Those of you in the bottom 25% at a T14... Forum

[Anonymous User]

How are we doing? Does anyone have an offer?
I struck out at OCI (unsurprisingly so) and am currently mass mailing.
Really would like to see if there's any hope at all.

[Anonymous User]

I can't say for sure that I'm in the bottom 25% but I did get horrendous grades like multiple B-s. I also did not research beyond Chambers because I didn't know how, simply could not interview very well due to nerves but did get an offer from OCI. I think it's all based on luck - I don't think I was lucky because I only got one callback but lucky in that at least one interviewer/firm liked my personality.

[Anonymous User]

Oh wow. Congratulations. I did manage to get a couple callbacks as well but they didn't turn into offers. Seems as though my grades didn't make it past some members of the hiring committee who didn't meet me in person.

[Anonymous User]

Oh wow. Congratulations. I did manage to get a couple callbacks as well but they didn't turn into offers. Seems as though my grades didn't make it past some members of the hiring committee who didn't meet me in person.

Yeah I get the same feeling, got 4 CB's despite poor grades and am 1 away from striking out.

[Anonymous User]

Multiple B- CCNer here. Got 10 CBs (cancelled 4 after my first offer). 3 offers so far (V50s and V100), 1 hold pile (was called to tell me I was in hold pile V40s), 1 reject (V50s), 1 no word at all even though my CB was well over a month ago (V40s).

[prezidentv8]

Oh wow. Congratulations. I did manage to get a couple callbacks as well but they didn't turn into offers. Seems as though my grades didn't make it past some members of the hiring committee who didn't meet me in person.

Yeah I get the same feeling, got 4 CB's despite poor grades and am 1 away from striking out.

Multiple B- CCNer here. Got 10 CBs (cancelled 4 after my first offer). 3 offers so far (V50s and V100), 1 hold pile (was called to tell me I was in hold pile V40s), 1 reject (V50s), 1 no word at all even though my CB was well over a month ago (V40s).

Where did you guys apply?

[Anonymous User]

Multiple B- CCNer here. Got 10 CBs (cancelled 4 after my first offer). 3 offers so far (V50s and V100), 1 hold pile (was called to tell me I was in hold pile V40s), 1 reject (V50s), 1 no word at all even though my CB was well over a month ago (V40s).

Where did you guys apply?[/quote]

This is me. I interviewed from V3-V100. The CBs I got were in the V30s-V100 range. The offer ranges are listed above.

[Anonymous User]

Oh wow. Congratulations. I did manage to get a couple callbacks as well but they didn't turn into offers. Seems as though my grades didn't make it past some members of the hiring committee who didn't meet me in person.

OP here. I targeted V50-V100 that historically placed less emphasis on grades. Callbacks from V90 range. I'm now mass mailing small firms on Martindale.

[Anonymous User]

CCN student here. Below Median. 5 CB's, 0 offers.

What matters the most is the market you target. Chicago/DC are very difficult if you're below median. Everywhere else, grades matter significantly less.

[Kohinoor]

Multiple B- CCNer here. Got 10 CBs (cancelled 4 after my first offer). 3 offers so far (V50s and V100), 1 hold pile (was called to tell me I was in hold pile V40s), 1 reject (V50s), 1 no word at all even though my CB was well over a month ago (V40s).

In the interest of pursuing precise language, are you in the bottom quarter?

[005618502]

Multiple B- CCNer here. Got 10 CBs (cancelled 4 after my first offer). 3 offers so far (V50s and V100), 1 hold pile (was called to tell me I was in hold pile V40s), 1 reject (V50s), 1 no word at all even though my CB was well over a month ago (V40s).

In the interest of pursuing precise language, are you in the bottom quarter?

If so you did very well, even for CCN, do you feel you interview well?

[Anonymous User]

CCN student here. Below Median. 5 CB's, 0 offers.

What matters the most is the market you target. Chicago/DC are very difficult if you're below median. Everywhere else, grades matter significantly less.

Hmmm. I would argue that NYC and LA are just as hard as Chicago, if not more so...

[enygma]

CCN student here. Below Median. 5 CB's, 0 offers.

What matters the most is the market you target. Chicago/DC are very difficult if you're below median. Everywhere else, grades matter significantly less.

Hmmm. I would argue that NYC and LA are just as hard as Chicago, if not more so...

you would be wrong.

[Anonymous User]

20 screening interviews; 2 CBs for V50-100 firms....butttt I haven't heard from either of them in +10 days so I'm thinking that's a NO (especially as one of the firms had asked for my transcript post-screening interview so each interviewer could have a copy). sigh.

[Anonymous User]

HYS, fairly bad grades (all P's). For OCI, bid a range of V100's plus some non-ranked regionals where I had ties. 23 screening interviews (n.b. our school doesn't let employers prescreen,) 0 callbacks. Started mass-mailing early this month, no word yet.

[ToTransferOrNot]

CCN student here. Below Median. 5 CB's, 0 offers.

What matters the most is the market you target. Chicago/DC are very difficult if you're below median. Everywhere else, grades matter significantly less.

Hmmm. I would argue that NYC and LA are just as hard as Chicago, if not more so...

100% incorrect.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone in this position had any luck in DC? Or is that market basically foreclosed by grades?

[Anonymous User]

Multiple B- CCNer here. Got 10 CBs (cancelled 4 after my first offer). 3 offers so far (V50s and V100), 1 hold pile (was called to tell me I was in hold pile V40s), 1 reject (V50s), 1 no word at all even though my CB was well over a month ago (V40s).

In the interest of pursuing precise language, are you in the bottom quarter?

If so you did very well, even for CCN, do you feel you interview well?

I don't know where I am. I don't even know how to determine that. I do know that I'd need an A, A- or two to offset the multiple B-'s. I don't have any of those. I can't imagine I'm even sitting at 3.0 at this point, much less above it.

To pre-empt the question, I am not AA. I do, however, interview very well.

[D. H2Oman]

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[rayiner]

Multiple B- CCNer here. Got 10 CBs (cancelled 4 after my first offer). 3 offers so far (V50s and V100), 1 hold pile (was called to tell me I was in hold pile V40s), 1 reject (V50s), 1 no word at all even though my CB was well over a month ago (V40s).

In the interest of pursuing precise language, are you in the bottom quarter?

If so you did very well, even for CCN, do you feel you interview well?

I don't know where I am. I don't even know how to determine that. I do know that I'd need an A, A- or two to offset the multiple B-'s. I don't have any of those. I can't imagine I'm even sitting at 3.0 at this point, much less above it.

To pre-empt the question, I am not AA. I do, however, interview very well.

You know, you could calculate your GPA and find out if you were above or below 3.0...

[Anonymous User]

You know, you could calculate your GPA and find out if you were above or below 3.0...

But, I don't actually care what it is. If I cared about grades, I wouldn't be in a position to have such poor grades in the first place.

[sperry]

You know, you could calculate your GPA and find out if you were above or below 3.0...

But, I don't actually care what it is. If I cared about grades, I wouldn't be in a position to have such poor grades in the first place.

So, you were determined enough to get yourself into CCN, but are such a laid back person that you don't care about grades, but your incredible interview skills managed to cover up this apathy to the tune of double digit callbacks with a sub 3 GPA


Either you're a flame, or you have something beyond belief incredible on your resume.

[ConMan345]

HYS, fairly bad grades (all P's). For OCI, bid a range of V100's plus some non-ranked regionals where I had ties. 23 screening interviews (n.b. our school doesn't let employers prescreen,) 0 callbacks. Started mass-mailing early this month, no word yet.

Oof, sorry to hear that. This is just about my worst nightmare.... What would you have done differently?

[prezidentv8]

Multiple B- CCNer here. Got 10 CBs (cancelled 4 after my first offer). 3 offers so far (V50s and V100), 1 hold pile (was called to tell me I was in hold pile V40s), 1 reject (V50s), 1 no word at all even though my CB was well over a month ago (V40s).

Where did you guys apply?

This is me. I interviewed from V3-V100. The CBs I got were in the V30s-V100 range. The offer ranges are listed above.[/quote]

Hehe I meant geographically..but that's helpful too.

[Anonymous User]

Oof, sorry to hear that. This is just about my worst nightmare.... What would you have done differently?

1. Not listened to Career Services, nor the regional recruiters they set me up with. I was told that Munger Tolles and Irell Manella were probably a bad bet with my transcript, but that MoFo or Latham should be doable. Then I talked to a Quinn Emanuel SA who told me that EIP was all about grades (granted, he was at Quinn.) I think he knew better what he was talking about.

Of course, I didn't bid stupid--Career Services provided this list of underrepresented firms that were touted as more widely accessible, and I worked heavily off that. Still, no dice.

2. Not focused so much on California, even if it is my home state and only significant tie. I keep hearing that New York was relatively easy this year. Not the message I got from Career Services beforehand--they said that New York had been hardest hit by the recession due to its focus on finance, and besides everybody from my school was bidding there. See point 1, supra.

3. Sent out outside-OCI applications earlier. Other people here have been successful sending stuff out as early as May. And I thought I was hot shit for reading Guerrilla Tactics and Nail Your Law Job Interview over the summer.

...I do think Guerrilla Tactics is a good book, though, and without it I'm sure I would've done worse. Somehow. Like, maybe involving spontaneous combustion or something.