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Schiff Hardin
I'm just curious what people think of Schiff Hardin. I am considering them for Chicago. They seem to have a better lifestyle, but I wonder if that is even a good thing in this market. Are they even that financially stable? Is it better just to go to one of the big law firms and forget about lifestyle?
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I wonder if the workload is that much better at schiff. They are trying to compete against the big firms and its a tough economy. Why would they give associates a lighter load?Anonymous User wrote:I'm just curious what people think of Schiff Hardin. I am considering them for Chicago. They seem to have a better lifestyle, but I wonder if that is even a good thing in this market. Are they even that financially stable? Is it better just to go to one of the big law firms and forget about lifestyle?
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The feeling I get about Schiff is not that you don't work as hard, but that the culture is a little softer.
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This was one of my more memorable interviews. The partner who interviewed me kept saying that she doesn't have time for associates who make mistakes, and that she would fire them. I was like ".....okay."
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Has anyone gotten an offer from schiff? If so, how long after the cb?
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Re: Schiff Hardin
I had a callback, but have not heard back yetAnonymous User wrote:Has anyone gotten an offer from schiff? If so, how long after the cb?
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I do not know anyone who has gotten an offer there yet.Anonymous User wrote:I had a callback, but have not heard back yetAnonymous User wrote:Has anyone gotten an offer from schiff? If so, how long after the cb?
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resurrecting this thread. i was offered a cb at schiff hardin, and the partner who did my screener described it to me in detail. to say the least, it sounded intense (~6 hours as opposed to ~2-3 hours for most other firms). can anyone who did it comment on how difficult & different from regular callback interviews it was?
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i have the same question
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Apparently they cancelled their San Francisco summer program, for whatever it's worth.
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I believe that Chicago just went back up to $160k, it had gone down to $145k for a moment there.
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i'm probably going to schedule this cb late. oddly difficult cb + possibility of layoffs/below-market compensation = not exactly what i'm looking for...
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whoa whoa whoa, the callback interview is 6 hours long?Anonymous User wrote:resurrecting this thread. i was offered a cb at schiff hardin, and the partner who did my screener described it to me in detail. to say the least, it sounded intense (~6 hours as opposed to ~2-3 hours for most other firms). can anyone who did it comment on how difficult & different from regular callback interviews it was?
Surely I'm misunderstanding something. How could the interview realistically be longer than 45 minutes?
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Re: Schiff Hardin
check their website. they're beginning a new CB format this year. instead of the usual meet and greet with partners and associates it will instead consist of a panel interview and a writing exercise. i was told by someone who works there that they initiated the new format because the old one wasn't giving them any new information about the applicants.Z3RO wrote:whoa whoa whoa, the callback interview is 6 hours long?Anonymous User wrote:resurrecting this thread. i was offered a cb at schiff hardin, and the partner who did my screener described it to me in detail. to say the least, it sounded intense (~6 hours as opposed to ~2-3 hours for most other firms). can anyone who did it comment on how difficult & different from regular callback interviews it was?
Surely I'm misunderstanding something. How could the interview realistically be longer than 45 minutes?
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Re: Schiff Hardin
Z3RO wrote:whoa whoa whoa, the callback interview is 6 hours long?Anonymous User wrote:resurrecting this thread. i was offered a cb at schiff hardin, and the partner who did my screener described it to me in detail. to say the least, it sounded intense (~6 hours as opposed to ~2-3 hours for most other firms). can anyone who did it comment on how difficult & different from regular callback interviews it was?
Surely I'm misunderstanding something. How could the interview realistically be longer than 45 minutes?
It sounds like you don't know what a callback is.
At a callback you often:
Take a tour
Meet with the recruiter
Meet with 2-3 associates individually
Meet with 2-3 partners individually
Go to lunch/dinner.
At most firms this takes 2-4 hours.
At Schiff they've added to that list:
A writing test
A panel interview with 3-5 partners.
This adds another 2 hours to their callback schedule.
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I should not have bid them so highly.blurbz wrote:Z3RO wrote:whoa whoa whoa, the callback interview is 6 hours long?Anonymous User wrote:resurrecting this thread. i was offered a cb at schiff hardin, and the partner who did my screener described it to me in detail. to say the least, it sounded intense (~6 hours as opposed to ~2-3 hours for most other firms). can anyone who did it comment on how difficult & different from regular callback interviews it was?
Surely I'm misunderstanding something. How could the interview realistically be longer than 45 minutes?
It sounds like you don't know what a callback is.
At a callback you often:
Take a tour
Meet with the recruiter
Meet with 2-3 associates individually
Meet with 2-3 partners individually
Go to lunch/dinner.
At most firms this takes 2-4 hours.
At Schiff they've added to that list:
A writing test
A panel interview with 3-5 partners.
This adds another 2 hours to their callback schedule.
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I actually give Schiff credit for doing this. I dont see anything wrong with talking to 3-4 folks at once, shows whether someone is good on their feet/has poise.
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anyone have any idea how long it takes them to give CBs after OCI screeners? The woman I met with said I would probably hear one way or the other by early next week (the interview was Thursday), but not sure whether that just meant if i'm rejected they won't drag it out.Anonymous User wrote:I actually give Schiff credit for doing this. I dont see anything wrong with talking to 3-4 folks at once, shows whether someone is good on their feet/has poise.
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Had a screener with them more than a week ago, but less than two weeks. I thought it went particularly well. Alas, no CB... yet?
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but no rejection means you're probably still in the running..especially since I've heard schiff sends it rejections by email, not snail mail. i also got the sense that schiff moves slower than some other chicago firms because of its size. i don't think they give a ton of CBs, so it may make sense that it takes them longer to go through all the people they met with during OCI.Anonymous User wrote:Had a screener with them more than a week ago, but less than two weeks. I thought it went particularly well. Alas, no CB... yet?
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Some of my fellow students at my school got Schiff Chi snail mail dings at least a week ago, but silence in my direction. Assuming that means I'm still in the running since I've also not heard of anyone at my school getting a CB, either.
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how long after your screener did it take you to get the CB?Anonymous User wrote:resurrecting this thread. i was offered a cb at schiff hardin, and the partner who did my screener described it to me in detail. to say the least, it sounded intense (~6 hours as opposed to ~2-3 hours for most other firms). can anyone who did it comment on how difficult & different from regular callback interviews it was?
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Re: Schiff Hardin
I had a Schiff callback and yes, it is a little bit (about an hour, maybe two) longer than other CBs, but it isn't as bad as some people think. From what I've gathered, the panel portion is the most important factor. The writing part is no big deal, anyone who can read a judicial opinion will be able to do it quickly. I was exhausted at the end of the day, but every CB has been tiring. This one was just more so.
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