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Legal Assistant/Paralegal Hiring Season
My career center had emphasized that hiring for Legal Assistant / Paralegal positions generally happens in March/April, but I'm starting to worry that I've missed the boat on a lot of these jobs. Can anyone going through the process now (or who has gone through it before) testify to when hiring generally happened? (specifically, I've applied to several v10 firms on our career site and directly on their websites)
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From what I understand, it tends to be more "we need a paralegal, lets hire one now" than have a hiring season. That being said, I don't know as much about this as I should *cough para*
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there is no hiring season. and I can't think of why on earth someone believes it would tilt toward March/April if there were one. Career centers are largely useless.
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There's a fairly high turnover rate amongst paralegals/LAs (from my experience at least), so most places pick em up as they go.
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There is a hiring season. There is an extremely high turnover rate of paralegals who leave to go to law school or for their MBA. This is when firms recruit from college campuses.
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Im about to graduate law school...do you think they hire JDs?
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I am under the impression that at the moment there are more jobs that require skilled labor than workers to fill these positions. I am seeing a lot of these types of jobs listed online, but very few that are entry level.
I would recommend legal temp agencies to gain experience if you are considering this.
I would recommend legal temp agencies to gain experience if you are considering this.
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Re: Legal Assistant/Paralegal Hiring Season
Just curious - is it common for paralegals to get an MBA? I don't get the impression that paralegal experience is comparable to other pre-MBA work experience...phonepro wrote:There is a hiring season. There is an extremely high turnover rate of paralegals who leave to go to law school or for their MBA. This is when firms recruit from college campuses.
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It was common where I worked. Everyone either went to law school or for their MBA. I don't know anything about getting an MBA, I would assume there is other work that is more beneficial. However, I worked in corporate finance group. A lot of people who never considered MBA before, did so after getting experience with financial markets, etc.Moxie wrote:Just curious - is it common for paralegals to get an MBA? I don't get the impression that paralegal experience is comparable to other pre-MBA work experience...phonepro wrote:There is a hiring season. There is an extremely high turnover rate of paralegals who leave to go to law school or for their MBA. This is when firms recruit from college campuses.
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That's funny. I know nothing about paralegals and seasons, but I just got a FB friend of a friend update about a firm looking for one. Coincidence? This is eerie.
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The common transitions are law or business. Law is much more common.Moxie wrote:Just curious - is it common for paralegals to get an MBA? I don't get the impression that paralegal experience is comparable to other pre-MBA work experience...phonepro wrote:There is a hiring season. There is an extremely high turnover rate of paralegals who leave to go to law school or for their MBA. This is when firms recruit from college campuses.
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Lots of paralegal leaving for law school starting in April, obvi.phonepro wrote:There is a hiring season. There is an extremely high turnover rate of paralegals who leave to go to law school or for their MBA. This is when firms recruit from college campuses.
There is no hiring season.
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Yes, there is. They recruit from college campuses. My firm hired a total of 8 paralegals in one group while I was there. They are hired to start in August/September. But interviewed much, much earlier. All of the top firms have a 2-year program. There is a huge overturn and its ALWAYS during the same time period.MrAnon wrote:Lots of paralegal leaving for law school starting in April, obvi.phonepro wrote:There is a hiring season. There is an extremely high turnover rate of paralegals who leave to go to law school or for their MBA. This is when firms recruit from college campuses.
There is no hiring season.
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+1 on the April/May hiring season, at least at the firm i worked for. That's how I got my legal assistant position.
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From my own personal experience of para-ing with a V10, some people were hired as needed, and some were hired around May, when people were graduating from college/when other paras were getting ready to leave before law school. It's kind a crapshoot, and all depends on hiring needs/if paralegals are leaving after their 2 years are up.
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When exactly do you mean by "much, much earlier"? The August/September turn-over makes sense to me, but I feel like there is a gap between firms who hire legal assistants/paralegals in January/February and those who don't even start the process until April/May, and I'm struggling with figuring out whether many of the V10/etc firms I've applied to aren't responding to me because they haven't even started the process yet or because I'm too late or not seen as a good candidate. And then many don't even have postings for positions online, and again, it's hard to tell whether that is because I've missed their hiring season or it just hasn't happened yet.phonepro wrote:
Yes, there is. They recruit from college campuses. My firm hired a total of 8 paralegals in one group while I was there. They are hired to start in August/September. But interviewed much, much earlier. All of the top firms have a 2-year program. There is a huge overturn and its ALWAYS during the same time period.
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I really don't think a hiring season exists for paralegals/legal assistants. Big firms hire when they want to. In general though, they start as early as Jan/Feb, even December. I started looking for jobs around mid-December and got some interviews for end of December...with other interview calls trickling in as late as end of Feb. V10 firms usually hire by march, at the latest i'd say. it doesn't make any sense for them to wait any longer.
I've also noticed ppl posting saying that one needs a paralegal certificate in order to be hired as one. I don't think this is true at all. All I know is that the top firms tend to hire ivy league grads right out of college. they work for 2 years, and then they're out.
I wouldn't worry about a hiring season. Just send in your resumes/cv's as soon as possible.
I've also noticed ppl posting saying that one needs a paralegal certificate in order to be hired as one. I don't think this is true at all. All I know is that the top firms tend to hire ivy league grads right out of college. they work for 2 years, and then they're out.
I wouldn't worry about a hiring season. Just send in your resumes/cv's as soon as possible.
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Re: Legal Assistant/Paralegal Hiring Season
There is definitely a paralegal hiring season going on now. Most submitted resumes about two months ago. Starting pay for inexperienced paralegals seems to be about $38,000-$42,000 with the smaller (non-biglaw) firms sometimes offering bonuses.
P.S. This only concerns biglaw & major DA offices. Recruiting is done at Ivies & Ivy equivalents (Georgetown, Stanford, Chicago & Northwestern are examples).
P.P.S. Also, for recent college grads travelling significant differences, be prepared to pay your own travel expenses even at the nation's top law firms.
P.S. This only concerns biglaw & major DA offices. Recruiting is done at Ivies & Ivy equivalents (Georgetown, Stanford, Chicago & Northwestern are examples).
P.P.S. Also, for recent college grads travelling significant differences, be prepared to pay your own travel expenses even at the nation's top law firms.
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You are dead wrong. I went through said hiring season two years ago. It most certainly exists. It is because most paralegals who go to law school leave their jobs in June to get ready for law school. There is a general expected turnover every year because of this, although two years ago when I did it things were rough and the turnover was down significantly. I know it wasn't MUCH better last year, but maybe this year finally things are back to normal. One paralegal hiring staff member at a V100 in NYC at the time told me that for 20 years he hired between 70 and 80 paralegals a year (no joke), but that year they had spots for 7. I did not get the job, in case you were wondering.strawboy1230 wrote: I really don't think a hiring season exists for paralegals/legal assistants.
edit: sorry this isn't supposed to be anonymous but i don't know how to redo it.
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I'm confused when you write that he hired 70 to 80 paralegals each year for 7 positions. Do you mean that he extended 70 to 80 offers for the 7 positions ?
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Anonymous User wrote:You are dead wrong. I went through said hiring season two years ago. It most certainly exists. It is because most paralegals who go to law school leave their jobs in June to get ready for law school. There is a general expected turnover every year because of this, although two years ago when I did it things were rough and the turnover was down significantly. I know it wasn't MUCH better last year, but maybe this year finally things are back to normal. One paralegal hiring staff member at a V100 in NYC at the time told me that for 20 years he hired between 70 and 80 paralegals a year (no joke), but that year they had spots for 7. I did not get the job, in case you were wondering.strawboy1230 wrote: I really don't think a hiring season exists for paralegals/legal assistants.
edit: sorry this isn't supposed to be anonymous but i don't know how to redo it.
ok... so did you read the rest of my post? or was the rest just gibberish to you?
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I was the anonymous poster, but thats not what i was saying. What i was saying is that for 20 years he had hired 70-80 paralegals a year. In 2009, the year I interviewed, he only was going to hire 7. Just reflecting how bad things were even for paralegals.CanadianWolf wrote:I'm confused when you write that he hired 70 to 80 paralegals each year for 7 positions. Do you mean that he extended 70 to 80 offers for the 7 positions ?
I interviewed at 10-15 biglaw firms. All of them said hiring was down, frozen or uncertain, except for one: Wachtell. Didn't get that one either. But was interesting enough to go there, get a tour and interview.
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my bad, only read your first paragraph and seemed to contradict itself but i got it now. you're certainly right about no need for a paralegal certificate, and CERTAINLY right about hiring ivy grads. seriously, one of the DUMBEST things i've ever seen on a job posting was for a firm paralegal position and it said something along the lines of 'qualifications: only resumes from those with ivy league degrees and a 3.6 or higher will be considered'. meaning they automatically trash resumes from stanford/williams/amherst/MIT? good move guys. also, to do paralegal work? are you serious?strawboy1230 wrote:Anonymous User wrote:You are dead wrong. I went through said hiring season two years ago. It most certainly exists. It is because most paralegals who go to law school leave their jobs in June to get ready for law school. There is a general expected turnover every year because of this, although two years ago when I did it things were rough and the turnover was down significantly. I know it wasn't MUCH better last year, but maybe this year finally things are back to normal. One paralegal hiring staff member at a V100 in NYC at the time told me that for 20 years he hired between 70 and 80 paralegals a year (no joke), but that year they had spots for 7. I did not get the job, in case you were wondering.strawboy1230 wrote: I really don't think a hiring season exists for paralegals/legal assistants.
edit: sorry this isn't supposed to be anonymous but i don't know how to redo it.
ok... so did you read the rest of my post? or was the rest just gibberish to you?
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Wow. that is really obnoxious.sanetruth wrote:'qualifications: only resumes from those with ivy league degrees and a 3.6 or higher will be considered'.strawboy1230 wrote:Anonymous User wrote:You are dead wrong. I went through said hiring season two years ago. It most certainly exists. It is because most paralegals who go to law school leave their jobs in June to get ready for law school. There is a general expected turnover every year because of this, although two years ago when I did it things were rough and the turnover was down significantly. I know it wasn't MUCH better last year, but maybe this year finally things are back to normal. One paralegal hiring staff member at a V100 in NYC at the time told me that for 20 years he hired between 70 and 80 paralegals a year (no joke), but that year they had spots for 7. I did not get the job, in case you were wondering.strawboy1230 wrote: I really don't think a hiring season exists for paralegals/legal assistants.
edit: sorry this isn't supposed to be anonymous but i don't know how to redo it.
ok... so did you read the rest of my post? or was the rest just gibberish to you?
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Yeah, I'm definitely feeling pretty behind in this process.. I applied to a bunch of the V10 in early March, heard a no from S&C, and nothing from the rest so far. For some I guess it's only been a few weeks, but if hiring really happens in March and not April, I guess I'm not in good shape.
Can anyone else comment on when they applied / were interviewed or hired?
Also, I'm definitely already worrying about the travel factor.. I'm out in western MA so Boston and NYC are inconvenient enough, but a lot of the firms I applied to are in DC and I've already got one interview offer that definitely won't be reimbursing the $300+ flight down.
Can anyone else comment on when they applied / were interviewed or hired?
Also, I'm definitely already worrying about the travel factor.. I'm out in western MA so Boston and NYC are inconvenient enough, but a lot of the firms I applied to are in DC and I've already got one interview offer that definitely won't be reimbursing the $300+ flight down.
Seriously? What are you waiting for?
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