top 25% at UNC rising 2L -- prospects of paid 2L summer? Forum

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:06 pm

I have around a 3.6 and figured out top 25% by using the class rank predictor. My goal is to get a paid gig in North Carolina for my 2L summer. Any chance at getting anything through OCI, even with a North Carolina firm? Any other advice?

Journal selections have not been made, but most likely I'll be on a secondary journal.

Thanks for the input!

ndirish2010 · Post by **ndirish2010** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:22 pm

3.6 is only top quarter at Carolina?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:24 pm

yeah, 3.48 is top 33% and 3.80 is top 10%

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:49 pm

Similar nautical vessels w/r/t class rank and school rank, but in the midwest versus the southeast (but with ties to SE). Any thoughts as to either regions appreciated.

lawhawk · Post by **lawhawk** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:34 am

I'm in about the exact same spot at UNC, so here is a shameless bump.

We have somewhere around 60-70 firms coming to OCI this year.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:48 am

What do you guys think about the ridiculous curve at UNC?

I haven't gone through the whole firm list yet, but it seems like a fair number of firms have top 1/3 cut-offs. From my limited 1L interviewing experience, most firms put a high priority on ties to the area. According to career services, it's still an uphill battle for people within the top 1/3.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:59 am

What is the low-down on the NC firms? I am sitting a little better than top third but would like some thoughts on--

Robinson Bradshaw
Parker Poe
Moore & Van Allen
Wyrick
K & L Gates

Any I am obviously missing? I want either Raleigh or Charlotte doesn't matter.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:35 pm

Anonymous User wrote:What is the low-down on the NC firms? I am sitting a little better than top third but would like some thoughts on--

Robinson Bradshaw
Parker Poe
Moore & Van Allen
Wyrick
K & L Gates

Any I am obviously missing? I want either Raleigh or Charlotte doesn't matter.

unless nc firms treat wake students differently, you will have a very hard time getting any of those firms. I'm inside top 25% and a minority at wake and those are my reaches.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:01 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What is the low-down on the NC firms? I am sitting a little better than top third but would like some thoughts on--

Robinson Bradshaw
Parker Poe
Moore & Van Allen
Wyrick
K & L Gates

Any I am obviously missing? I want either Raleigh or Charlotte doesn't matter.
unless nc firms treat wake students differently, you will have a very hard time getting any of those firms. I'm inside top 25% and a minority at wake and those are my reaches.

This is spot on. Didn't UNC place something like 12% into NLJ250 for the class of 2010? I know things are different now, maybe marginally better, but still...you've got a tought fight on your hands if these are your targets.

I'd canvas the shit out of every NC firm you can find on martindale that has between a dozen and fifty lawyers.

Edit: Not to be mean, but I'd completely forget about K&L Gates, and MVA, Parker Poe, and Robsinson Bradshaw are almost certainly out of reach also. You might have a hail mary shot at Wyrick and places like Hedrick Gardner (if you're big into employment law). Best of luck.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:01 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What is the low-down on the NC firms? I am sitting a little better than top third but would like some thoughts on--

Robinson Bradshaw
Parker Poe
Moore & Van Allen
Wyrick
K & L Gates

Any I am obviously missing? I want either Raleigh or Charlotte doesn't matter.
unless nc firms treat wake students differently, you will have a very hard time getting any of those firms. I'm inside top 25% and a minority at wake and those are my reaches.

What is considered the usual power rankings of the NC firms? If there was a Vault ranking for NC?

IrwinM.Fletcher · Post by **IrwinM.Fletcher** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:06 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What is the low-down on the NC firms? I am sitting a little better than top third but would like some thoughts on--

Robinson Bradshaw
Parker Poe
Moore & Van Allen
Wyrick
K & L Gates

Any I am obviously missing? I want either Raleigh or Charlotte doesn't matter.
unless nc firms treat wake students differently, you will have a very hard time getting any of those firms. I'm inside top 25% and a minority at wake and those are my reaches.
What is considered the usual power rankings of the NC firms? If there was a Vault ranking for NC?

Chambers & Partners will give you a good idea for what firms are strongest in certain practice areas. That's the best place to start.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:11 pm

you can throw smith anderson and brooks pierce among the elite, but again, top 1/3 isnt likely to cut it. My guess top 15% and a journal or top 20% and LR are needed just to get an interview. To get a feel of what type of people from your school NC firms hire, check out a firm's attorney page to see the credentials.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:40 pm

Looks like NC biglaw is a tough cookie to crack, even from Duke and Virginia (although I am not sure if this is because most Duke and Virginia people don't want to end up there).

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:54 am

Am shocked none of the above posters/OP has asked/told this: What kind of practice are you interested in? Can you probably get this 2L summer gig? Maybe. But to have a better idea of firms to target, this would be helpful.

Also, I wouldn't completely run an "OCI or bust" mentality, especially ITE. There are a bunch of other (recent) threads for non-OCI strategies.

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