UVa OGI 2011 thread Forum

[joemoviebuff]

First anon from pg 24.
GPA is 3.54 (~top 20%), straight from UG.

15 PS (13 NY, 1 DC, 1 secondary)
12 alts (8 NY, 3 DC, 1 secondary)

Bid 40 NYC, 7 DC, and 3 secondary. Still waiting on 4 NY, 2 DC, 1 secondary.

Freaky. I'm a number's twin - also a 3.54.

16 PS (14 NY, 2 CA)
4 Alts (3 NY, 1 CA)

What kind of ties to California do you have? PM if you want.

[Anonymous User]

First anon from pg 24.
GPA is 3.54 (~top 20%), straight from UG.

15 PS (13 NY, 1 DC, 1 secondary)
12 alts (8 NY, 3 DC, 1 secondary)

Bid 40 NYC, 7 DC, and 3 secondary. Still waiting on 4 NY, 2 DC, 1 secondary.

Freaky. I'm a number's twin - also a 3.54.

16 PS (14 NY, 2 CA)
4 Alts (3 NY, 1 CA)

What kind of ties to California do you have? PM if you want.

None that are apparent from my resume, and none of the places which preselected/alternated me required a cover letter. I bid on 8 CA offices in total, and 1 of them, Latham, I don't think anyone's heard from yet.

[Anonymous User]

lathams out (ny at least)

[Anonymous User]

lathams out (ny at least)

Well, damn. I'm going to preemptively reject them and their Latham'ing ways. I never wanted to work there anyway. Unless they give me a late preselect.

[Anonymous User]

lathams out (ny at least)

stats?

[Anonymous User]

One of the many roughly ~ 3.59'ers

[Anonymous User]

lathams out (ny at least)

stats?

3.5, preselected.

[Anonymous User]

anyone know if latham dc is out too?

[Anonymous User]

Anyone get a Latham California office pre-select?

[Anonymous User]

What kind of ties to California do you have? PM if you want.

None that are apparent from my resume, and none of the places which preselected/alternated me required a cover letter. I bid on 8 CA offices in total, and 1 of them, Latham, I don't think anyone's heard from yet.

Update, I'm preselected at a Latham CA office as well, with an alternate at Cooley. I take back what I said about the Lathaming. So far I'm 3/8 on preselects for CA with 2 alternates, at 3.54.

[Anonymous User]

how's median doing? Myself and at least one other anon poster in this thread have reported 0 preselects (i am slightly below median though). There was that one bottom 10% guy who had a surprising number of preselects.

anyone at median or below with better results?

kinda sucks to rely only on interviews we have to force our way into. Plus there's the randomness factor inherent of the lottery, if you're relying solely on lottery for an interview, you could still get completely fucked. I'm gonna mass mail for sure, have already begun doing so. not sure if i want to drop out yet, i am also sending out feelers to anyone who could possibly get me a job in a different field.

anyone know how tuition refunds work? I believe we can receive a tuition refund if we decide to drop out before it gets too far into the semester. not sure how much time we have, anyone know?

[Anonymous User]

From my bids and the way I've heard things. DC was an absolute cakewalk compared to NY. I feel bad for all the people who wanted DC but bid NY because they thought they should. They got hammered and would have done a lot better just sticking with their guns.

[Anonymous User]

Latham DC is out, fyi.

[Anonymous User]

From my bids and the way I've heard things. DC was an absolute cakewalk compared to NY. I feel bad for all the people who wanted DC but bid NY because they thought they should. They got hammered and would have done a lot better just sticking with their guns.

I'd estimate that 60-70% of people who bid NYC had very little interest in actually working there, which sucks for those of us who actually wanted to work there, but does bode well when all those 20+ preselect people start declining interviews.

[Anonymous User]

From my bids and the way I've heard things. DC was an absolute cakewalk compared to NY. I feel bad for all the people who wanted DC but bid NY because they thought they should. They got hammered and would have done a lot better just sticking with their guns.

Everyone in this thread needs to stop drawing conclusions about OGI this early in the game. The numbers publicly reported on this thread make sense except for a few outliers. As an example, a friend of mine last year right at median got a single interview from NYC via preselect. Welcome to UVA, the preselect process is a huge feast or famine. Been like that for a while, for better or for worse, but it doesn't support the 'NYC apocalypse' mentality flying around. It is a chaotic process, so expect outliers (bottom 10% and lots of preselects, top 25% and very few, it happens every year). I also have yet to see anybody posting abundant success in DC - but even if they are at this point in the process, it's meaningless.

Last year, the interview -> callback and callback -> offer ratio for DC was abysmally low compared to NYC, across the board, and that's not something that will change year to year based on student bidding preferences.

I'm a good example: I split almost completely evenly between NYC and DC at the interview stage. I converted ~80% of my NYC interviews into callbacks and ~80% of my NYC callbacks into offers.

DC? Half that, easy, at each stage. And I had the background and the ties.

A single anecdote isn't that useful; the numbers I quoted here won't match for everyone. But the general trend absolutely did: DC is and will always be a harder market to get a big firm job in than NYC, and the early results of the preselect phase do not change that.

The anti-NYC hysteria in this thread, which appears thoroughly rebutted in recent posts, needs to calm down. It's a stressful time but nobody has all of the data and it doesn't help to run around screaming, suggesting nobody ever attend this school, shaking your fist at all those FOOLS who didn't even want NYC that bid it, and making up shit about how suddenly DC is a cake walk despite the fact that it's always been a smaller and more selective market than NYC.

[Anonymous User]

Bottom Third
6 preselects
3 Alternates

[Anonymous User]

Bottom Third
6 preselects
3 Alternates

Markets, WE, URM, etc.

[vanwinkle]

I miss me some Christian's Pizza anyway. It's not that it's great, it's just that I can't get pizza like that anywhere else.

Noch's >>> Christian's

I don't even know what Noch's is. I obviously missed something while I was living there.

[Anonymous User]

Bottom 10-15%

8 preselects
2 alts

[Anonymous User]

Bottom 10-15%

8 preselects
2 alts

Markets, WE, URM, etc.

[Anonymous User]

Top 15%, 2 years WE

27 preselects (12 DC/9 TX/3 Boston/3 NYC)
12 alternates (6 DC/3 Chicago/2 NYC)

[Anonymous User]

Shnarf.

[Anonymous User]

Shnarf.


Same poster as above. Don't forget that people get way less interviews this year, so way more interviews will be thrown back to you all through the lottery.

Stop hating on UVA. 99% of you were popping boners about the school 'til about 12 hours ago. OCS doesn't control the firms. Nor do they control what you do with your time in between undergrad and law school, or how well you do your first year.

I think you guys who are freaking out are going to be totally fine.

[Anonymous User]

if i'm an alternate at 2 of my top 5 bids, its better to accept the alternate and then S/R if i dont get it than to decline and shoot for a lottery pick, right? currently at 8 preselect, 10 alternate

[Anonymous User]

if i'm an alternate at 2 of my top 5 bids, its better to accept the alternate and then S/R if i dont get it than to decline and shoot for a lottery pick, right? currently at 8 preselect, 10 alternate

Asked KD the same question earlier today, he said "Alternates are fully eligible for the lottery. Thanks for checking the handbook first. I thought it was in there, but it is a big handbook and maybe that point didn’t make it in. I would accept them."