Could getting and turning down offer for SA possibly help... Forum
Forum rules
Anonymous Posting
Anonymous posting is only appropriate when you are revealing sensitive employment related information about a firm, job, etc. You may anonymously respond on topic to these threads. Unacceptable uses include: harassing another user, joking around, testing the feature, or other things that are more appropriate in the lounge.
Failure to follow these rules will get you outed, warned, or banned.
Anonymous Posting
Anonymous posting is only appropriate when you are revealing sensitive employment related information about a firm, job, etc. You may anonymously respond on topic to these threads. Unacceptable uses include: harassing another user, joking around, testing the feature, or other things that are more appropriate in the lounge.
Failure to follow these rules will get you outed, warned, or banned.
-
- Posts: 432574
- Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am
Could getting and turning down offer for SA possibly help...
...with lateraling to the same firm in a couple of years, or even for 3L interview with them next fall?
As in "hey, remember me from last year? You offered me a position (here is the offer letter) but I turned it down because I just HAD to be in this other city at the time. But now I am ready to live here. If I was good 'nuff for you then, I'm sure I'm good 'nuff for you now! What do you say?"
I am serious. I have accepted an offer for SA at a great firm. This other firm extended me a CB the day after that. The offer I accepted is better for me right now, but in a couple of years I could very well see myself at this other firm. Is it worth attending the CB in the hope of securing an offer purely for this purpose (or in case I get no-offered, or hate my firm next summer?).
As in "hey, remember me from last year? You offered me a position (here is the offer letter) but I turned it down because I just HAD to be in this other city at the time. But now I am ready to live here. If I was good 'nuff for you then, I'm sure I'm good 'nuff for you now! What do you say?"
I am serious. I have accepted an offer for SA at a great firm. This other firm extended me a CB the day after that. The offer I accepted is better for me right now, but in a couple of years I could very well see myself at this other firm. Is it worth attending the CB in the hope of securing an offer purely for this purpose (or in case I get no-offered, or hate my firm next summer?).
- JollyGreenGiant
- Posts: 995
- Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:12 pm
Re: Could getting and turning down offer for SA possibly help...
This sounds like a bad idea. You gotta realize that partners and associates are taking time out of their day to meet with you for a summer associate position when you have no intention of working there. That + reimbursing expenses (such as them getting you a hotel or airfare) = a firm that's unhappy with you.
Not to mention that taking a CB slot and an offer that you have no intention of accepting is an extremely dick move to your fellow classmates and peers.
Not to mention that taking a CB slot and an offer that you have no intention of accepting is an extremely dick move to your fellow classmates and peers.
Last edited by JollyGreenGiant on Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
-
- Posts: 432574
- Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am
Re: Could getting and turning down offer for SA possibly help...
It appears you are suggesting that you've already accepted an offer, and you are considering moving forward with another application by going on a callback, in the hopes of securing another offer, which you will turn down because you had long ago accepted a previous offer.
Yea... don't do that.
Yea... don't do that.
- sunynp
- Posts: 1875
- Joined: Tue May 24, 2011 2:06 pm
Re: Could getting and turning down offer for SA possibly help...
You don't seem to consider the possibility that the second firm, who you may want to work for some day, won't give you an offer. And if you get an offer from the second firm, you plan to turn it down. Plus they may find out you had already accepted an offer and were wasting their time. How will this possibly help you to have a better future for lateraling to that firm someday?
-
- Posts: 40
- Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:57 am
Re: Could getting and turning down offer for SA possibly help...
This has to be explicitly banned by NALP or your law school. You cannot go on another interview after you've accepted an offer.
Want to continue reading?
Register now to search topics and post comments!
Absolutely FREE!
Already a member? Login
-
- Posts: 432574
- Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am
Re: Could getting and turning down offer for SA possibly help...
OP here. I greatly appreciate the responses, but most of them are somewhat off-topic. I am well aware of the ethical issues. My question is whether the scenario I outlined would help. To that end:
All that said, my original question remains. Can someone please provide an answer?
Very good point. In that case, getting rejected post-CB would definitely foreclose future possibility of employment there, at least in the medium term (and most certainly for next fall).You don't seem to consider the possibility that the second firm, who you may want to work for some day, won't give you an offer.
All that said, my original question remains. Can someone please provide an answer?
- blurbz
- Posts: 1241
- Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:43 pm
Re: Could getting and turning down offer for SA possibly help...
Why would a firm you rejected to move to another city want to offer you a job again? Especially given how important ties are.... No, it won't help.
-
- Posts: 432574
- Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am
Re: Could getting and turning down offer for SA possibly help...
Lawyers...Anonymous User wrote:OP here. I greatly appreciate the responses, but most of them are somewhat off-topic. I am well aware of the ethical issues. My question is whether the scenario I outlined would help. To that end:Very good point. In that case, getting rejected post-CB would definitely foreclose future possibility of employment there, at least in the medium term (and most certainly for next fall).You don't seem to consider the possibility that the second firm, who you may want to work for some day, won't give you an offer.
All that said, my original question remains. Can someone please provide an answer?
-
- Posts: 1610
- Joined: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:08 pm
Re: Could getting and turning down offer for SA possibly help...
Is this flame? Your SA offer doesnt guarantee anything nor does it have any meaning with regards to hiring you as a midlevel associate.
- rayiner
- Posts: 6145
- Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:43 am
Re: Could getting and turning down offer for SA possibly help...
Eh. Firms that needed 3L's called up some people this year who turned them down for SA positions to see if they were interested in coming on full-time at graduation. Firms would much rather go to people they already like than to 3L OCI.
- rayiner
- Posts: 6145
- Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:43 am
Re: Could getting and turning down offer for SA possibly help...
Seriously, though, if you have to live in NYC but don't like the whole "NYC thing", Financial District and Murray Hill/Kips Bay are TCR. Seriously consider White Plains if you don't already have a circle of friends in the city.
Register now!
Resources to assist law school applicants, students & graduates.
It's still FREE!
Already a member? Login