Mich OCI 2011 Forum

[Anonymous User]

Any White & Case NYC offers?

Bump. Any W&C New York offers? I heard there were a few Michigan call backs...

I got dinged via email after the cb. I thought the interview went really well. No idea what the problem is. I also got dinged by another very similar firm. Although I have 5 more firms to hear from, 3 of them have kept me waiting for more than a week. I am seriously worried about striking out now.

How long after your CB did they ding you?

[Anonymous User]

Any DPW offers yet?

Yeah, I got an offer 2 days ago (interviewed 3 days ago). NY.

[Anonymous User]

How many others are still offer'less? I have had 6 CBs (DC), 2 last week and 4 week before...and so far 2 dings out of first 4 and silence on rest.

[Anonymous User]

1 callback. 1 offer. Winning!

[Anonymous User]

1 callback. 1 offer. Winning!

congrats! which firm? (or at least, which market?)

[Anonymous User]

1 callback. 1 offer. Winning!

hahahaha same actually

[Anonymous User]

How many others are still offer'less? I have had 6 CBs (DC), 2 last week and 4 week before...and so far 2 dings out of first 4 and silence on rest.

same here. 7 cbs (mostly nyc). 3 rejections and 4 silence. time to panic?

[Anonymous User]

Any White & Case NYC offers?

Bump. Any W&C New York offers? I heard there were a few Michigan call backs...

I got dinged via email after the cb. I thought the interview went really well. No idea what the problem is. I also got dinged by another very similar firm. Although I have 5 more firms to hear from, 3 of them have kept me waiting for more than a week. I am seriously worried about striking out now.

How long after your CB did they ding you?

within a week

[existenz]

How many others are still offer'less? I have had 6 CBs (DC), 2 last week and 4 week before...and so far 2 dings out of first 4 and silence on rest.

same here. 7 cbs (mostly nyc). 3 rejections and 4 silence. time to panic?

Wait until you have 7 rejections before hitting the panic button.

I think because Michigan had one of the latest OCIs, a lot of people are on hold until firms sort out how many of their previous offerees are actually coming.

[Anonymous User]

How many others are still offer'less? I have had 6 CBs (DC), 2 last week and 4 week before...and so far 2 dings out of first 4 and silence on rest.

same here. 7 cbs (mostly nyc). 3 rejections and 4 silence. time to panic?

Wait until you have 7 rejections before hitting the panic button.

I think because Michigan had one of the latest OCIs, a lot of people are on hold until firms sort out how many of their previous offerees are actually coming.

This plus the fact that firms prefer NYC schools anyway. Sucks for people who are not at the very top of the class. Is the market going to be cold when you wait until you get all the rejections?

[existenz]

Is the market going to be cold when you wait until you get all the rejections?

Well, probably not a good idea to sit around and do nothing if you don't have an offer yet. I can't speak to how cold any market is after September, but common sense says it will be tough. Plenty of 2Ls get their summer jobs in late fall and winter, it just takes hustling.

[Anonymous User]

I get the sense that our school hasn't fared so well during this OCI season. Maybe it's because our EIW starts later, or maybe it's something else. I've done okay so far, but I know a lot of people who are struggling. Anyone else get a similar sense?

[Anonymous User]

I get the sense that our school hasn't fared so well during this OCI season. Maybe it's because our EIW starts later, or maybe it's something else. I've done okay so far, but I know a lot of people who are struggling. Anyone else get a similar sense?

I've got the opposite sense, actually. Most people I know have offers. Really hard to form a general picture when you only have a select group of acquaintances.

I have top grades and didn't fare so well though.

[Anonymous User]

I get the sense that our school hasn't fared so well during this OCI season. Maybe it's because our EIW starts later, or maybe it's something else. I've done okay so far, but I know a lot of people who are struggling. Anyone else get a similar sense?

I've got the opposite sense, actually. Most people I know have offers. Really hard to form a general picture when you only have a select group of acquaintances.

I have top grades and didn't fare so well though.

I got the sense that Michigan did well. Very few people at the "I'm fucked and have no offers yet, please help!" session last week. You figure the room would be a lot more full of "so far" strike-outs if there was a huge problem of some sort.

I also talked to a whole bunch of people a few weeks ago who were 100% Public Interest and didn't even do OCI (and looked at me like I had five heads because I did ).

[Anonymous User]

I have top grades and didn't fare so well though.

"So well" in what sense? The number of offers, the quality of offers?

[Anonymous User]

any clifford chance offers yet? it's been over a week since cb for me...

[Anonymous User]

I have top grades and didn't fare so well though.

"So well" in what sense? The number of offers, the quality of offers?

Not the anon quoted, but if he does reply, I'm guessing he's going to say something like "Only 5-7 callbacks and my best offer was only from a V25" and then from there, everybody without top grades is going to whine that he should be happy with what he has, etc., entitled, etc., etc. That's the way these things always go.

[Anonymous User]

I have top grades and didn't fare so well though.

"So well" in what sense? The number of offers, the quality of offers?

Not the anon quoted, but if he does reply, I'm guessing he's going to say something like "Only 5-7 callbacks and my best offer was only from a V25" and then from there, everybody without top grades is going to whine that he should be happy with what he has, etc., entitled, etc., etc. That's the way these things always go.

OP here, you're pretty close to being right, but I'll add as a caveat that most of my CBs came through mailing. I don't think it's Michigan's fault at all; I just had bad interview strategy.

[Anonymous User]

OP here, you're pretty close to being right, but I'll add as a caveat that most of my CBs came through mailing. I don't think it's Michigan's fault at all; I just had bad interview strategy.

+1. i'm still offer-less, but i still have 4 more CBs to go, and i'd say about 75% of my CBs came through mass mailing. again, not Michigan's fault. i had a terrible bidding strategy (smaller markets where i genuinely wanted to be, but had no ties). would've definitely bid on NYC firms more if I had the opportunity. to do it again

[existenz]

Interesting:

http://abovethelaw.com/2011/09/an-insid ... g-process/

[Anonymous User]

So...is it possible to negotiate for higher pay if you have more than one offer? Or is it possible to ask for more weeks of work, e.g. 12 weeks instead of 10? I know this is a good problem to have, but I am having trouble deciding.

[existenz]

So...is it possible to negotiate for higher pay if you have more than one offer? Or is it possible to ask for more weeks of work, e.g. 12 weeks instead of 10? I know this is a good problem to have, but I am having trouble deciding.

Most candidates at top firms have multiple offers. I have never heard of anyone negotiating higher pay or extra weeks for themselves because of that.

[Anonymous User]

So...is it possible to negotiate for higher pay if you have more than one offer? Or is it possible to ask for more weeks of work, e.g. 12 weeks instead of 10? I know this is a good problem to have, but I am having trouble deciding.

Most candidates at top firms have multiple offers. I have never heard of anyone negotiating higher pay or extra weeks for themselves because of that.

Is it just the type of thing that doesn't happen, or is it because no one has the balls to ask?

[Anonymous User]

So...is it possible to negotiate for higher pay if you have more than one offer? Or is it possible to ask for more weeks of work, e.g. 12 weeks instead of 10? I know this is a good problem to have, but I am having trouble deciding.

Most candidates at top firms have multiple offers. I have never heard of anyone negotiating higher pay or extra weeks for themselves because of that.

Is it just the type of thing that doesn't happen, or is it because no one has the balls to ask?

There are enough qualified candidates that the firms could easily tell you to fuck off about higher pay. We are not in the best bargaining position ITE. As far as extending a summer, not sure. That could maybe happen after you already start working, but I wouldn't bring it up personally before starting work.

[Anonymous User]

So...is it possible to negotiate for higher pay if you have more than one offer? Or is it possible to ask for more weeks of work, e.g. 12 weeks instead of 10? I know this is a good problem to have, but I am having trouble deciding.

Most candidates at top firms have multiple offers. I have never heard of anyone negotiating higher pay or extra weeks for themselves because of that.

Is it just the type of thing that doesn't happen, or is it because no one has the balls to ask?

It doesn't happen. Turn down the offers you're not taking (keep maybe top 2...so others can get off waitlists) then decide.

This is about the most retarded question I've ever seen asked.