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LR is an enormous boost. It's a bit hard to quantify, as LR types often also have strong grades, but employers and judges definitely like to see LR, and it definitely stands head and shoulders above secondary journals.shmoo597 wrote:I'm curious then...how much of a boost is law review? I get the other journals are mostly crap, but can you expect a substantial boost with law review? Or is even that relatively minimal in the scheme of things (grades, WE, etc).
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From my experience so far and what I've seen/know of people's grades, the boost is significant. Those with top grades will do well even if not on a journal, but from what I've seen it can be a game changer for people not in the top 10%.shmoo597 wrote:I'm curious then...how much of a boost is law review? I get the other journals are mostly crap, but can you expect a substantial boost with law review? Or is even that relatively minimal in the scheme of things (grades, WE, etc).
I don't know. I don't think it's as big of a boost as people say, at least for biglaw. Reason I say this is because half the employers I interviewed with at OCI didn't really look at my resume ahead of time, some weren't aware I was on a journal until I mentioned it (not LR, but point still stands that they didn't even really look at my resume), some asked to look at my transcript in the beginning, and then many just asked questions about WE and my interest in practice areas. A lot of people on LR are top 10% so it's hard to gauge what effect LR has on its own, but I think grades trump everything else.disco_barred wrote:LR is an enormous boost. It's a bit hard to quantify, as LR types often also have strong grades, but employers and judges definitely like to see LR, and it definitely stands head and shoulders above secondary journals.shmoo597 wrote:I'm curious then...how much of a boost is law review? I get the other journals are mostly crap, but can you expect a substantial boost with law review? Or is even that relatively minimal in the scheme of things (grades, WE, etc).
I don't get why this is Anon. Are you speaking from experience, or just making it up?Anonymous User wrote:I don't know. I don't think it's as big of a boost as people say, at least for biglaw. Reason I say this is because half the employers I interviewed with at OCI didn't really look at my resume ahead of time, some weren't aware I was on a journal until I mentioned it, and then just asked questions about WE. A lot of people on LR are top 10% so it's hard to gauge what effect LR has on its own, but I think grades trump everything else.disco_barred wrote:LR is an enormous boost. It's a bit hard to quantify, as LR types often also have strong grades, but employers and judges definitely like to see LR, and it definitely stands head and shoulders above secondary journals.shmoo597 wrote:I'm curious then...how much of a boost is law review? I get the other journals are mostly crap, but can you expect a substantial boost with law review? Or is even that relatively minimal in the scheme of things (grades, WE, etc).
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Just went through OCI, so speaking from experience.Blindmelon wrote:I don't get why this is Anon. Are you speaking from experience, or just making it up?Anonymous User wrote:I don't know. I don't think it's as big of a boost as people say, at least for biglaw. Reason I say this is because half the employers I interviewed with at OCI didn't really look at my resume ahead of time, some weren't aware I was on a journal until I mentioned it, and then just asked questions about WE. A lot of people on LR are top 10% so it's hard to gauge what effect LR has on its own, but I think grades trump everything else.disco_barred wrote:LR is an enormous boost. It's a bit hard to quantify, as LR types often also have strong grades, but employers and judges definitely like to see LR, and it definitely stands head and shoulders above secondary journals.shmoo597 wrote:I'm curious then...how much of a boost is law review? I get the other journals are mostly crap, but can you expect a substantial boost with law review? Or is even that relatively minimal in the scheme of things (grades, WE, etc).
in my experience, no boost at all. i thought about quitting LR in my post-oci despair.shmoo597 wrote:I'm curious then...how much of a boost is law review? I get the other journals are mostly crap, but can you expect a substantial boost with law review? Or is even that relatively minimal in the scheme of things (grades, WE, etc).
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There is a 99.9% chance a firm will make its decision to call you back when a committee meets to consider your resume, transcript, and notes/impressions from your interview.Anonymous User wrote:Yeah, I guess I was just surprised at how some interviewers didn't really know my resume at all. Some interviewers ask for a transcript and don't even bother looking at the resume.disco_barred wrote:LR is definitely a large boost going through OCI. I'm going through OCI, and I know a lot of people on both sides of the LR divide. It rarely changes the category of firm one is "credentialed" for, but people on LR tend to get more attention from the group of firm's they're looking at. It's not even that LR is directly translatable into biglaw skill, it's just very hard for a committee to sort 200 candidates into offer and ding piles. LR becomes a concrete factor, as do grades, rank of school, etc. Work experience, personality, interview, and practice area absolutely come into play. But LR is a very real and very pronounced factor in biglaw hiring, from my observation this year.
Out of 25 screening interviews, I only had one where I brought up LR myself - and that was me trying to save a bad interview. (I failed.) But in many, many others, the interviewer brought it up, even if just to say, "Congratulations on making LR." While it's hard to know if it helped, and if so how much, they definitely noticed it.Anonymous User wrote:I don't know. I don't think it's as big of a boost as people say, at least for biglaw. Reason I say this is because half the employers I interviewed with at OCI didn't really look at my resume ahead of time, some weren't aware I was on a journal until I mentioned it (not LR, but point still stands that they didn't even really look at my resume), some asked to look at my transcript in the beginning, and then many just asked questions about WE and my interest in practice areas. A lot of people on LR are top 10% so it's hard to gauge what effect LR has on its own, but I think grades trump everything else.disco_barred wrote:LR is an enormous boost. It's a bit hard to quantify, as LR types often also have strong grades, but employers and judges definitely like to see LR, and it definitely stands head and shoulders above secondary journals.shmoo597 wrote:I'm curious then...how much of a boost is law review? I get the other journals are mostly crap, but can you expect a substantial boost with law review? Or is even that relatively minimal in the scheme of things (grades, WE, etc).
That might be an over-exaggeration. Grades trump everything (for biglaw at least). If you have an applicant below median and on law review vs. an applicant in the top 10% but no journal, the top 10% kid without the journal will get the job.disco_barred wrote:LR is an enormous boost. It's a bit hard to quantify, as LR types often also have strong grades, but employers and judges definitely like to see LR, and it definitely stands head and shoulders above secondary journals.shmoo597 wrote:I'm curious then...how much of a boost is law review? I get the other journals are mostly crap, but can you expect a substantial boost with law review? Or is even that relatively minimal in the scheme of things (grades, WE, etc).
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