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keker v. susman v. wc

Post by boaltie12 » Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:42 pm

got callbacks at all, 2L at Boalt here (all HH + CLR)
keker via email friday (from ocip)
susman/wc direct email to recruiter; heard back mid last week.

which one is best for lifestyle+combo (not interested in "exit options," wanna be a lifer), interested in gen comm lit - totally neutral about location, although leaning DC (wc)

feeling good about offer chances at all three

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Re: keker v. susman v. wc

Post by dresden doll » Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:45 pm

I highly doubt that anyone on here will be able to compare lifestyles at all three for you. Go read Chambers Associate.

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Re: keker v. susman v. wc

Post by Cavalier » Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:51 pm

Lifestyle? Are you joking? In general there's no such thing as a lifestyle big law firm, and you definitely won't find a lifestyle firm among the nation's top litigation firms. Prepare to bill at least 2500 hours.

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Re: keker v. susman v. wc

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:29 pm

I personally rank them

1. Susman
2. Keker
3. W&C

You'll get lots of responsibility early at Susman and Keker. Susman pays more and has a shorter partnership track. W&C will still have you doing bitchwork for your first few years and pays standard big law fare.

None are lifestyle. Prepare to bill around 3000 at Susman (although they have no billing).

Mind if I ask which Susman office?

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Re: keker v. susman v. wc

Post by Pablo Ramirez » Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:00 pm

Anonymous User wrote:W&C will still have you doing bitchwork for your first few years and pays standard big law fare.
Williams and Connolly starts you off at $190,000. Though no bonus.

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Re: keker v. susman v. wc

Post by seespotrun » Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:04 pm

Pablo Ramirez wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:W&C will still have you doing bitchwork for your first few years and pays standard big law fare.
Williams and Connolly starts you off at $190,000. Though no bonus.
wc= Williams and Connolly or White and Case??????

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Re: keker v. susman v. wc

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:05 pm

Pablo Ramirez wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:W&C will still have you doing bitchwork for your first few years and pays standard big law fare.
Williams and Connolly starts you off at $190,000. Though no bonus.
So slightly higher than standard biglaw fare...

First years bring in ~$300,000 at Susman ($160k base, 30%-60% bonuses on average (sometimes up to 100%), $50k clerkship bonus).

And with the 4 year PP, you're looking at $1m+ right around your 30th birthday.

I also put Susman slightly higher than Keker because I think the fact Susman has multiple offices in key locations while still retaining their elite, small practice helps. They have boots on the ground in every major market, which helps them get involved in major cases from Silicon Valley to Texas energy to NYC biglaw-esque litigation.

(Edit: Susman also filed that huge lawsuit on behalf of Paul Allen. Given their track record, they'll likely get a good chunk of change somehow. They're also involved -- although I'm not sure in what role -- in the BP oil spill litigation).

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