Michigan 2014 OCI Thread!!!!!!! Forum

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:43 pm

I am a Michigan alum here. I wanted to comment on a few things.

First, I am surprised that everyone did not know prior to OCI that Chicago is a much, much harder market to break into than New York. I did OCI three years ago and it was common knowledge then. If you look at the numbers of total SA spots per city, this becomes very apparent.

Second, grades trump all. If you do not exceed a firm's threshold, no amount of "relevant" work experience will matter. The flip side is if you have exceptional grades but no work experience, no firm will be out of play. I can say that both from personal experience and knowing the outcome of numerous friends. Of course take this as a pure anecdote: I went straight-though, had good grades, and got offered 15+ CBs. And I would not say my results were atypical for the top of the class, even those without any or very limited work experience. I also doubt that work experience helps as much as law review. It's possible, I guess. But if you control for grades, law review appears to only slightly help anyway.

Of course, this is not to say work experience does not matter or that you shouldn't get it. Once you clear a firm's gpa threshold, work experience can help you demonstrate that you are a mature candidate who can be entrusted to act responsibly. And older, mature candidates may get better grades, or otherwise do better in law school. So I definitely agree that for most people delaying law school can often be the right answer.

Anyways, good luck everyone. If you don't have an offer, please please keep mass mailing and hustling any other way you can.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:17 pm

Anonymous User wrote:What is "very relevant work experience"

Worked 5 years in the X industry, wants to do X law. It's pretty niche.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:23 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Maybe my sample has some bias, but the vast majority of the people I've talked to (including people around median) have some CBs, and I know several people who have the V10 minus a couple firms.
The sample's bias being?

The sample's bias being that it may be that the people who have gotten CBs are the ones who are willing to ask what's going on with my CBs and thus are the folks among my friends that I know about.

For sample purposes for future years, I had a strong GPA and good work experience. I did about 19 screeners and got 9 callbacks. All of the callbacks were V20 firms. The bunch of firms outside the V20 that I screened with didn't offer me CBs. The ones in the V10 did with a couple exceptions.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:56 pm

has any michiganians here receieved a simpson offer?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:09 pm

Holland & Knight ding (Chi office)

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:33 pm

Has anyone gotten offers? If so, which market? Or which firm, if you don't mind saying.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:33 pm

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 1:07 am

I think a lot of classmates stopped browsing/posting on this thread since OCI ended. However, it still can be of use to discuss offers so we have a general timeframe for particular firms' CB-->offer period.

My first CB is Friday. Then I have 3 next week (all Chicago).

Good luck to everyone. This is the homestretch. Bring it home and convert those CBs.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:07 am

Yes on the offers. I know a number of people with offers from Skadden, Sullivan and Cromwell, Davis Polk, Simpson, etc.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:07 am

There seem to have been no news from Cahill, so I guess I will let everyone know I got snail mail sing. If anyone cares at this point

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:33 am

Kirkland NY offers are going out.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:39 am

Jones day ny offer

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:20 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Jones day ny offer

when was your callback?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:28 pm

Any post-CB movement at Detroit firms?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:07 pm

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:12 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:There seem to have been no news from Cahill, so I guess I will let everyone know I got snail mail sing. If anyone cares at this point
When was your callback if you don't mind me asking?
(I take it you meant you "got snail mail ding")
Has anyone from Michigan gotten Cahill offers yet? I know other threads have people saying they got offers already.

Oh no, that wasn't even a callback. Just got a ding from the screener I had. That's why the whole "if anyone cares at this point". It's just weird that there were no news about Cahill here at all.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:39 pm

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:42 pm

Cahill just started interviewing here a few years ago. Discussed in it's chamber associates profile. That explains the low number of associates.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:51 pm

edit: oops, did not think of that. My bad

ASCIII · Post by **ASCIII** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:18 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I looked at the OCP bidding data from last year...

to poster above: could you redact your post? this information is supposed to be kept confidential
I have data from 2012. you can PM me

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:09 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Jones day ny offer
when was your callback?

8/19, offer 8/20. Good luck!

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:17 pm

Looks like we weren't alone in the Chicago slaughter. Check out Northwestern's thread.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:19 pm

Did anyone get an offer from Sidley CHI yet?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:51 pm

Just because no one has posted info regarding a firm on this site, don't be confident there haven't been offers. I don't want to post information about an offer here so not to out myself. ( and many classmates don't even look at this thread).

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:24 am

Anonymous User wrote:Any post-CB movement at Detroit firms?

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