Milbank/Davis Polk/Cravath Scale: NYC to 215-415k Forum

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I like where this thread is going and it seems like we are headed to a pretty obvious conclusion: we are mostly pretty mediocre at this job.

Thankfully, most people on this planet are probably just pretty mediocre at their jobs.

[Anonymous User]

I like where this thread is going and it seems like we are headed to a pretty obvious conclusion: we are mostly pretty mediocre at this job.

Thankfully, most people on this planet are probably just pretty mediocre at their jobs.

I honestly do not understand the obsession with paper credentials like school rank and grades. The job itself is not that hard or intellectual. And the actual work product we produce is not that impressive. For all the whining about KE hiring anyone with a pulse, they're making more money than the preftige obsessed firms.

[Anonymous User]

I like where this thread is going and it seems like we are headed to a pretty obvious conclusion: we are mostly pretty mediocre at this job.

Thankfully, most people on this planet are probably just pretty mediocre at their jobs.

I honestly do not understand the obsession with paper credentials like school rank and grades. The job itself is not that hard or intellectual. And the actual work product we produce is not that impressive. For all the whining about KE hiring anyone with a pulse, they're making more money than the preftige obsessed firms.

Does KE hire anyone with a pulse though? The median for KE out of my school (t-14) is a 3.7 and I think we send about 14-15 people to KE Chicago every year. The 25th is pretty close to a 3.7 and I think the 75th is 3.9 or 3.8. It's been this way for at least 3 years worth of numbers.

I interviewed for their tax team and didn't get an offer

Did accept one with Skadden Chicago and I'm told by people that have worked at both that this was the better outcome

[Anonymous User]

I like where this thread is going and it seems like we are headed to a pretty obvious conclusion: we are mostly pretty mediocre at this job.

Thankfully, most people on this planet are probably just pretty mediocre at their jobs.

I honestly do not understand the obsession with paper credentials like school rank and grades. The job itself is not that hard or intellectual. And the actual work product we produce is not that impressive. For all the whining about KE hiring anyone with a pulse, they're making more money than the preftige obsessed firms.

Does KE hire anyone with a pulse though? The median for KE out of my school is a 3.7 and I think we send about 14-15 people to KE Chicago every year. The 25th is pretty close to a 3.7 and I think the 75th is 3.9 or 3.8. It's been this way for at least 3 years worth of numbers.

I interviewed for their tax team and didn't get an offer.

They are less grades selective than peer firms, but really I was referring to laterals. They take a lot of laterals who they'd never hire entry level.

I also interviewed for tax and didn't get it...

[Anonymous User]

I like where this thread is going and it seems like we are headed to a pretty obvious conclusion: we are mostly pretty mediocre at this job.

Thankfully, most people on this planet are probably just pretty mediocre at their jobs.

I honestly do not understand the obsession with paper credentials like school rank and grades. The job itself is not that hard or intellectual. And the actual work product we produce is not that impressive. For all the whining about KE hiring anyone with a pulse, they're making more money than the preftige obsessed firms.

Does KE hire anyone with a pulse though? The median for KE out of my school is a 3.7 and I think we send about 14-15 people to KE Chicago every year. The 25th is pretty close to a 3.7 and I think the 75th is 3.9 or 3.8. It's been this way for at least 3 years worth of numbers.

I interviewed for their tax team and didn't get an offer.

They are less grades selective than peer firms, but really I was referring to laterals. They take a lot of laterals who they'd never hire entry level.

I also interviewed for tax and didn't get it...

Ya. My gpa was above their 75th, I'm a CPA candidate and doing a tax LLM with my JD. I was pretty surprised I didn't get the offer. Skadden gave me an offer pre-oci. It worked out for the best, I didn't get a great vibe from the KE folks but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't annoyed about it.

[Anonymous User]

I like where this thread is going and it seems like we are headed to a pretty obvious conclusion: we are mostly pretty mediocre at this job.

Thankfully, most people on this planet are probably just pretty mediocre at their jobs.

I honestly do not understand the obsession with paper credentials like school rank and grades. The job itself is not that hard or intellectual. And the actual work product we produce is not that impressive. For all the whining about KE hiring anyone with a pulse, they're making more money than the preftige obsessed firms.

Does KE hire anyone with a pulse though? The median for KE out of my school (t-14) is a 3.7 and I think we send about 14-15 people to KE Chicago every year. The 25th is pretty close to a 3.7 and I think the 75th is 3.9 or 3.8. It's been this way for at least 3 years worth of numbers.

I interviewed for their tax team and didn't get an offer

Did accept one with Skadden Chicago and I'm told by people that have worked at both that this was the better outcome

If you're coming from Northwestern targeting Chicago, or Georgetown targeting DC, Kirkland might be pretty competitive. For out-of-town markets (especially Texas) at pretty much any t-14, it is much less competitive, but they still aren't usually dipping into the bottom of the class.

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[Anonymous User]

I like where this thread is going and it seems like we are headed to a pretty obvious conclusion: we are mostly pretty mediocre at this job.

Thankfully, most people on this planet are probably just pretty mediocre at their jobs.

I honestly do not understand the obsession with paper credentials like school rank and grades. The job itself is not that hard or intellectual. And the actual work product we produce is not that impressive. For all the whining about KE hiring anyone with a pulse, they're making more money than the preftige obsessed firms.

Does KE hire anyone with a pulse though? The median for KE out of my school is a 3.7 and I think we send about 14-15 people to KE Chicago every year. The 25th is pretty close to a 3.7 and I think the 75th is 3.9 or 3.8. It's been this way for at least 3 years worth of numbers.

I interviewed for their tax team and didn't get an offer.

They are less grades selective than peer firms, but really I was referring to laterals. They take a lot of laterals who they'd never hire entry level.

I also interviewed for tax and didn't get it...

only k&e chicago is selective, northwestern, u chi, and michigan send a boat load of students there

out of my school (one of the t14s i just listed)) k&e's selectiveness correlates with its ranking but only if you look at chicago placement. our median for k&e chi is higher than davis polk ny, stb ny, on par with pw, nearly on par with skadden ny. obv the other firms ranked before k&e take more competitive gpas.

however... k&e ny's median from my school is a 3.5 lolol

Right but that's just bc Chi is more competitive overall. Even random v100s in Chicago are more competitive than V20s in NY. Other V10s that have Chicago offices are more competitive than KE. The above poster who got skadden chi but not KE is an outlier.

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[Anonymous User]

I like where this thread is going and it seems like we are headed to a pretty obvious conclusion: we are mostly pretty mediocre at this job.

Thankfully, most people on this planet are probably just pretty mediocre at their jobs.

I honestly do not understand the obsession with paper credentials like school rank and grades. The job itself is not that hard or intellectual. And the actual work product we produce is not that impressive. For all the whining about KE hiring anyone with a pulse, they're making more money than the preftige obsessed firms.

Does KE hire anyone with a pulse though? The median for KE out of my school is a 3.7 and I think we send about 14-15 people to KE Chicago every year. The 25th is pretty close to a 3.7 and I think the 75th is 3.9 or 3.8. It's been this way for at least 3 years worth of numbers.

I interviewed for their tax team and didn't get an offer.

They are less grades selective than peer firms, but really I was referring to laterals. They take a lot of laterals who they'd never hire entry level.

I also interviewed for tax and didn't get it...

only k&e chicago is selective, northwestern, u chi, and michigan send a boat load of students there

out of my school (one of the t14s i just listed)) k&e's selectiveness correlates with its ranking but only if you look at chicago placement. our median for k&e chi is higher than davis polk ny, stb ny, on par with pw, nearly on par with skadden ny. obv the other firms ranked before k&e take more competitive gpas.

however... k&e ny's median from my school is a 3.5 lolol

Right but that's just bc Chi is more competitive overall. Even random v100s in Chicago are more competitive than V20s in NY. Other V10s that have Chicago offices are more competitive than KE. The above poster who got skadden chi but not KE is an outlier.

The only other V10 firms that have an office in Chicago are Skadden and Latham. Skadden Chicago is not more competitive than Kirkland Chicago. They're pretty equal. The only office that definitively takes a higher GPA than Kirkland in Chicago is Latham.

Edit: The only biglaw* office. There are several boutique litigation firms and midsize firms in Chicago that require higher GPAs than Kirkland, Skadden, and Latham.

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[Anonymous User]

I have an idea. Everyone has to play. No talk of Kirkland for the next 48 hours.

Starting now!

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how we start every morning

[Anonymous User]

I have an idea. Everyone has to play. No talk of Kirkland for the next 48 hours.

Starting now!

Meanwhile, lawyers at KE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRu_-9MBpd4

[Anonymous User]

Today is Thursday.

[Anonymous User]

I think it's time. Time to take that money: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAFBpdseKwo

[Anonymous User]

Who let the uChicago autists into the thread? This isn't about GPA cutoffs in a crime-ridden frozen tundra. This is about the market raises that Milbank, an elite New York firm, is leading -- as well as about DPW (another elite New York firm).

[Anonymous User]

The dumbest biglaw attorneys I've ever worked with, by a mile, all came from Troutman.

Let's stick to actual biglaw hmm

I'm dying. The claws are out tonight but I'm having fun.

Out of curiosity, what’s the reason for the hate on Troutman?

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The dumbest biglaw attorneys I've ever worked with, by a mile, all came from Troutman.

Let's stick to actual biglaw hmm

I'm dying. The claws are out tonight but I'm having fun.

Out of curiosity, what’s the reason for the hate on Troutman?

This thread is about lobster, not trout.

[mtf612]

Anyone else having lobster for breakfast today?

[Anon-non-anon]

Anyone else having lobster for breakfast today?

Fucking no, I can't afford it.

[Anonymous User]

It’s been three weeks, WTF. What a milestone. If I was a client and my lawyer took three weeks to make an important decision or recommendation, I would probably fire them.

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The dumbest biglaw attorneys I've ever worked with, by a mile, all came from Troutman.

Let's stick to actual biglaw hmm

I'm dying. The claws are out tonight but I'm having fun.

Out of curiosity, what’s the reason for the hate on Troutman?

They're all morons, for starters.