Milbank/Davis Polk/Cravath Scale: NYC to 215-415k Forum

[Anonymous User]

Lmfao that CWT rant has big "Yale and Columbia" energy

"The one yalie who somehow strikes out only to end up at CWT"

Can we go after white & case next? Every firm has its turn on TLS. I'm tired of going after K&E and CWT. Let's talk about how the biggest chads and lowest IQs end up at white & case.

I'm tired of the same punching bags over and over again. Can we pick on some random firm that never gets much attention on here?

I nominate Sidley Austin. Can't speak for every office but I've had to rely on transactional attorneys in the NY office of Sidley Austin. My god. The incompetence.

[Anonymous User]

My first virtual law firm event was in spring and CWT sent 6 associates. By OCI, all 6 of those associates were gone.

They were not of fitting constitution to handle the Rigors of Cadwalader.

[Anonymous User]

The dumbest biglaw attorneys I've ever worked with, by a mile, all came from Troutman.

[Anonymous User]

The dumbest biglaw attorneys I've ever worked with, by a mile, all came from Troutman.

Let's stick to actual biglaw hmm

[Anonymous User]

I nominate Sidley Austin. Can't speak for every office but I've had to rely on transactional attorneys in the NY office of Sidley Austin. My god. The incompetence.

According to a friend at NW, Sidley Austin took this guy. Not that you can't tell from his profile but his GPA was not above median.

https://www.tiktok.com/@jawnathanroger

[Anonymous User]

The dumbest biglaw attorneys I've ever worked with, by a mile, all came from Troutman.

Let's stick to actual biglaw hmm

I'm dying. The claws are out tonight but I'm having fun.

[Anonymous User]

The dumbest biglaw attorneys I've ever worked with, by a mile, all came from Troutman.

Let's stick to actual biglaw hmm

Allen & Overy
They only take from the bottom of the barrel

[Anonymous User]

There's a reason my 1.5 years at a V10 law firm stays at the top of the resume even after I've lateraled twice. CWT? Sidley? hah

[Anonymous User]

The dumbest biglaw attorneys I've ever worked with, by a mile, all came from Troutman.

Let's stick to actual biglaw hmm

Allen & Overy
They only take from the bottom of the barrel

I nominate Akin Gump

[Anonymous User]

The dumbest biglaw attorneys I've ever worked with, by a mile, all came from Troutman.

Let's stick to actual biglaw hmm

Allen & Overy
They only take from the bottom of the barrel

I nominate Akin Gump

Baker McKenzie routinely takes 2.x GPAs out of lower T-14s

[Anonymous User]

Any law student nervous for their upcoming biglaw interview should just read this thread. The image of the intimidating lawyer in a sophisticated profession will go out the window pretty quickly.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone know the number of firms that pay the full scale, including all bonuses? Maybe 150 firms?

[Anonymous User]

Any law student nervous for their upcoming biglaw interview should just read this thread. The image of the intimidating lawyer in a sophisticated profession will go out the window pretty quickly.

As a third year associate at a very prestigious firm, I just want to say that you ain't wrong

[Anonymous User]

Akin Gump sounds like a disease from the 1700s. Allen & Overy is the manufacturer of the "medicine" used to treat it (ingredients: alcohol, opium, cocaine, urine).

[Anonymous User]

My first virtual law firm event was in spring and CWT sent 6 associates. By OCI, all 6 of those associates were gone.

They were not of fitting constitution to handle the Rigors of Cadwalader.

not sure if I'm laughing with you or at you at this point

[Anonymous User]

The dumbest biglaw attorneys I've ever worked with, by a mile, all came from Troutman.

Let's stick to actual biglaw hmm

Allen & Overy
They only take from the bottom of the barrel

I nominate Akin Gump

Baker McKenzie routinely takes 2.x GPAs out of lower T-14s

Foley & Lardner takes the OCI strikeouts at my t14.

[stickershocked]

The dumbest biglaw attorneys I've ever worked with, by a mile, all came from Troutman.

Let's stick to actual biglaw hmm

Allen & Overy
They only take from the bottom of the barrel

I nominate Akin Gump

Baker McKenzie routinely takes 2.x GPAs out of lower T-14s

Foley & Lardner takes the OCI strikeouts at my t14.

Who?

[Anonymous User]

Is it true that Mayer Brown doesn't advance you to the next class year if you don't make your hours? If so, they should be the punching bag in every thread for all time.

[Anonymous User]

The dumbest biglaw attorneys I've ever worked with, by a mile, all came from Troutman.

Let's stick to actual biglaw hmm

Allen & Overy
They only take from the bottom of the barrel

I nominate Akin Gump

Baker McKenzie routinely takes 2.x GPAs out of lower T-14s

Latham always seems to have way too many random associates on every call, like how many fucking NoteTakers do you need

[Anonymous User]

I'm tired of the same punching bags over and over again. Can we pick on some random firm that never gets much attention on here?

Cadwalader defender anon above. What if someone in CWT recruiting has taken the position that "no publicity is bad publicity" and stokes these flame wars? Part of me thinks it's pretty baller how much we punch above our weight on here in terms of mentions.

[Anonymous User]

Lol, you’re telling us that all of the boies Schiller associates who lateraled to cadwalader are now worse off? You’re saying that a 60 year old judge won’t hire them from New York’s oldest law firm because their vault ranking is too low? You’re saying their Morgan Stanley is fine hiring them and working with them as outside counsel but won’t take them in house? You’re saying that the rainmakers at cwt are putting their client relationships at stake by not training their associates and hiring morons? In my year at my t14 I knew enough people who struck out at OCI to fill half of cadwalader’s summer class—people are just upset that we have down to earth partners who know that there is more to ability to succeed in the law beyond where you went to school.

Uhh, have you looked at the bios of the Boies Schiller attorneys who lateralled to Cadwalader? Take a gander and you'll see something pretty noticeable.

Don't know if I'm just thick but I'm not following this. Any hints?

I figured they were trying to say that the attorneys were somehow deficient or went to shitty schools. First person I came across went to Cornell Law and worked at Lehman and as a managing director at Goldman. Is this what you meant?

Yeah I meant the associates, not partners. Gravante and the rest of his (partner) team are as legit as they come. The associates? Well, it's BSF, what do you expect at this point...

[Anonymous User]

The dumbest biglaw attorneys I've ever worked with, by a mile, all came from Troutman.

Let's stick to actual biglaw hmm

Allen & Overy
They only take from the bottom of the barrel

I nominate Akin Gump

Baker McKenzie routinely takes 2.x GPAs out of lower T-14s

People at t14's get 2.x GPA's? Isn't that, like, illegal?

[Anonymous User]

The dumbest biglaw attorneys I've ever worked with, by a mile, all came from Troutman.

Let's stick to actual biglaw hmm

Allen & Overy
They only take from the bottom of the barrel

I nominate Akin Gump

Baker McKenzie routinely takes 2.x GPAs out of lower T-14s

People at t14's get 2.x GPA's? Isn't that, like, illegal?

You have to really try. At my lower T-14, anything below a flat B was pretty much punitive.

[Anonymous User]

Lol, you’re telling us that all of the boies Schiller associates who lateraled to cadwalader are now worse off? You’re saying that a 60 year old judge won’t hire them from New York’s oldest law firm because their vault ranking is too low? You’re saying their Morgan Stanley is fine hiring them and working with them as outside counsel but won’t take them in house? You’re saying that the rainmakers at cwt are putting their client relationships at stake by not training their associates and hiring morons? In my year at my t14 I knew enough people who struck out at OCI to fill half of cadwalader’s summer class—people are just upset that we have down to earth partners who know that there is more to ability to succeed in the law beyond where you went to school.

Uhh, have you looked at the bios of the Boies Schiller attorneys who lateralled to Cadwalader? Take a gander and you'll see something pretty noticeable.

Don't know if I'm just thick but I'm not following this. Any hints?

I figured they were trying to say that the attorneys were somehow deficient or went to shitty schools. First person I came across went to Cornell Law and worked at Lehman and as a managing director at Goldman. Is this what you meant?

Yeah I meant the associates, not partners. Gravante and the rest of his (partner) team are as legit as they come. The associates? Well, it's BSF, what do you expect at this point...

So, uh, what's wrong with the associates?

[Anonymous User]

Lol, you’re telling us that all of the boies Schiller associates who lateraled to cadwalader are now worse off? You’re saying that a 60 year old judge won’t hire them from New York’s oldest law firm because their vault ranking is too low? You’re saying their Morgan Stanley is fine hiring them and working with them as outside counsel but won’t take them in house? You’re saying that the rainmakers at cwt are putting their client relationships at stake by not training their associates and hiring morons? In my year at my t14 I knew enough people who struck out at OCI to fill half of cadwalader’s summer class—people are just upset that we have down to earth partners who know that there is more to ability to succeed in the law beyond where you went to school.

Uhh, have you looked at the bios of the Boies Schiller attorneys who lateralled to Cadwalader? Take a gander and you'll see something pretty noticeable.

Don't know if I'm just thick but I'm not following this. Any hints?

I figured they were trying to say that the attorneys were somehow deficient or went to shitty schools. First person I came across went to Cornell Law and worked at Lehman and as a managing director at Goldman. Is this what you meant?

Yeah I meant the associates, not partners. Gravante and the rest of his (partner) team are as legit as they come. The associates? Well, it's BSF, what do you expect at this point...

So, uh, what's wrong with the associates?

Nothing, I assume this guys is talking about people that came with Sean O'Shea from his lit boutique to BSF and then left to Cadwalader. Not sure what they're talking about with regard to the associates because BSF used to be elite, so almost all the associates that left recently were highly qualified. Either way, it's a dumb argument because no matter how much Cadwalader sucks, it exists and BSF might not in a year lmao