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Confused Transfer Student
So........I didn't do OCI this fall due to a weird time line. I just figured that my job search would be much harder than others' and never once thought I could get a job through OCI. I just received grades back and I am near the top of my class at a respected regionally strong t30ish school. Did not try to write onto LR.
What should I do? I have never really considered biglaw (or midlaw for that matter) but have quite a large student loan bill as the costs are piling up at my new school. I remember reading posts of transfer students at t14's that were in the top 5% or so that couldn't land these kinds of jobs, so I know it is still unlikely. To be honest, I would love to clerk but I've heard lack of LR is fatal. I mean, could I write onto some kind of secondary journal for my 3L year and maybe qualify for a lower level state clerkship? I will move where the jobs are so location is not a giant concern.
I am very interested in doing criminal law but I've heard that grades aren't a big consideration.......
Are my good grades basically wasted here due to my unique situation? (i.e., can my grades get me a decent position or will I be scrambling just as students that missed the OCI boat will over the next year?). Thanks.
What should I do? I have never really considered biglaw (or midlaw for that matter) but have quite a large student loan bill as the costs are piling up at my new school. I remember reading posts of transfer students at t14's that were in the top 5% or so that couldn't land these kinds of jobs, so I know it is still unlikely. To be honest, I would love to clerk but I've heard lack of LR is fatal. I mean, could I write onto some kind of secondary journal for my 3L year and maybe qualify for a lower level state clerkship? I will move where the jobs are so location is not a giant concern.
I am very interested in doing criminal law but I've heard that grades aren't a big consideration.......
Are my good grades basically wasted here due to my unique situation? (i.e., can my grades get me a decent position or will I be scrambling just as students that missed the OCI boat will over the next year?). Thanks.
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Re: Confused Transfer Student
What were your reasons for transferring if not to participate in OCI?
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Re: Confused Transfer Student
My 2 cents:
Your grades are not worthless. You need to do two things (1) sustain your grades and (2) get some type of meaningful 2L summer employment. This will put you in a good position to have options during 3L OCI. You should start applying to DA offices, gov't positions, firms (maybe, if any are still hiring), in-house companies.
Also, if you want to clerk, try to get onto a journal. Any journal experience is good. I don't know what the process is like at your school, but you should look into it. This will boost 3L OCI chances, and any employment chances in general.
Your grades are not worthless. You need to do two things (1) sustain your grades and (2) get some type of meaningful 2L summer employment. This will put you in a good position to have options during 3L OCI. You should start applying to DA offices, gov't positions, firms (maybe, if any are still hiring), in-house companies.
Also, if you want to clerk, try to get onto a journal. Any journal experience is good. I don't know what the process is like at your school, but you should look into it. This will boost 3L OCI chances, and any employment chances in general.
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Re: Confused Transfer Student
Thanks Mega. Some firms are still posting on the school's database with like end of January deadlines so I'll definitely send resumes to them as well.
To concurrent fork: I transferred for many reasons. One of the biggest ones is that this school is in the area I grew up and have lived my entire life.
To concurrent fork: I transferred for many reasons. One of the biggest ones is that this school is in the area I grew up and have lived my entire life.
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Re: Confused Transfer Student
Gov't work looks great. Don't let those deadlines slip. Now that I think about it, I get these stupid OCS emails seemingly daily with upcoming gov't deadlines--which is good. Just be on top of it. It's a horrid process, but you need to do something other than like, working for a judge (or some other 1L summer thing). Also, what did you do 1L summer?Anonymous User wrote:Thanks Mega. Some firms are still posting on the school's database with like end of January deadlines so I'll definitely send resumes to them as well.
To concurrent fork: I transferred for many reasons. One of the biggest ones is that this school is in the area I grew up and have lived my entire life.
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- vanwinkle
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Re: Confused Transfer Student
Do a journal, keep rocking awesome grades, try to clerk when you graduate. I understand that clerking can open at least doors for you that may have been closed after OCI. Good luck.
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Thank you vanwinkle.vanwinkle wrote:Do a journal, keep rocking awesome grades, try to clerk when you graduate. I understand that clerking can open at least doors for you that may have been closed after OCI. Good luck.
Has anybody ever heard of a 2L writing onto LR? I remember seeing something about this before but it sounds like it doesn't really happen.
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Re: Confused Transfer Student
Publish a note in the journal?Anonymous User wrote:Thank you vanwinkle.vanwinkle wrote:Do a journal, keep rocking awesome grades, try to clerk when you graduate. I understand that clerking can open at least doors for you that may have been closed after OCI. Good luck.
Has anybody ever heard of a 2L writing onto LR? I remember seeing something about this before but it sounds like it doesn't really happen.
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Re: Confused Transfer Student
If your school's LR allows it, this is a way on. You can "note-on" at some schools. Try to spend a part of 2L spring writing an academic paper worthy of submission, and pay close attention to the submission deadlines for LR at your school. If they publish your note, then they invite you onto the LR board.A&O wrote:Publish a note in the journal?Anonymous User wrote:Thank you vanwinkle.vanwinkle wrote:Do a journal, keep rocking awesome grades, try to clerk when you graduate. I understand that clerking can open at least doors for you that may have been closed after OCI. Good luck.
Has anybody ever heard of a 2L writing onto LR? I remember seeing something about this before but it sounds like it doesn't really happen.
Otherwise, getting published in a secondary journal can still be beneficial to your career ambitions.
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Thanks again for your help.vanwinkle wrote:If your school's LR allows it, this is a way on. You can "note-on" at some schools. Try to spend a part of 2L spring writing an academic paper worthy of submission, and pay close attention to the submission deadlines for LR at your school. If they publish your note, then they invite you onto the LR board.A&O wrote:Publish a note in the journal?Anonymous User wrote:Thank you vanwinkle.vanwinkle wrote:Do a journal, keep rocking awesome grades, try to clerk when you graduate. I understand that clerking can open at least doors for you that may have been closed after OCI. Good luck.
Has anybody ever heard of a 2L writing onto LR? I remember seeing something about this before but it sounds like it doesn't really happen.
Otherwise, getting published in a secondary journal can still be beneficial to your career ambitions.
