me laugh (apologies). I'm in good shape, and have also walked into a room out of breath only to immediately be thrown into a conversation and look like a dolt. Definitely always arrive early. Haven't you heard the saying, "If you're early, you're on time; if you're on time, you're late; if you're late, don't even bother showing up"?
Anyways, chin up. At least you're aware of your follies and can correct them next time.
Anyways, chin up. At least you're aware of your follies and can correct them next time.
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Re: Did I screw myself for this OCI sesison?
He can correct his follies at his next OCI seasonholdencaulfield wrote:This made me laugh (apologies). I'm in good shape, and have also walked into a room out of breath only to immediately be thrown into a conversation and look like a dolt. Definitely always arrive early. Haven't you heard the saying, "If you're early, you're on time; if you're on time, you're late; if you're late, don't even bother showing up"?
Anyways, chin up. At least you're aware of your follies and can correct them next time.
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Re: Did I screw myself for this OCI sesison?
Hopefully it was just one session/interview that this happened at.BackToTheOldHouse wrote:He can correct his follies at his next OCI seasonholdencaulfield wrote:This made me laugh (apologies). I'm in good shape, and have also walked into a room out of breath only to immediately be thrown into a conversation and look like a dolt. Definitely always arrive early. Haven't you heard the saying, "If you're early, you're on time; if you're on time, you're late; if you're late, don't even bother showing up"?
Anyways, chin up. At least you're aware of your follies and can correct them next time.?
OP, as you probably already know it isn't looking too good for you at this one office (unless your grades are really outstanding or something).
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You also never know. You always feel like more of a moron when you're the one screwing up. Other people often don't think twice about things like this. I know I've gotten job offers at some of the interviews that I felt went poorly and didn't get jobs where I thought I killed the interview; it's impossible to tell what individual people will like about you or not.
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True enough. In retrospect, perhaps it didn't go too badly. I have strong networking ties (some of the firm's commercial clients) at work whispering good things to the partners at this firm, so perhaps that will compensate . . .
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Re: Did I screw myself for this OCI sesison?
i honestly think i may have seen this/you lol I was sitting at a table looking up to the interview rooms at the back of the 2nd story of our library? midwestern t25?
hope it came off better than you thought man
hope it came off better than you thought man
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Re: Did I screw myself for this OCI sesison?
BackToTheOldHouse wrote:He can correct his follies at his next OCI seasonholdencaulfield wrote:This made me laugh (apologies). I'm in good shape, and have also walked into a room out of breath only to immediately be thrown into a conversation and look like a dolt. Definitely always arrive early. Haven't you heard the saying, "If you're early, you're on time; if you're on time, you're late; if you're late, don't even bother showing up"?
Anyways, chin up. At least you're aware of your follies and can correct them next time.?
As far as I know, 2L OCI is not the last opportunity to get an interview.
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For biglaw, it pretty much is, based on what TLS says. But, I never know what to believe around here.
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Re: Did I screw myself for this OCI sesison?
What are the options?holdencaulfield wrote: As far as I know, 2L OCI is not the last opportunity to get an interview.
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Re: Did I screw myself for this OCI sesison?
holdencaulfield wrote: As far as I know, 2L OCI is not the last opportunity to get an interview.
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What are the options?
This is the type mindset that results in graduating with no job lined up.
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What are the options?[/quote]holdencaulfield wrote:As far as I know, 2L OCI is not the last opportunity to get an interview.Anonymous User wrote:
This is the type mindset that results in graduating with no job lined up.[/quote]
How does trying to figure out options to land a job result in not having a job lined up?
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I ran up double digit flights of steps to a screener and was literally dripping sweat during it, so I feel for you OP. In hindsight I wish I would have just taken the elevator and been a couple minutes late but more composed.
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Because you are wasting your time looking for something that doesn't exist. See parable of lady looking for coin she dropped in the shadows in the sunny area, because it's brighter there.Anonymous User wrote:holdencaulfield wrote:As far as I know, 2L OCI is not the last opportunity to get an interview.Anonymous User wrote:
What are the options?
This is the type mindset that results in graduating with no job lined up.
How does trying to figure out options to land a job result in not having a job lined up?
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Anonymous User wrote:Because you are wasting your time looking for something that doesn't exist. See parable of lady looking for coin she dropped in the shadows in the sunny area, because it's brighter there.Anonymous User wrote:holdencaulfield wrote:As far as I know, 2L OCI is not the last opportunity to get an interview.Anonymous User wrote:
What are the options?
This is the type mindset that results in graduating with no job lined up.
How does trying to figure out options to land a job result in not having a job lined up?
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Did you get the callback or is it too early to tell?Anonymous User wrote:I ran up double digit flights of steps to a screener and was literally dripping sweat during it, so I feel for you OP. In hindsight I wish I would have just taken the elevator and been a couple minutes late but more composed.
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The act of looking for it doesn't ensure that you won't find it. It just means that you are looking in the wrong place. Here, I'm not looking in the wrong place, I'm looking everywhere. However, if it doesn't exist, it doesn't exist. Looking doesn't ensure failure, inevitability of failure ensures failure.Anonymous User wrote:Because you are wasting your time looking for something that doesn't exist. See parable of lady looking for coin she dropped in the shadows in the sunny area, because it's brighter there.Anonymous User wrote:holdencaulfield wrote:As far as I know, 2L OCI is not the last opportunity to get an interview.Anonymous User wrote:
What are the options?
This is the type mindset that results in graduating with no job lined up.
How does trying to figure out options to land a job result in not having a job lined up?
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Failure not inev. bc there is an alt to looking. Alt is drop out. Do something else, other than looking for legal jobs that don't exist.Anonymous User wrote:
The act of looking for it doesn't ensure that you won't find it. It just means that you are looking in the wrong place. Here, I'm not looking in the wrong place, I'm looking everywhere. However, if it doesn't exist, it doesn't exist. Looking doesn't ensure failure, inevitability of failure ensures failure.
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No callback for the sweating one. Did get a CB when I was 4 minutes late to the screener.Anonymous User wrote:Did you get the callback or is it too early to tell?Anonymous User wrote:I ran up double digit flights of steps to a screener and was literally dripping sweat during it, so I feel for you OP. In hindsight I wish I would have just taken the elevator and been a couple minutes late but more composed.
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