Milbank/Davis Polk/Cravath Scale: NYC to 215-415k Forum

[Anonymous User]

Lmfao that CWT rant has big "Yale and Columbia" energy

"The one yalie who somehow strikes out only to end up at CWT"

Can we go after white & case next? Every firm has its turn on TLS. I'm tired of going after K&E and CWT. Let's talk about how the biggest chads and lowest IQs end up at white & case.

W&C associate here. can confirm I am both chad and low iq. may have had higher iq pre biglaw. am not sure of anything anymore.

where is my money

[Anonymous User]

Lmfao that CWT rant has big "Yale and Columbia" energy

"The one yalie who somehow strikes out only to end up at CWT"

Can we go after white & case next? Every firm has its turn on TLS. I'm tired of going after K&E and CWT. Let's talk about how the biggest chads and lowest IQs end up at white & case.

W&C associate here. can confirm I am both chad and low iq. may have had higher iq pre biglaw. am not sure of anything anymore.

where is my money

I think my iq has dropped since I started working in big law. used to be well rounded, curious, and a great party guest. these days, I bore myself.

[Anonymous User]

Can't wait for the shitfest of comments here at 10am tomorrow

[Anonymous User]

Lmfao that CWT rant has big "Yale and Columbia" energy

"The one yalie who somehow strikes out only to end up at CWT"

Can we go after white & case next? Every firm has its turn on TLS. I'm tired of going after K&E and CWT. Let's talk about how the biggest chads and lowest IQs end up at white & case.

W&C associate here. can confirm I am both chad and low iq. may have had higher iq pre biglaw. am not sure of anything anymore.

where is my money

I think my iq has dropped since I started working in big law. used to be well rounded, curious, and a great party guest. these days, I bore myself.

What's a party is that something people with a life do.

[Anonymous User]

The dumbest biglaw attorneys I've ever worked with, by a mile, all came from Troutman.

Let's stick to actual biglaw hmm

Allen & Overy
They only take from the bottom of the barrel

I nominate Akin Gump

Baker McKenzie routinely takes 2.x GPAs out of lower T-14s

People at t14's get 2.x GPA's? Isn't that, like, illegal?

You have to really try. At my lower T-14, anything below a flat B was pretty much punitive.

at my T-14 i'm pretty sure baker only takes URMs. career counselor told me not to bother bidding on them because for the past two years they've focused on increasing diversity. hey at least they're walking the walk.

[Anonymous User]

Lmfao that CWT rant has big "Yale and Columbia" energy

"The one yalie who somehow strikes out only to end up at CWT"

Can we go after white & case next? Every firm has its turn on TLS. I'm tired of going after K&E and CWT. Let's talk about how the biggest chads and lowest IQs end up at white & case.

W&C associate here. can confirm I am both chad and low iq. may have had higher iq pre biglaw. am not sure of anything anymore.

where is my money

I think my iq has dropped since I started working in big law. used to be well rounded, curious, and a great party guest. these days, I bore myself.

What's a party is that something people with a life do.

Love that we can downplay this here (humor is my only coping mechanism) but this is one of the aspects of biglaw that depresses me the most. I'm often feeling like I don't know shit about shit outside of finance news. In the tiny bit of free time that I do get, I'm fucking tired and want to lounge or sleep or attend to my partner. Usually too exhausted to expend mental energy on anything that takes effort when I'm not working. It's miserable.

[Anonymous User]

Those craven cheapskates better raise my fucking salary tomorrow.

[Anonymous User]

Those craven cheapskates better raise my fucking salary tomorrow.

They probably aren't going to during the meeting tomorrow for a host of reasons that make sense but how much do we think they really care about the meeting being firm-wide and staff not getting raises like the attorneys? I don't work at a law firm yet so I'm inquiring more than I am debating. Just seems to me that all meetings at these firms are going to be about the attorneys ultimately, despite agenda items that apply to staff. Are staff likely to really feel slighted by something like this?

[Anonymous User]

Came across this on another forum once and it perfectly describes the good folk of TLS

"First: although biglaw lawyers are very smart and logical, they are all about their own personal money. Me coming out of ten years in the nonprofit world, I was amazed that such smart people were dedicating all those brains solely to their personal wealth, with no desire to spread in out to apply it to greater causes."

[Anonymous User]

Came across this on another forum once and it perfectly describes the good folk of TLS

"First: although biglaw lawyers are very smart and logical, they are all about their own personal money. Me coming out of ten years in the nonprofit world, I was amazed that such smart people were dedicating all those brains solely to their personal wealth, with no desire to spread in out to apply it to greater causes."

I don't know about you guys but I spend 70 hours per week working for banks and pharmaceutical companies because it makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

[Anonymous User]

Came across this on another forum once and it perfectly describes the good folk of TLS

"First: although biglaw lawyers are very smart and logical, they are all about their own personal money. Me coming out of ten years in the nonprofit world, I was amazed that such smart people were dedicating all those brains solely to their personal wealth, with no desire to spread in out to apply it to greater causes."

Screw that attitude. People care about money everywhere. Nobody says no thanks to a raise.

My job is a job. Idk what great causes you think I should be involved in, but the vast majority of people just go about their lives living for themselves. I donate to charity and am part of a community, that's enough for me.

[Anonymous User]

Came across this on another forum once and it perfectly describes the good folk of TLS

"First: although biglaw lawyers are very smart and logical, they are all about their own personal money. Me coming out of ten years in the nonprofit world, I was amazed that such smart people were dedicating all those brains solely to their personal wealth, with no desire to spread in out to apply it to greater causes."

Screw that attitude. People care about money everywhere. Nobody says no thanks to a raise.

My job is a job. Idk what great causes you think I should be involved in, but the vast majority of people just go about their lives living for themselves. I donate to charity and am part of a community, that's enough for me.

It was more of a lighthearted post poking fun at the people (myself included) in this thread that are rightfully concerned about when their firms will announce a raise. It's not that deep.

[Anonymous User]

The dumbest biglaw attorneys I've ever worked with, by a mile, all came from Troutman.

Let's stick to actual biglaw hmm

Allen & Overy
They only take from the bottom of the barrel

I nominate Akin Gump

Baker McKenzie routinely takes 2.x GPAs out of lower T-14s

Kasowitz, Orrick, Friend Frank

[Moneytrees]

I always thought it was kind of cool that CWT is the oldest law firm in the country (or is it just NYC?)

[Anonymous User]

I always thought it was kind of cool that CWT is the oldest law firm in the country (or is it just NYC?)

There’s some little PA firm (iirc) that’s a few years older, so technically second-oldest in the U.S. and oldest in NY. Agree it’s actually pretty cool, seems like a missed opportunity that they’re not able to generate some more prestige out of it (as far as the marginal prestige differences between V10 and V50 go, I guess)

[Anonymous User]

I always thought it was kind of cool that CWT is the oldest law firm in the country (or is it just NYC?)

This website claims it's a Philly firm called Rawle Henderson, est 1783. https://usabynumbers.com/oldest-law-firms-in-the-us/

I'm sure in Japan there's a law firm that also makes electronics that dates to a fabric trade group from the 1500s.

[Anonymous User]

I nominate Sidley Austin. Can't speak for every office but I've had to rely on transactional attorneys in the NY office of Sidley Austin. My god. The incompetence.

According to a friend at NW, Sidley Austin took this guy. Not that you can't tell from his profile but his GPA was not above median.

https://www.tiktok.com/@jawnathanroger

Sidley is a bunch of morons and blowhards.

[Anonymous User]

It's also really cool how some firms have names of actual famous people. Davis of Davis Polk was the Dem nominee in 1924. Willkie of Willkie Farr was the R nominee in 1940.

[Anonymous User]

It's also really cool how some firms have names of actual famous people. Davis of Davis Polk was the Dem nominee in 1924. Willkie of Willkie Farr was the R nominee in 1940.

Are they actually famous if absolutely no one knows who they are

[Anonymous User]

It's also really cool how some firms have names of actual famous people. Davis of Davis Polk was the Dem nominee in 1924. Willkie of Willkie Farr was the R nominee in 1940.

Are they actually famous if absolutely no one knows who they are

I know and that's really all that counts. Lol. I guess "historical figures" fits better than famous

[Anonymous User]

It's also really cool how some firms have names of actual famous people. Davis of Davis Polk was the Dem nominee in 1924. Willkie of Willkie Farr was the R nominee in 1940.

Somewhat cooler than the former named partner at Bracewell

[Anonymous User]

The dumbest biglaw attorneys I've ever worked with, by a mile, all came from Troutman.

Let's stick to actual biglaw hmm

Allen & Overy
They only take from the bottom of the barrel

I nominate Akin Gump

Baker McKenzie routinely takes 2.x GPAs out of lower T-14s

Kasowitz, Orrick, Friend Frank

I nominate DLA Piper. The lawyers there typically have no idea what they are doing, and whenever I happened to be on the other side in deals, I had to clean up their shit.

[Anonymous User]

It's also really cool how some firms have names of actual famous people. Davis of Davis Polk was the Dem nominee in 1924. Willkie of Willkie Farr was the R nominee in 1940.

Are they actually famous if absolutely no one knows who they are

I know and that's really all that counts. Lol. I guess "historical figures" fits better than famous

Torys (a major firm in Toronto) is named after its founder John Tory, who is the father of Toronto mayor John story (and who is the son of yet another John Tory).

More interesting: Keanu Reeves is the grandson of tommy Douglas, who is basically the guy who brought Canada public healthcare.

I know that no one reading this cares about any of these fun facts.

[tlsthrowaway1306]

Broke: Cadwalader is full of morons.

Woke: Kramer Levin is full of morons.

Bespoke: They’re all full of morons. Especially Cravath.

And, if a Cravath bro or broette is reading this: it’s not because we’re afraid of you. I sincerely get happy when you’re on the other side of the v. because y’all have a tendency to utterly fuck up cases.

[Anonymous User]

It's also really cool how some firms have names of actual famous people. Davis of Davis Polk was the Dem nominee in 1924. Willkie of Willkie Farr was the R nominee in 1940.

Are they actually famous if absolutely no one knows who they are

I know and that's really all that counts. Lol. I guess "historical figures" fits better than famous

Torys (a major firm in Toronto) is named after its founder John Tory, who is the father of Toronto mayor John story (and who is the son of yet another John Tory).

More interesting: Keanu Reeves is the grandson of tommy Douglas, who is basically the guy who brought Canada public healthcare.

I know that no one reading this cares about any of these fun facts.

Is John Tory a Tory?

Herzog, Fox & Ne'eman is the biggest law firm in Israel. It is named for Chaim Herzog, later president of Israel, and father of the current president of Israel, Isaac Herzog. Ne'eman was finance and justice minister.