HLS EIP 2015 Forum

[jbagelboy]

4H, 6P; no other accolades; I think (?) above average interviewer. NY Lit.

23 Screeners
8 Call Backs
6 Offers (1 x V5, 2 x V15, 2 x V25, 1 x V50)

Not sure what went on from Screeners --> CB because a lot of firms that offered CB to people with lower stats didn't offer me one. Also, Lit is significantly tougher than Corp. Is it just me or did a lot of people find that people in my range of grades kind of bombed a little this year? I think I was the one of the few that really lucked out with a V5.

Lit is always tougher than corp in NY. Firms won't admit it, but they're generally looking for 60/40 or 70/30 corp to lit summer class ratio. I don't think it makes a big difference but it's there. If you're borderline for an NY V15/20/whatever arbitrary #, might want to consider a very temporary interest in m&a given this year's bull market.

[Anonymous User]

4H, 6P; no other accolades; I think (?) above average interviewer. NY Lit.

23 Screeners
8 Call Backs
6 Offers (1 x V5, 2 x V15, 2 x V25, 1 x V50)

Not sure what went on from Screeners --> CB because a lot of firms that offered CB to people with lower stats didn't offer me one. Also, Lit is significantly tougher than Corp. Is it just me or did a lot of people find that people in my range of grades kind of bombed a little this year? I think I was the one of the few that really lucked out with a V5.

LOL "bombed" with 6 offers all above V50?

[jbagelboy]

4H, 6P; no other accolades; I think (?) above average interviewer. NY Lit.

23 Screeners
8 Call Backs
6 Offers (1 x V5, 2 x V15, 2 x V25, 1 x V50)

Not sure what went on from Screeners --> CB because a lot of firms that offered CB to people with lower stats didn't offer me one. Also, Lit is significantly tougher than Corp. Is it just me or did a lot of people find that people in my range of grades kind of bombed a little this year? I think I was the one of the few that really lucked out with a V5.

LOL "bombed" with 6 offers all above V50?

I think the anon was saying they personally did well, while others "bombed".

Although stating the vault ranges in these increments is kind of silly. There's absolutely no difference between a "V5" and a "V15".

[Anonymous User]

OP Anon here. Yes, I meant I did well but my friends with similar stats or better in NY Lit were disappointed with their outcome. Regardless of vault, they ended up with satellite NY offices with relatively poor lit reputation. And yeah.. that explains it. So let this be a warning to future students -- unless totally sold on Lit, maybe be open to Corp. I had a fairly good "Why Lit" story that resonated strongly with a lot of litigators, which is what saved me at the end of the day.

[Anonymous User]

EIP results for future reference:

2 DS, 6H, 2P with some work experience, no clerkship.

Total:
21 interviews
16 callbacks offered
9 callbacks accepted
8 offers

DC:
11 interviews
8 callbacks offered
4 callbacks accepted
4 offers

NYC:
10 interviews
8 callbacks offered
5 callbacks accepted
4 offers

WHAT SHOCKING AND UNEXPECTED RESULTS

Cool humblebrag bro

this is not what the anon function is for

Not exactly a humblebrag if I use the anon function. All I know is when I was looking through the 2014 thread I would've preferred to see as many results as possible. And DC is a fluky market, so it's not exactly unhelpful info. If you look at past threads you'll see that.

[polareagle]

EIP results:

2H/7P/1LP

20 screeners
2CB
0 offers

8 cover letter targeted mail
1CB
0 offers

27 days of crying

I'm in the same boat.
What are you planning to do next?

Resume book, public interest, get grades up (as if I could just do it...) and try to get a district court clerkship to delay applying for jobs again.

I assume you've already talked to OCS, but you need to be mass mailing. Forget 8, you should send out several hundred letters/resumes. There are TONS of threads here on TLS about how to do this. You're on the tail end of when you can do this, but it may still work. Forget any sense of prestige or selectivity that you have. A market paying job is a market paying job. (This is if you want to go the firm route. If you actually want public interest, go for it. But PI is not really a backup to firms as a post-law school career option. The reverse is more true.)

Good luck OP.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone know if it's at all likely to get an offer from a firm after its offer dinner has passed?

[Anonymous User]

I'm a below average interviewer who went all NY all Corporate. Decent work experience, but no HLS extracurriculars to speak of except for a board position on a small student org.

3H/7P

29 Screeners
8 Callbacks
5 Accepted
1 Offer (V10), 3 Rejections, 1 No-Decision

Most of my friends who gunned NY are considering multiple V10 offers, but I feel like NY was still tougher than it was the last 2 years. Also, 7 of my 8 callbacks were from firms that would have been on a bid list of 15 firms. Either yield protect is very real or I have the worst poker face ever when expressing interest during a screener.

[Anonymous User]

EIP results:

1H/9P
K-JD
no extracurriculars at HLS except an affinity group
focus was strictly NYC corporate

14 screeners
3 CB (2 Cancelled)
1 offer (V10)

[TripTrip]

EIP results:

2H/7P/1LP

20 screeners
2CB
0 offers

8 cover letter targeted mail
1CB
0 offers

27 days of crying

I'm in the same boat.
What are you planning to do next?

Resume book, public interest, get grades up (as if I could just do it...) and try to get a district court clerkship to delay applying for jobs again.

I assume you've already talked to OCS, but you need to be mass mailing. Forget 8, you should send out several hundred letters/resumes. There are TONS of threads here on TLS about how to do this. You're on the tail end of when you can do this, but it may still work. Forget any sense of prestige or selectivity that you have. A market paying job is a market paying job. (This is if you want to go the firm route. If you actually want public interest, go for it. But PI is not really a backup to firms as a post-law school career option. The reverse is more true.)

Good luck OP.

+1

Forget targeted cover letters. Get your resume in front of as many eyeballs as possible. Target smaller markets with firms you've never heard of.

[Single-Malt-Liquor]

EIP results:

2H/7P/1LP

20 screeners
2CB
0 offers

8 cover letter targeted mail
1CB
0 offers

27 days of crying

I'm in the same boat.
What are you planning to do next?

Resume book, public interest, get grades up (as if I could just do it...) and try to get a district court clerkship to delay applying for jobs again.

I assume you've already talked to OCS, but you need to be mass mailing. Forget 8, you should send out several hundred letters/resumes. There are TONS of threads here on TLS about how to do this. You're on the tail end of when you can do this, but it may still work. Forget any sense of prestige or selectivity that you have. A market paying job is a market paying job. (This is if you want to go the firm route. If you actually want public interest, go for it. But PI is not really a backup to firms as a post-law school career option. The reverse is more true.)

Good luck OP.

+1

Forget targeted cover letters. Get your resume in front of as many eyeballs as possible. Target smaller markets with firms you've never heard of.

+all of TLS

[Anonymous User]

Grades: 1 DS, 5 H, 4 P
Market: Texas
WE: Above average, but not Goldman/BCG

Screeners: 15
CBs: 8
CBs accepted: 6
Offers: 2

No luck on the lit boutiques, but happy with the offers.

[heythatslife]

I'm a below average interviewer who went all NY all Corporate. Decent work experience, but no HLS extracurriculars to speak of except for a board position on a small student org.

3H/7P

29 Screeners
8 Callbacks
5 Accepted
1 Offer (V10), 3 Rejections, 1 No-Decision

Most of my friends who gunned NY are considering multiple V10 offers, but I feel like NY was still tougher than it was the last 2 years. Also, 7 of my 8 callbacks were from firms that would have been on a bid list of 15 firms. Either yield protect is very real or I have the worst poker face ever when expressing interest during a screener.

Median at HLS is not a bad place to be in, but I find it hard to believe that yield protect applies at this grade range.

[Anonymous User]

Grades: 1 DS, 2 H, 7 P
Market: NY corporate
WE: 3 years, non-legal/non-finance

24 screeners
8 callbacks
4 accepted
2 offers (1 V10 & 1 V20)

[Anonymous User]

Grades: 1 DS / 3H / 6P
WE: 2 years generic

Silicon Valley (corporate)
20 screeners
10 CB (6 accepted)
4 offers

Texas (corporate)
4 screeners
4 CB (4 accepted)
2 offers

[Anonymous User]

3H/7P, 1 year non-impressive w/e, looked only at litigation

NY
10 screeners
3 CBs
2 offers (1 still silent)

Boston
6 screeners
2 CBs
0 offers (both still silent)

[Anonymous User]

1 DS / 3H / 6P
1 year of finance-based work experience

30 screeners
14 callbacks
9 accepted (5 DC and 4 Boston)
8 offers (4 DC and 4 Boston), 1 silent

[Anonymous User]

Any movement on CS?

[Anonymous User]

4 H / 6 P
NY market only

12 screeners, 10 callbacks, 4 accepted, 4 offers (4 V10s)
3 years strong work experience, 1L SA

[Anonymous User]

Screener ding from Morgan Lewis and Bockius (lol)

[Anonymous User]

Seconded on the question as to whether anyone has had any movement on CS from yesterday...

[Anonymous User]

3 H/7 P
Split Boston and DC; good work experience and strong interviewer
22 screeners
17 CBs (7 in Boston, 10 in DC)
12 CBs accepted (5 in Boston, 7 in DC)
11 offers (4 in Boston, 7 in DC)

[Anonymous User]

1 DS, 4 H, 5 P
KJD, but with multiple law-related internships
Above average interviewer
NY corporate exclusively

22 Screeners, 14 CB offers, 9 accepted, 7 actually attended

3 offers, 3 rejections, 1 radio silence

[Anonymous User]

EIP results:

2H/7P/1LP

20 screeners
2CB
0 offers

8 cover letter targeted mail
1CB
0 offers

27 days of crying

Anon OP here: 1 of the targeted letters saved the day. What I took as 4 weeks of radio silence, finally converted to an offer. Slightly below market Vnothing. But, by-golly, I'm employed. D.C. is one helluva market with an LP ladies and gents... one helluva market indeed.

[Mack.Hambleton]

EIP results:

2H/7P/1LP

20 screeners
2CB
0 offers

8 cover letter targeted mail
1CB
0 offers

27 days of crying

Anon OP here: 1 of the targeted letters saved the day. What I took as 4 weeks of radio silence, finally converted to an offer. Slightly below market Vnothing. But, by-golly, I'm employed. D.C. is one helluva market with an LP ladies and gents... one helluva market indeed.

Congrats, always good to see stories like this