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advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:09 pm

Working in tax boutique, mid-size, transferring from west coast to east coast - presently scheduled to quit 1LSA mid-aug, want to quit end of july to preserve sanity through the move, and to just give me some breathing time to get my life together before starting law school. If I end 1LSA as presently scheduled, I'd be looking at a coast to coast move over a weekend, and law school starting Monday. That's not cool.

Will not accept offer to come back next summer at present 1LSA because 1LSA = midsize, goal = biglaw. Do not want to position myself so that 2L SA callbacks call 1L SA firm and get bad referral.

What should I do?

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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

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Anonymous User wrote:Working in tax boutique, mid-size, transferring from west coast to east coast - presently scheduled to quit 1LSA mid-aug, want to quit end of july to preserve sanity through the move, and to just give me some breathing time to get my life together before starting law school. If I end 1LSA as presently scheduled, I'd be looking at a coast to coast move over a weekend, and law school starting Monday. That's not cool.

Will not accept offer to come back next summer at present 1LSA because 1LSA = midsize, goal = biglaw. Do not want to position myself so that 2L SA callbacks call 1L SA firm and get bad referral.

What should I do?
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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:16 pm

WTF this must be a flame....
Anonymous User wrote:Working in tax boutique, mid-size, transferring from west coast to east coast - presently scheduled to quit 1LSA mid-aug, want to quit end of july to preserve sanity through the move, and to just give me some breathing time to get my life together before starting law school. If I end 1LSA as presently scheduled, I'd be looking at a coast to coast move over a weekend, and law school starting Monday. That's not cool.

Will not accept offer to come back next summer at present 1LSA because 1LSA = midsize, goal = biglaw. Do not want to position myself so that 2L SA callbacks call 1L SA firm and get bad referral.

What should I do?

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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:16 pm

WTF this must be a flame....
I work at a midsize/big law firm in a market that does not interest me, however you dont know how bad the legal market really is out there. Even if you haev top grades, it is better to just suck it up and have a "saftey" offer.
Anonymous User wrote:Working in tax boutique, mid-size, transferring from west coast to east coast - presently scheduled to quit 1LSA mid-aug, want to quit end of july to preserve sanity through the move, and to just give me some breathing time to get my life together before starting law school. If I end 1LSA as presently scheduled, I'd be looking at a coast to coast move over a weekend, and law school starting Monday. That's not cool.

Will not accept offer to come back next summer at present 1LSA because 1LSA = midsize, goal = biglaw. Do not want to position myself so that 2L SA callbacks call 1L SA firm and get bad referral.

What should I do?
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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:20 pm

Anonymous User wrote:WTF this must be a flame....
I work at a midsize/big law firm in a market that does not interest me, however you dont know how bad the legal market really is out there. Even if you haev top grades, it is better to just suck it up and have a "saftey" offer.
Anonymous User wrote:Working in tax boutique, mid-size, transferring from west coast to east coast - presently scheduled to quit 1LSA mid-aug, want to quit end of july to preserve sanity through the move, and to just give me some breathing time to get my life together before starting law school. If I end 1LSA as presently scheduled, I'd be looking at a coast to coast move over a weekend, and law school starting Monday. That's not cool.

Will not accept offer to come back next summer at present 1LSA because 1LSA = midsize, goal = biglaw. Do not want to position myself so that 2L SA callbacks call 1L SA firm and get bad referral.

What should I do?
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I disagree completely, at my 1LSA i've seriously considered quitting, in fact I almost walked out of the midsummer review... I, however, am not an an anal retentive ass kisser like most attorneys are programmed. I actually know how to deal with clients, since I spent 4 years at a REAL company dealing with them. And I'm at a V100 firm right now, and if i was going through mid august I'd quit. Money's not everything, especially when you're on your knees working 14 hr days, and getting fat in order to get it... I can find better ways to put food on the table.

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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by Flanker1067 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:27 pm

Umm, you can't figure out what to do by yourself by now? None of us know your work situation, your firm or your relationship with the people there. If you can't answer this question, I don't know why you think we can.

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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by KMaine » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:35 pm

My first response is just to say "suck it up and stay." There is no sense burning bridges if you don't have to, and I don't see why your sanity would hinge on having to pack up your stuff and leave on a dime.

However, I would broach the subject with your employer, explain your situation, tell them you do not want to leave them in a bad position, but the end of the summer is really tight for you in a way that you did not expect. They may be reasonable about this (but you know them better than we do).

You may need this employer for a reference, and anyway, it is just kind of bad form to boalt on a job because it makes your life a little invonvenient, especially when others would kill to be in your shoes.

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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by Mirrored » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:53 pm

I agree with Flankner.

However, this forum needs to learn the difference between Trolling and Flaming.

Flaming is attacking someone in an angry manner.
Trolling is posting provocative statements to draw angry responses or cause emotional duress.

And as for the people accusing it of being a Flame. You are very wrong.

Some of us are going to Law School for Biglaw. We do not care at all about a Midsized firm. We do not care about anything short of what we came from and we are designing our lives around getting the Biglaw Job. The Midsized firm was never a consideration, just a stepping stone towards the goal.

I would never "suck it up". Thinking like that has already weeded you out of the pool. It's better to play all in and go hard. If you want the average, or even "sort of" good jobs, they will be there. But if you miss the Biglaw boat it's going to take 4 to 5 years to get back on it. That's probably around 660k of lost income.

For advice:

I think you should stay at the job until around Aug 5th? That gives you an extra week. Tell them your concerns and that you want to make sure you have everything setup for your move. If you have done a good job and have a good relationship with your boss, just discuss them.

Also, are you going to be touch and go on your new OCIs? You should know that date by now.

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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by lawschooliseasy » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:57 pm

Flanker1067 wrote:Umm, you can't figure out what to do by yourself by now? None of us know your work situation, your firm or your relationship with the people there. If you can't answer this question, I don't know why you think we can.
Down 1/5th of scotch to get the creative juices flowing. The only advice I can give you from there is to trust your intuition.

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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by Flanker1067 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:01 pm

lawschooliseasy wrote:
Flanker1067 wrote:Umm, you can't figure out what to do by yourself by now? None of us know your work situation, your firm or your relationship with the people there. If you can't answer this question, I don't know why you think we can.
Down 1/5th of scotch to get the creative juices flowing. The only advice I can give you from there is to trust your intuition.
Possibly with your boss?

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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by 09042014 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:02 pm

Nut up.

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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by 270910 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:21 pm

Mirrored wrote:However, this forum needs to learn the difference between Trolling and Flaming.

Flaming is attacking someone in an angry manner.
Trolling is posting provocative statements to draw angry responses or cause emotional duress.
Oh thanks new guy, I had no idea that this entire forum had been misusing its own terms of art for all these years!

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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by 09042014 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:23 pm

disco_barred wrote:
Mirrored wrote:However, this forum needs to learn the difference between Trolling and Flaming.

Flaming is attacking someone in an angry manner.
Trolling is posting provocative statements to draw angry responses or cause emotional duress.
Oh thanks new guy, I had no idea that this entire forum had been misusing its own terms of art for all these years!
The terms didn't originate on TLS, and are often used in a way very different from teh rest of the internet.

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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by 270910 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:24 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
disco_barred wrote:
Mirrored wrote:However, this forum needs to learn the difference between Trolling and Flaming.

Flaming is attacking someone in an angry manner.
Trolling is posting provocative statements to draw angry responses or cause emotional duress.
Oh thanks new guy, I had no idea that this entire forum had been misusing its own terms of art for all these years!
The terms didn't originate on TLS, and are often used in a way very different from teh rest of the internet.
No shit sherlock. That's why they're ARE TERMS OF ART/COUNTRY. And when we "call flame" we all know exactly what we're talking about, and new guy and the rest of the internet can sod off.

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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by 09042014 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:26 pm

disco_barred wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
disco_barred wrote:
Oh thanks new guy, I had no idea that this entire forum had been misusing its own terms of art for all these years!
The terms didn't originate on TLS, and are often used in a way very different from teh rest of the internet.
No shit sherlock. That's why they're ARE TERMS OF ART/COUNTRY. And when we "call flame" we all know exactly what we're talking about, and new guy and the rest of the internet can sod off.
Jeez you fuck one mod around here and suddenly get a chip on your shoulder.

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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by 270910 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:32 pm

Where is my lolwut pear when I need it?

Oh right, the last time I posted a meme I got banned for it (see, e.g., chip on shoulder)

Edit/reconsidered: Actually, nah, the chip is much older than that.

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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by 09042014 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:36 pm

disco_barred wrote:Where is my lolwut pear when I need it?

Oh right, the last time I posted a meme I got banned for it (see, e.g., chip on shoulder)

Edit/reconsidered: Actually, nah, the chip is much older than that.

*mutters inanely in corner*
banned for a meme on tls? that is outragoes

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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by 270910 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:38 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
disco_barred wrote:Where is my lolwut pear when I need it?

Oh right, the last time I posted a meme I got banned for it (see, e.g., chip on shoulder)

Edit/reconsidered: Actually, nah, the chip is much older than that.

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banned for a meme on tls? that is outragoes
IT WAS 24 HOURS TOO. Not even one of those "that wasn't funny, prick" hour bans, or a "stop posting tub girl" hour ban, or a "if you post in this thread I will ban you for 30 minutes because I can" 30 minute ban. A real 24 hour ban :(

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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by bilbobaggins » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:43 pm

Just ask if you can leave a week earlier than scheduled because you're transferring and need to move across the region/country/whatever. If they say no, leave it at that.

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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by como » Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:54 pm

Just go ahead and tell them to all fuck themselves. Seeing as how you don't want midlaw anyway, why not? You're too good for them anyway.

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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by 3ThrowAway99 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:22 pm

Found the Flame/ Troll distinction regarding how it is used on TLS interesting. It seems on here that it is used most to refer to what are perceived to be disingenuous posts rather than posts that are necessarily expressing/drawing anger (Flames) or fishing for a particular response (Trolls), though these potentially disingenuous "Flame" posts on TLS may be seeking or accomplishing both.

... not to say that I suspect this topic post was a TLS defition "Flame"...

In terms of content here, it sounds to me like the advice about talking with your employer is good. I would imagine they can accommodate your desired time-line to some degree. In terms of your decisions about the type of law you want to pursue, I think that whatever direction you pursue you will be best off if you can leave this job on as good terms as possible.

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Re: advice please - want to end 1LSA early

Post by rayiner » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:43 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:WTF this must be a flame....
I work at a midsize/big law firm in a market that does not interest me, however you dont know how bad the legal market really is out there. Even if you haev top grades, it is better to just suck it up and have a "saftey" offer.
Anonymous User wrote:Working in tax boutique, mid-size, transferring from west coast to east coast - presently scheduled to quit 1LSA mid-aug, want to quit end of july to preserve sanity through the move, and to just give me some breathing time to get my life together before starting law school. If I end 1LSA as presently scheduled, I'd be looking at a coast to coast move over a weekend, and law school starting Monday. That's not cool.

Will not accept offer to come back next summer at present 1LSA because 1LSA = midsize, goal = biglaw. Do not want to position myself so that 2L SA callbacks call 1L SA firm and get bad referral.

What should I do?
I disagree completely, at my 1LSA i've seriously considered quitting, in fact I almost walked out of the midsummer review... I, however, am not an an anal retentive ass kisser like most attorneys are programmed. I actually know how to deal with clients, since I spent 4 years at a REAL company dealing with them. And I'm at a V100 firm right now, and if i was going through mid august I'd quit. Money's not everything, especially when you're on your knees working 14 hr days, and getting fat in order to get it... I can find better ways to put food on the table.[/quote]

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