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SA ends and you receive an offer, what are you drinking?

Beer
14
13%
Whiskey
39
35%
Tequila
11
10%
Cocktail
11
10%
Champagne
21
19%
Wine (red, white, box)
16
14%
 
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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Old Gregg » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:19 pm

BTW: When I started as an SA I was advised by a partner that the firm didn’t fire anyone, but some people end up firing themselves. I took it to heart and noted that sentiment earlier ITT and apparently it came across to some as thoughtless.
So... like... you know that like... some firms are... like.... totally not the same as other firms?

And this...
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Dafaq wrote:
shock259 wrote:
Dafaq wrote:Damn. How hard is this question? Do you 1 personally know anyone that has been no-offered?

1. through direct contact; in person; directly: I will thank him personally.
There were 2 at my firm last year.
If you know, why?

BTW: When I started as an SA I was advised by a partner that the firm didn’t fire anyone, but some people end up firing themselves. I took it to heart and noted that sentiment earlier ITT and apparently it came across to some as thoughtless.
You realize that this partner is just telling you the party line. I'm sure every partner at every firm that no offers people explains their decision in the same way. That way they don't have to blame themselves or the firm or take responsibility.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Old Gregg » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:20 pm

Time to create a dipshit ranking for this thread:

1) Brother Darkness
2) Dafuq

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:22 pm

I guess my firm typically let's you know your last day. My last day is next Friday so this is going to be a week full of fear and anxiety.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by El Pollito » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:25 pm

I still want to know what "outing" caused brotherdarkness to APNS all his posts.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Old Gregg » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:50 pm

El Pollito wrote:I still want to know what "outing" caused brotherdarkness to APNS all his posts.
Didn't you hear? He got a Band 3 rating on Chambers. The first ever rating given to a summer associate.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by 2014 » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:51 pm

Was his firm even outed?

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by shock259 » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:51 pm

Dafaq wrote: If you know, why?

BTW: When I started as an SA I was advised by a partner that the firm didn’t fire anyone, but some people end up firing themselves. I took it to heart and noted that sentiment earlier ITT and apparently it came across to some as thoughtless.
Economic reasons. They over-enrolled the class and had to make cuts. I'm assuming they picked the people with the worst performance reviews to cut.

Also, every single person in the firm told us the same thing you were told. They all told us stories about how everyone gets an offer, the ridiculous drunken things you could do and still get an offer, "when you come back...," etc. They didn't announce offers until a few weeks after our SAs ended. We were all shocked to hear about the no offers.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Dafaq » Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:48 pm

shock259 wrote:
Dafaq wrote: If you know, why?

BTW: When I started as an SA I was advised by a partner that the firm didn’t fire anyone, but some people end up firing themselves. I took it to heart and noted that sentiment earlier ITT and apparently it came across to some as thoughtless.
Economic reasons. They over-enrolled the class and had to make cuts. I'm assuming they picked the people with the worst performance reviews to cut.

Also, every single person in the firm told us the same thing you were told. They all told us stories about how everyone gets an offer, the ridiculous drunken things you could do and still get an offer, "when you come back...," etc. They didn't announce offers until a few weeks after our SAs ended. We were all shocked to hear about the no offers.
Having friends that didn’t get a shot at an SA is probably par with those who were no¬offered. The next phase in our law school journey are the bar results. The hits just keep on coming.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by rpupkin » Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:28 pm

Dafaq wrote: Having friends that didn’t get a shot at an SA is probably par with those who were no¬offered. The next phase in our law school journey are the bar results. The hits just keep on coming.
If the coherence of your posts is any indication of the quality of your work product, and if you received an offer at the end of your summer, then I can believe that your firm has a 100% offer rate.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by bjsesq » Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:50 pm

Dafaq wrote:Damn. How hard is this question? Do you 1 personally know anyone that has been no-offered?

1. through direct contact; in person; directly: I will thank him personally.
I was a no offer from Winston's class of 2012. You fucking happy now?

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Redamon1 » Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:10 am

I feel like slapping that kid in the face 1 personally.

1. through direct contact; in person; directly: I will thank him personally.


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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Mal Reynolds » Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:23 am

I have no way to verify this but Dafaq reminds me of Renee Walker. Maybe not the same person but just as stupid.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by rpupkin » Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:15 am

bjsesq wrote:.[
Why did you fire yourself?
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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Neal Patrick Harris » Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:01 am

rpupkin wrote:
I would unquote in case he chooses to delete.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Danger Zone » Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:26 am

Dafaq, you're a piece of shit.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by El Pollito » Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:27 am

rpupkin wrote:
bjsesq wrote:.[
Why did you fire yourself?
lol

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:31 am

How much does having most of your work come from one partner hurt your chances of an offer?

Firm emphasizes working with many attorneys. I have worked with several attorneys, but this one partner has given me probably 70% of my work. I can't turn the work down (she is on exec committee, been there for many years, etc). The good news is she has told recruiting I have done well and she is in a department I want to work for. Bad news is that dept may not be hiring a new associate and I haven't thoroughly explored other areas.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by Neal Patrick Harris » Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:07 am

Anonymous User wrote:How much does having most of your work come from one partner hurt your chances of an offer?

Firm emphasizes working with many attorneys. I have worked with several attorneys, but this one partner has given me probably 70% of my work. I can't turn the work down (she is on exec committee, been there for many years, etc). The good news is she has told recruiting I have done well and she is in a department I want to work for. Bad news is that dept may not be hiring a new associate and I haven't thoroughly explored other areas.
I think having a partner on the exec committee pulling for you while you get 30% of your work from "several attorneys" is more than fine.

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Anonymous User wrote:How much does having most of your work come from one partner hurt your chances of an offer?

Firm emphasizes working with many attorneys. I have worked with several attorneys, but this one partner has given me probably 70% of my work. I can't turn the work down (she is on exec committee, been there for many years, etc). The good news is she has told recruiting I have done well and she is in a department I want to work for. Bad news is that dept may not be hiring a new associate and I haven't thoroughly explored other areas.
Your options may depend on where you are. What market?

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by 09042014 » Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:16 am

El Pollito wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
bjsesq wrote:.[
Why did you fire yourself?
lol
TBF I think boo has enough sense not to hire boo.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by sundontshine » Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:38 am

zweitbester wrote:Time to create a dipshit ranking for this thread:

1) Brother Darkness
2) Dafuq
You rated both BD and Dafuq too low.

I'm also super interested in how BD got outed and had to delete, too bad we will never know.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by bjsesq » Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:19 am

Desert Fox wrote:
El Pollito wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
bjsesq wrote:.[
Why did you fire yourself?
lol
TBF I think boo has enough sense not to hire boo.
Troof.

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by 09042014 » Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:20 am

bjsesq wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
El Pollito wrote:
rpupkin wrote: Why did you fire yourself?
lol
TBF I think boo has enough sense not to hire boo.
Troof.
I mean you fired yourself from being a dad right

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Re: Summer Associates 2014: Thoughts, Anxieties, Experiences...

Post by bjsesq » Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:22 am

Desert Fox wrote:I mean you fired yourself from being a dad right
Nope, actually rehired myself for that position, and it's going ok. Fired myself from anything resembling a romantic relationship for a while, though.

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