OCIs are coming up and I am focusing my energies on one secondary market. We are allowed four priority bids at my school and there are only four firms from this market interviewing at my school (so far). I am leaning towards using my priority bids for these four firms. FOr those unfamiliar with this process, the firm will be notified I have made them one of my "priority firms."
The reason I am concerned is because two of the firms are likely out of my range. One states "top 15% required" and the other states "top 10% preferred." I am a Native American URM on law review (wrote-on) and in the top 40%.
Do I have sufficient chance with these firms to use my priority bids on them? Please stay on topic and help me out. Thanks.
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Re: URMs & OCI Bidding
Ignore everything the firms list on their bidding page in terms of cut off, find the data yourself.
I've looked at quite a bit of hiring data and can say with confidence that those numbers are worthless. They're not just wrong, they're wrong without any consistency. One firm might say charitably "top 50% preferred" but never hire out of the top 10%. Another might say "top 15% and journal experience required" and actually routinely dip to the top third or lower for making their hiring decisions.
Reed Smith is a good example. I've seen what they say they require from several schools, I've seen what they ACTUALLY require from several schools, and let's just say... it's a world of difference. And there's no way to predict how any given firm will be misinforming you, so all you can rely on is that you are being misinformed.
The correct way to answer this question is to talk to your career services office. Don't ask questions with platitudes - like "should I bid?" because they can dodge and say "sure!". It's in their best interest to put people in interviews in case something clicks, and also to be encouraging. You want to either look at the data, or force them to answer data specific questions. It's like 20 questions. "Has anybody with my GPA ever gotten a callback with ____ firm? Have any minorities applied? How many people do they usually take? With what grades? With what background?" etc.
Be informed! Only YOU can prevent crippling unemployment!
I've looked at quite a bit of hiring data and can say with confidence that those numbers are worthless. They're not just wrong, they're wrong without any consistency. One firm might say charitably "top 50% preferred" but never hire out of the top 10%. Another might say "top 15% and journal experience required" and actually routinely dip to the top third or lower for making their hiring decisions.
Reed Smith is a good example. I've seen what they say they require from several schools, I've seen what they ACTUALLY require from several schools, and let's just say... it's a world of difference. And there's no way to predict how any given firm will be misinforming you, so all you can rely on is that you are being misinformed.
The correct way to answer this question is to talk to your career services office. Don't ask questions with platitudes - like "should I bid?" because they can dodge and say "sure!". It's in their best interest to put people in interviews in case something clicks, and also to be encouraging. You want to either look at the data, or force them to answer data specific questions. It's like 20 questions. "Has anybody with my GPA ever gotten a callback with ____ firm? Have any minorities applied? How many people do they usually take? With what grades? With what background?" etc.
Be informed! Only YOU can prevent crippling unemployment!
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Re: URMs & OCI Bidding
Haha. Thank you. This was very helpful.
