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Re: Lawyers: What's Your Typical Day?
Government attorney. I recently left big law (about 3 years) to take a 9-5.
6am - walk my dog.
615ish to 7ish - coffee and interneting.
730 - drive to work. Takes 40 mins to an hour depending on traffic.
830 - check the very few emails I ever get.
9-5 or 6, sometimes til 7 if I’m in a groove - research, write, review stuff. I have a very writing-heavy position so that’s all I do most days. I go to court every now and then but rarely.
I absolutely love my job. I took a dramatic pay cut, but I paid off my loans last year so I could GTFO of private practice.
6am - walk my dog.
615ish to 7ish - coffee and interneting.
730 - drive to work. Takes 40 mins to an hour depending on traffic.
830 - check the very few emails I ever get.
9-5 or 6, sometimes til 7 if I’m in a groove - research, write, review stuff. I have a very writing-heavy position so that’s all I do most days. I go to court every now and then but rarely.
I absolutely love my job. I took a dramatic pay cut, but I paid off my loans last year so I could GTFO of private practice.
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Re: Lawyers: What's Your Typical Day?
Out of curiosity, how are you ensuring that your dog gets potty breaks during the day? I'm curious how others with dogs are juggling their full time jobs and caregiver responsibilities, since there isn't a standard strategy for us (like there is for human children, i.e., child care).burritotaco wrote:Government attorney. I recently left big law (about 3 years) to take a 9-5.
6am - walk my dog.
615ish to 7ish - coffee and interneting.
730 - drive to work. Takes 40 mins to an hour depending on traffic.
830 - check the very few emails I ever get.
9-5 or 6, sometimes til 7 if I’m in a groove - research, write, review stuff. I have a very writing-heavy position so that’s all I do most days. I go to court every now and then but rarely.
I absolutely love my job. I took a dramatic pay cut, but I paid off my loans last year so I could GTFO of private practice.
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Re: Lawyers: What's Your Typical Day?
Former anti-trust lit/compliance/deal support. I think most people would call it compliance but my partners said they were lit so whatever and we did occasionally prepare to go to litigation (although I can't remember actually going to litigation ever.) I quit about 2.5 years in.
Most (>60%) of the work revolved around dealing with FTC info requests, negotiating terms of mergers to address antitrust concerns, and occasional deal support. Hours were surprisingly predictable since almost nothing was a fire drill because the bottleneck was almost always waiting for FTC/DOJ to respond to a 2/3 page email/memo.
5:50am: wake up. and do morning rituals
6:30am: catch apartment's shuttle to subway
6:45am: subway and check overnight emails for urgent matters
~7:15am: gym unless there are urgent matters
9:00am: respond to emails
~9:30am: there is usually free breakfast around somewhere in the building. I made it a hobby to find it. Failure meant only coffee and banana for breakfast.
10:00am: typically first calls/meetings prep around this time. Usually, there is nothing that urgent and it's usually small matters that could be dispatched with an email or two. These will drag on typically for a while anyway.
~11:30 After clearing early meetings, I start looking at my to-do list to see if I have memos (didn't write a lot of full memos, but there were some) to review/write. A sticky note on monitor if something needs to be done within a day or two.
~11:45 lunch. I typically left early for lunch because I am antisocial and don't like long lunches.
~12:00 gym and shower. Yeah, gym again, and the real reason I want short lunches. I am also really cheap and don't want to buy body wash/shampoo (not even trolling on this point) when I feel like I paid for it with my overpriced gym membership.
~1:15pm respond to more emails and questions. The afternoon was also when I usually met the deal teams for updates. Sometimes I was also a de facto corporate associate doing what a regular M&A associate would do.
~1:15pm to 5:00pm typically populated by various meetings. I'd say about 2 or 3 days a week it involved leaving the office for meetings. I also tried to turn around review comments at this time and ask whatever questions I had.
5:00pm to 6:00 trying to clarify what needed to be done the night of. Usually there is nothing that required staying up.
6:30 - shower at the gym if I was busy during lunch and didn't get to it.
6:30 - go home
~7:15 - get home. eat dinner with wife. Almost always take out but if I got nothing on my plate I'd usually make dinner.
(half of the nights) 8pm to 11pm - do memos and research. I was just much more effective at night time with nobody interrupting if I needed to actually write a memo and/or do research.
I didn't do much for work usually during weekends but I still always carried my phone/laptop with me (yes, even laptop) because although I didn't get a lot of work on weekends, when I did, they usually were super fire drills (like the deal team literally trying to close over weekend to announce for Monday open and remembered last minute there were antitrust issues.) They were free enough I was able to commit to teaching LSAT on Saturdays. I averaged ~2 billable hours per weekend I think.
I am no longer in biglaw. I found the work mind-numbingly boring and ended up with a tax LLM doing int tax at big 4 before bailing on that too in less than a year (it was even more boring) and back in what amounts to middle-market ibanking. I make less (not much less to be sure including bonuses on good years) money, have less job security, work more (and more unpredictable) hours now but I like my job a lot more. I just like being in the driver's seat for deals and not having to juggle 12 projects/deadlines and being able to focus on just 2 or 3 live deals at a time. And I realized I like Excel way more than Word.
Most (>60%) of the work revolved around dealing with FTC info requests, negotiating terms of mergers to address antitrust concerns, and occasional deal support. Hours were surprisingly predictable since almost nothing was a fire drill because the bottleneck was almost always waiting for FTC/DOJ to respond to a 2/3 page email/memo.
5:50am: wake up. and do morning rituals
6:30am: catch apartment's shuttle to subway
6:45am: subway and check overnight emails for urgent matters
~7:15am: gym unless there are urgent matters
9:00am: respond to emails
~9:30am: there is usually free breakfast around somewhere in the building. I made it a hobby to find it. Failure meant only coffee and banana for breakfast.
10:00am: typically first calls/meetings prep around this time. Usually, there is nothing that urgent and it's usually small matters that could be dispatched with an email or two. These will drag on typically for a while anyway.
~11:30 After clearing early meetings, I start looking at my to-do list to see if I have memos (didn't write a lot of full memos, but there were some) to review/write. A sticky note on monitor if something needs to be done within a day or two.
~11:45 lunch. I typically left early for lunch because I am antisocial and don't like long lunches.
~12:00 gym and shower. Yeah, gym again, and the real reason I want short lunches. I am also really cheap and don't want to buy body wash/shampoo (not even trolling on this point) when I feel like I paid for it with my overpriced gym membership.
~1:15pm respond to more emails and questions. The afternoon was also when I usually met the deal teams for updates. Sometimes I was also a de facto corporate associate doing what a regular M&A associate would do.
~1:15pm to 5:00pm typically populated by various meetings. I'd say about 2 or 3 days a week it involved leaving the office for meetings. I also tried to turn around review comments at this time and ask whatever questions I had.
5:00pm to 6:00 trying to clarify what needed to be done the night of. Usually there is nothing that required staying up.
6:30 - shower at the gym if I was busy during lunch and didn't get to it.
6:30 - go home
~7:15 - get home. eat dinner with wife. Almost always take out but if I got nothing on my plate I'd usually make dinner.
(half of the nights) 8pm to 11pm - do memos and research. I was just much more effective at night time with nobody interrupting if I needed to actually write a memo and/or do research.
I didn't do much for work usually during weekends but I still always carried my phone/laptop with me (yes, even laptop) because although I didn't get a lot of work on weekends, when I did, they usually were super fire drills (like the deal team literally trying to close over weekend to announce for Monday open and remembered last minute there were antitrust issues.) They were free enough I was able to commit to teaching LSAT on Saturdays. I averaged ~2 billable hours per weekend I think.
I am no longer in biglaw. I found the work mind-numbingly boring and ended up with a tax LLM doing int tax at big 4 before bailing on that too in less than a year (it was even more boring) and back in what amounts to middle-market ibanking. I make less (not much less to be sure including bonuses on good years) money, have less job security, work more (and more unpredictable) hours now but I like my job a lot more. I just like being in the driver's seat for deals and not having to juggle 12 projects/deadlines and being able to focus on just 2 or 3 live deals at a time. And I realized I like Excel way more than Word.
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Re: Lawyers: What's Your Typical Day?
Sorry, been a while since I logged in.patent_guy wrote:Has it been worth going out on your own? Based on the contrast in schedules I can see why you wanted to do something else, but I imagine some of the financial stability is gone too.FND wrote:Currently I have my own firm doing transactional work:
7am - wake up, check emails
8:30 - drop kids off at school
8:45 - back to bed
10:00 - Client meeting if I have one, otherwise draft documents
12:00 - lunch (preferably with a referral source)
1:00 - client meeeting if I have one, otherwise draft documents
3:00 - pick up my kids from school
The rest of the day: either continue working on documents, or pray that one of my referral sources sends me a client
Back when I worked in-house at a structured lending boutique:
7am - check emails, respond to them
8am - arrive at work, find out what sh*t is about to hit the fan
8:30 - firedrills, lots of busywork that's probably meaningless; chasing or due diligence on open transactions
* far too often, be given an ad-hoc project that needs far more time than given
9:00 - emails from various companies we do business with start coming in. Even a quick "busy now, will respond later" eats into my response time to the firedrills
11:00-12:00 try to find an opportunity to eat a bite between calls
12:00 - emails from west coast start coming in. see 9:00.
Chase any outstanding documents, due diligence on open transactions, pray there isn't a firedrill
* get yelled at that the ad-hoc assignment I was given that morning, and needs about 10-15 hours, isn't ready yet
2:00 panic to close deals with a deadline that day
4:00 last minute rush to get deals done before the wire deadline
4:30 lots of emails and calls from anyone we do business with on the east coast, as they're looking to finish matters before going home at the end of the day
6:00-7:00 Finish any urgent matters and get out before it's too late
7:00-9:00 dinner and try to have a semblance of a life
9:00-11PM respond to all the emails that came from the west coast after I left the office (or that I ignored so I could leave the office)
-- does not include ad-hoc assignments that I somehow had to squeeze in on top of everything else, and would typically need far longer than management had patience for. Like, a 10-hour project that had to be done before lunch
Whether it's worth going out is a matter of perspective. Trading the horrible schedule for horrible pay is... scary. going a month or two without a paycheck is nerve wracking. But the lifestyle is awesome
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Re: Lawyers: What's Your Typical Day?
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Re: Lawyers: What's Your Typical Day?
in-house in a corporate/commercial counsel role at a private tech company in SF. DINK. did 3 years in big law mostly doing securities/cap markets work before making the switch a little less than a year ago.
6:30 AM: wake up
7:00 AM: run
7:45 AM: shower, get ready, etc.
8:45 AM: catch the bus, review emails and plan out my day during commute
9:15-9:30 AM: arrive at office, get coffee, eat some breakfast, make the rounds on my floor, etc.
10 - 12: respond to all overnight/morning emails, maybe have a short meeting, try to at least get one thing on my to-do list done before lunch (contract/term sheet/deck review, drafting, form creation, etc.)
12: catered lunch. i usually just eat at my desk and browse the internet. if i want to eat with friends, i opt to just go out.
12:30-5: my major work block. usually a couple of short meetings (or, if none, i try to get out of the office for coffee or something to break up the day).
5: start tying up loose ends, usually a lot of shooting the shit with my team at this point of the day, audit my to-do list and make my plan for tomorrow, get out any last emails.
5:30-6: leave office.
6:15-6:45: arrive home.
i will check my email a few times in the evenings but i pretty much only respond if i can answer it quickly/easily or if it is coming from someone in the c-suite. otherwise i just like to keep apprised of what is coming in. i think i've had to work past 8 pm two or three times (?) since starting, and on those rare occasions i was showered with praise/gratitude/goodwill for my efforts. never had to work a single weekend. it's such a dramatic departure from big law where working until 9 PM was a good day, working weekends was a given, and your clients didn't give a fuck about you personally.
6:30 AM: wake up
7:00 AM: run
7:45 AM: shower, get ready, etc.
8:45 AM: catch the bus, review emails and plan out my day during commute
9:15-9:30 AM: arrive at office, get coffee, eat some breakfast, make the rounds on my floor, etc.
10 - 12: respond to all overnight/morning emails, maybe have a short meeting, try to at least get one thing on my to-do list done before lunch (contract/term sheet/deck review, drafting, form creation, etc.)
12: catered lunch. i usually just eat at my desk and browse the internet. if i want to eat with friends, i opt to just go out.
12:30-5: my major work block. usually a couple of short meetings (or, if none, i try to get out of the office for coffee or something to break up the day).
5: start tying up loose ends, usually a lot of shooting the shit with my team at this point of the day, audit my to-do list and make my plan for tomorrow, get out any last emails.
5:30-6: leave office.
6:15-6:45: arrive home.
i will check my email a few times in the evenings but i pretty much only respond if i can answer it quickly/easily or if it is coming from someone in the c-suite. otherwise i just like to keep apprised of what is coming in. i think i've had to work past 8 pm two or three times (?) since starting, and on those rare occasions i was showered with praise/gratitude/goodwill for my efforts. never had to work a single weekend. it's such a dramatic departure from big law where working until 9 PM was a good day, working weekends was a given, and your clients didn't give a fuck about you personally.
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Re: Lawyers: What's Your Typical Day?
Do not want to throw this thread off, but have you posted about comp here (sounds like you hit the jackpot if you have a decent comp package):Anonymous User wrote:in-house in a corporate/commercial counsel role at a private tech company in SF. DINK. did 3 years in big law mostly doing securities/cap markets work before making the switch a little less than a year ago.
6:30 AM: wake up
7:00 AM: run
7:45 AM: shower, get ready, etc.
8:45 AM: catch the bus, review emails and plan out my day during commute
9:15-9:30 AM: arrive at office, get coffee, eat some breakfast, make the rounds on my floor, etc.
10 - 12: respond to all overnight/morning emails, maybe have a short meeting, try to at least get one thing on my to-do list done before lunch (contract/term sheet/deck review, drafting, form creation, etc.)
12: catered lunch. i usually just eat at my desk and browse the internet. if i want to eat with friends, i opt to just go out.
12:30-5: my major work block. usually a couple of short meetings (or, if none, i try to get out of the office for coffee or something to break up the day).
5: start tying up loose ends, usually a lot of shooting the shit with my team at this point of the day, audit my to-do list and make my plan for tomorrow, get out any last emails.
5:30-6: leave office.
6:15-6:45: arrive home.
i will check my email a few times in the evenings but i pretty much only respond if i can answer it quickly/easily or if it is coming from someone in the c-suite. otherwise i just like to keep apprised of what is coming in. i think i've had to work past 8 pm two or three times (?) since starting, and on those rare occasions i was showered with praise/gratitude/goodwill for my efforts. never had to work a single weekend. it's such a dramatic departure from big law where working until 9 PM was a good day, working weekends was a given, and your clients didn't give a fuck about you personally.
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Litigation in a large market but definitely regional (western US). Small firm (5 lawyers). My days are all over the place but a typical day I’m in the office instead of court or depositions goes like
530 wake up
630 leave
700 arrive
700-930 going through my email and routed documents (my office tracks things by running physical copies starting at the partner and ending at the paralegal with each of us adding/completing a task on it way through)
930-1130 work on what I got going on (motions, teleconferences, discovery, or especially report writing as I have some needy insurance clients that require constant report writing)
1130-1215 lunch
1215-330 same as before lunch
330-400 leave
415-445arrive at home
445-625 clear email respond to email and bill my time for the day
I have emails sent to my phone so keep an eye on them
Bed at 1030
I haven’t usually been working weekends but lately I’ve been swamped
Fortunately we have remote login
530 wake up
630 leave
700 arrive
700-930 going through my email and routed documents (my office tracks things by running physical copies starting at the partner and ending at the paralegal with each of us adding/completing a task on it way through)
930-1130 work on what I got going on (motions, teleconferences, discovery, or especially report writing as I have some needy insurance clients that require constant report writing)
1130-1215 lunch
1215-330 same as before lunch
330-400 leave
415-445arrive at home
445-625 clear email respond to email and bill my time for the day
I have emails sent to my phone so keep an eye on them
Bed at 1030
I haven’t usually been working weekends but lately I’ve been swamped
Fortunately we have remote login
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If you don’t mind, could you reveal a bit more about what gov job you have? And how you made the switch from big law to gov? Any advice? I’m in a regional but sort of big market. What you describe is the dream. I’m very into writing/research and occasional court. Thank you!burritotaco wrote:Government attorney. I recently left big law (about 3 years) to take a 9-5.
6am - walk my dog.
615ish to 7ish - coffee and interneting.
730 - drive to work. Takes 40 mins to an hour depending on traffic.
830 - check the very few emails I ever get.
9-5 or 6, sometimes til 7 if I’m in a groove - research, write, review stuff. I have a very writing-heavy position so that’s all I do most days. I go to court every now and then but rarely.
I absolutely love my job. I took a dramatic pay cut, but I paid off my loans last year so I could GTFO of private practice.
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Public interest attorney in niche area of law (think immigration, human trafficking, disability rights, etc.) This schedules reflects my pre-COVID-19 schedule and does not accurately reflect my schedule working from home. Organization is funded primarily through government grants, but the organization is an independent 501(c)(3).
8:30-9:30 am: Arrive at office and check my voice messages and emails. Respond to the ones that seem most urgent. I work with a lot of vulnerable populations that require fast response times on occasion.
- 9:30-12:00/30 pm: Respond to client e-mails and phone calls, conduct legal research, possibly draft responses to opposing counsel or parties that I am trying to negotiate resolutions with, provide legal advice to clients, and work on any outstanding projects funded by government grants.
- 12:00/30-1:00 pm: Lunch and checking websites.
- 1:00 pm-5/6:00 pm: Do same activities as before and possibly also draft publications for organization's website for client consumption/education, read/watch trainings and other updates to my practice area, have meetings with colleagues and supervisors to discuss current cases and projects.
- 6:00 pm go home and do home stuff, and hit sack around 10:00-11:00 pm.
Other activities that I do on occasion is visit clients at their homes or institutions. I also attend regional and national conferences touching on my practice area. Attend meetings with government agencies and occasionally represent clients in front of administrative bodies.
The pay and benefits could be better, but I get to feel fulfilled and happy while practicing law. I came from small law private practice where I made more money, but I was not terribly happy given all the conflict and toxic personalities. For me at least, going public interest has definitely been worth it.
8:30-9:30 am: Arrive at office and check my voice messages and emails. Respond to the ones that seem most urgent. I work with a lot of vulnerable populations that require fast response times on occasion.
- 9:30-12:00/30 pm: Respond to client e-mails and phone calls, conduct legal research, possibly draft responses to opposing counsel or parties that I am trying to negotiate resolutions with, provide legal advice to clients, and work on any outstanding projects funded by government grants.
- 12:00/30-1:00 pm: Lunch and checking websites.
- 1:00 pm-5/6:00 pm: Do same activities as before and possibly also draft publications for organization's website for client consumption/education, read/watch trainings and other updates to my practice area, have meetings with colleagues and supervisors to discuss current cases and projects.
- 6:00 pm go home and do home stuff, and hit sack around 10:00-11:00 pm.
Other activities that I do on occasion is visit clients at their homes or institutions. I also attend regional and national conferences touching on my practice area. Attend meetings with government agencies and occasionally represent clients in front of administrative bodies.
The pay and benefits could be better, but I get to feel fulfilled and happy while practicing law. I came from small law private practice where I made more money, but I was not terribly happy given all the conflict and toxic personalities. For me at least, going public interest has definitely been worth it.
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Re: Lawyers: What's Your Typical Day?
Who the fuck are you people waking up at 530 or 630am?
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Welcome to the world of lawyers 1) not in NYC biglaw and/or 2) with long commutes and/or 3) with little kids and/or 4) who are just morning people who like getting up early. Friends of mine who are in Cali biglaw were just talking about getting 5:30 am calls scheduled with people in NYC. And of course lots of non-biglaw jobs actually require you to be in the office (well, when that was a thing) by 8:30.
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I am a 2L at an average T14 and I get up at 5AM everyday, and let me tell you, it is awesome. Your day definitely becomes "longer" and you would get so much more done in the morning when it is still dark and so quiet outside. There is a mental boost in it, feeling the day is about to begin and the world is all yours.
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I get law school, especially 2L. I’m just impressed at how many people in biglaw can wake up that early given the late hours work often requires. Although when you figure in being in PST and dealing with EST clients or counterparty attorneys, I kind of get it. Though they then make me have to work late on my endfeminist.supporter wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:06 pm
I am a 2L at an average T14 and I get up at 5AM everyday, and let me tell you, it is awesome. Your day definitely becomes "longer" and you would get so much more done in the morning when it is still dark and so quiet outside. There is a mental boost in it, feeling the day is about to begin and the world is all yours.
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Accidental anon.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:26 amI get law school, especially 2L. I’m just impressed at how many people in biglaw can wake up that early given the late hours work often requires. Although when you figure in being in PST and dealing with EST clients or counterparty attorneys, I kind of get it. Though they then make me have to work late on my endfeminist.supporter wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:06 pm
I am a 2L at an average T14 and I get up at 5AM everyday, and let me tell you, it is awesome. Your day definitely becomes "longer" and you would get so much more done in the morning when it is still dark and so quiet outside. There is a mental boost in it, feeling the day is about to begin and the world is all yours.
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To be fair, I loathe getting up early and the only thing I’ve envied about NYC biglaw (apart from the paycheck of course) is that from what I hear, people roll in around 10 am all the time. My brain doesn’t really start working till I’ve been up for a while.
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Re: Lawyers: What's Your Typical Day?
Fed government attorney, who left a biglaw a few years ago, after billing 2800 back-to-back years. Here's my typical day:
6:30 - wake up
7:00 - check email (rarely ever find anything there)
7:15 - go to the gym or on a run
8:30 - shower, change, get ready for work
Around 9:15 - get to the office/my computer (WFH)
9:15 - drink coffee, check email again, peruse the internet, look at interesting legal developments (court opinions, cert petitions, etc.)
10:30 - drink coffee, review outlook calendar for upcoming deadlines
10:45 - drink coffee, review pleadings/discovery/case dockets, do legal research, write (almost always working on at least one motion to dismiss or some appeal), chat with colleagues about issues in our cases or life in general
5:35 - check out from work, or if i'm deep in a motion, drink coffee and continue working until i'm not feeling it anymore
Court appearances and department meetings occasionally fall somewhere therein, but those don't happen more than once a week I'd say, and some weeks i'm entirely unmolested to work at my leisure. Almost all of my actual work consists of doing legal research and writing motions.
Like the gov attorney poster above, i love my job, and while it hurts to think about the pay cut, this is something that I've always wanted to do and my quality of life has skyrocketed since working in private practice. Not being tied to my work phone, which i hardly ever keep on me and leave in my desk drawer, is also pretty awesome.
6:30 - wake up
7:00 - check email (rarely ever find anything there)
7:15 - go to the gym or on a run
8:30 - shower, change, get ready for work
Around 9:15 - get to the office/my computer (WFH)
9:15 - drink coffee, check email again, peruse the internet, look at interesting legal developments (court opinions, cert petitions, etc.)
10:30 - drink coffee, review outlook calendar for upcoming deadlines
10:45 - drink coffee, review pleadings/discovery/case dockets, do legal research, write (almost always working on at least one motion to dismiss or some appeal), chat with colleagues about issues in our cases or life in general
5:35 - check out from work, or if i'm deep in a motion, drink coffee and continue working until i'm not feeling it anymore
Court appearances and department meetings occasionally fall somewhere therein, but those don't happen more than once a week I'd say, and some weeks i'm entirely unmolested to work at my leisure. Almost all of my actual work consists of doing legal research and writing motions.
Like the gov attorney poster above, i love my job, and while it hurts to think about the pay cut, this is something that I've always wanted to do and my quality of life has skyrocketed since working in private practice. Not being tied to my work phone, which i hardly ever keep on me and leave in my desk drawer, is also pretty awesome.
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Re: Lawyers: What's Your Typical Day?
congrats, what you just described sounds wonderful (including the coffee)Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:08 pmFed government attorney, who left a biglaw a few years ago, after billing 2800 back-to-back years. Here's my typical day:
6:30 - wake up
7:00 - check email (rarely ever find anything there)
7:15 - go to the gym or on a run
8:30 - shower, change, get ready for work
Around 9:15 - get to the office/my computer (WFH)
9:15 - drink coffee, check email again, peruse the internet, look at interesting legal developments (court opinions, cert petitions, etc.)
10:30 - drink coffee, review outlook calendar for upcoming deadlines
10:45 - drink coffee, review pleadings/discovery/case dockets, do legal research, write (almost always working on at least one motion to dismiss or some appeal), chat with colleagues about issues in our cases or life in general
5:35 - check out from work, or if i'm deep in a motion, drink coffee and continue working until i'm not feeling it anymore
Court appearances and department meetings occasionally fall somewhere therein, but those don't happen more than once a week I'd say, and some weeks i'm entirely unmolested to work at my leisure. Almost all of my actual work consists of doing legal research and writing motions.
Like the gov attorney poster above, i love my job, and while it hurts to think about the pay cut, this is something that I've always wanted to do and my quality of life has skyrocketed since working in private practice. Not being tied to my work phone, which i hardly ever keep on me and leave in my desk drawer, is also pretty awesome.

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Re: Lawyers: What's Your Typical Day?
This sounds like the dream. What area of fed gov is this?phan wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:15 pmcongrats, what you just described sounds wonderful (including the coffee)Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:08 pmFed government attorney, who left a biglaw a few years ago, after billing 2800 back-to-back years. Here's my typical day:
6:30 - wake up
7:00 - check email (rarely ever find anything there)
7:15 - go to the gym or on a run
8:30 - shower, change, get ready for work
Around 9:15 - get to the office/my computer (WFH)
9:15 - drink coffee, check email again, peruse the internet, look at interesting legal developments (court opinions, cert petitions, etc.)
10:30 - drink coffee, review outlook calendar for upcoming deadlines
10:45 - drink coffee, review pleadings/discovery/case dockets, do legal research, write (almost always working on at least one motion to dismiss or some appeal), chat with colleagues about issues in our cases or life in general
5:35 - check out from work, or if i'm deep in a motion, drink coffee and continue working until i'm not feeling it anymore
Court appearances and department meetings occasionally fall somewhere therein, but those don't happen more than once a week I'd say, and some weeks i'm entirely unmolested to work at my leisure. Almost all of my actual work consists of doing legal research and writing motions.
Like the gov attorney poster above, i love my job, and while it hurts to think about the pay cut, this is something that I've always wanted to do and my quality of life has skyrocketed since working in private practice. Not being tied to my work phone, which i hardly ever keep on me and leave in my desk drawer, is also pretty awesome.![]()
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Re: Lawyers: What's Your Typical Day?
Fed gov poster above. AUSA in the civil division at an office in one of the larger districts. There are always periods when things get more intense, in terms of workload and hours, usually following some new statute/regulation/executive policy, but after the initial wave of APA/habeas/etc. cases, I get back to my "typical" day.
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Re: Lawyers: What's Your Typical Day?
Your current life (and coffee) sounds great! Would you mind to tell how your day looks like when you bill 2800 hours a year? That's crazy.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:25 pmFed gov poster above. AUSA in the civil division at an office in one of the larger districts. There are always periods when things get more intense, in terms of workload and hours, usually following some new statute/regulation/executive policy, but after the initial wave of APA/habeas/etc. cases, I get back to my "typical" day.

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Re: Lawyers: What's Your Typical Day?
Would love to hear from some corporate associates in big law on your typical day (perhaps pre and post pandemic since I understand that Corp. has been busy af)
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Re: Lawyers: What's Your Typical Day?
Almost third-year at a regional firm in Dallas/Houston; litigation associate; market for first two years, then substantial compression, underwhelming (compared to "real" big law) bonuses. . Anonymous because I have discussed where I work and could pretty easily be identified.
5:30-7:50: wake up, work out (three-four days a week), coffee, tv, read WSJ, ignore emails unless urgent, get ready.
7:50-8:30: commute and get settled into office.
8:30-11:30: emails, drafting, meetings, etc.
11:30-12:00: take call with therapist in car, discuss how much I hate this job and work on dealing with my clinical anxiety and depression, relate how partner I work with constantly makes veiled complaints about how her teenage son might be gay (I.e. too musical, not into sports, etc), despite knowing that I’m gay.
12:00-1:20: emails, drafting, meetings, etc.
1:20-1:50: lunch (either pick it up at food court next door, in which case I usually go and eat with coworkers or bring healthier lunch from home and eat alone at my desk while I research other careers).
1:50-4:30: emails, drafting, meetings, etc.
4:30-4:45: coffee break, talk to whoever is around, try to talk with team members so I can maybe bill it.
4:45-6:15/30: emails, drafting, enter time, usually no meetings, so these are productive hours.
6:15/30-8:15/30: commute, dinner, hang out with roommate/sister, tv, occasional second work out, a few times a months try to get dinner or drinks with friends or family; during the summer I make a point of attending at lest two summer associate event a month.
8:30-9:45/10:15: draft, respond to emails, work on non-billable work I was horrendously assigned.
10:15-11:00: get ready for bed, internet, tv, meditation.
I definitely don’t have the worst hours, and early this year the job was pretty brutal (thank god it has slowed down), but I REALLY hate it. If I weren’t on track to receive a good bonus because of my very busy first half of the year, I would have probably already left. We need to bill 1,900 hours a year, my first year I billed 1,700 and no one made a stink about it, this year I’m on track to bill 2,100+ even if the rest of the year is just 140-150 a month (I’m on a trial team in November, so very unlikely). I deal with clinical depression and horrible anxiety, which makes this job basically unbearable. I’m decently close with some of my co-workers, but truth-be-told there is no one that I will really miss. Currently trying to decide whether I want to retool myself as a corporate or (much more difficult bc of my location, but ultimately preferable) regulatory associate; however, I know these both would involve longer hours, and I just don’t think a law firm is the right fit, so I’m really hesitant. The in-house options for litigators, especially in Texas and with only two years, are basically non-existent. Seriously considering leaving the law all together and pursuing a career in compliance or HR (THANK GOD I chose the lower ranked school with a full ride over Columbia or NYU).
I should also add that I’m not the most consistent worker (I take breaks in my long blocks of work to look at my phone and I usually listen to music or podcasts whenever I can). I am also terrified of having my billing questioned, so I probably under-bill. About once a week I am up until about 12:30/1 working late. Also I typically try and bill 4-6 hours every weekend to alleviate some work week stress. Because I am about 80% sure I am in my last few months of earning a big law salary, I am basically on a spending freeze, which has actually helped me contextualize the fact that I have very little life outside of work and exercise. And the call with the therapist is a weekly appointment, but I would say more reflects the reality that most days some personal s*** comes up whether it be mental health, dealing with the realities of being a new homeowner, medical stuff, recruiting/career search stuff, etc.
5:30-7:50: wake up, work out (three-four days a week), coffee, tv, read WSJ, ignore emails unless urgent, get ready.
7:50-8:30: commute and get settled into office.
8:30-11:30: emails, drafting, meetings, etc.
11:30-12:00: take call with therapist in car, discuss how much I hate this job and work on dealing with my clinical anxiety and depression, relate how partner I work with constantly makes veiled complaints about how her teenage son might be gay (I.e. too musical, not into sports, etc), despite knowing that I’m gay.
12:00-1:20: emails, drafting, meetings, etc.
1:20-1:50: lunch (either pick it up at food court next door, in which case I usually go and eat with coworkers or bring healthier lunch from home and eat alone at my desk while I research other careers).
1:50-4:30: emails, drafting, meetings, etc.
4:30-4:45: coffee break, talk to whoever is around, try to talk with team members so I can maybe bill it.
4:45-6:15/30: emails, drafting, enter time, usually no meetings, so these are productive hours.
6:15/30-8:15/30: commute, dinner, hang out with roommate/sister, tv, occasional second work out, a few times a months try to get dinner or drinks with friends or family; during the summer I make a point of attending at lest two summer associate event a month.
8:30-9:45/10:15: draft, respond to emails, work on non-billable work I was horrendously assigned.
10:15-11:00: get ready for bed, internet, tv, meditation.
I definitely don’t have the worst hours, and early this year the job was pretty brutal (thank god it has slowed down), but I REALLY hate it. If I weren’t on track to receive a good bonus because of my very busy first half of the year, I would have probably already left. We need to bill 1,900 hours a year, my first year I billed 1,700 and no one made a stink about it, this year I’m on track to bill 2,100+ even if the rest of the year is just 140-150 a month (I’m on a trial team in November, so very unlikely). I deal with clinical depression and horrible anxiety, which makes this job basically unbearable. I’m decently close with some of my co-workers, but truth-be-told there is no one that I will really miss. Currently trying to decide whether I want to retool myself as a corporate or (much more difficult bc of my location, but ultimately preferable) regulatory associate; however, I know these both would involve longer hours, and I just don’t think a law firm is the right fit, so I’m really hesitant. The in-house options for litigators, especially in Texas and with only two years, are basically non-existent. Seriously considering leaving the law all together and pursuing a career in compliance or HR (THANK GOD I chose the lower ranked school with a full ride over Columbia or NYU).
I should also add that I’m not the most consistent worker (I take breaks in my long blocks of work to look at my phone and I usually listen to music or podcasts whenever I can). I am also terrified of having my billing questioned, so I probably under-bill. About once a week I am up until about 12:30/1 working late. Also I typically try and bill 4-6 hours every weekend to alleviate some work week stress. Because I am about 80% sure I am in my last few months of earning a big law salary, I am basically on a spending freeze, which has actually helped me contextualize the fact that I have very little life outside of work and exercise. And the call with the therapist is a weekly appointment, but I would say more reflects the reality that most days some personal s*** comes up whether it be mental health, dealing with the realities of being a new homeowner, medical stuff, recruiting/career search stuff, etc.
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Re: Lawyers: What's Your Typical Day?
Started my own firm, plaintiffs employment/civil rights.
8 am wake up. Walk dog, etc.
8:30 a.m. start reviewing to do list. Take a look at intakes from yesterday. Start sending out texts to schedule consultations.
9:30 a.m. usually have a consultation that lasts 20 minutes by phone. I have two to three of these sprinkled in per day at random. Usually takes up an hour to an hour and a half of my day.
11:30 a.m. phone call with opposing counsel on some case. Emails on cases. Moving things along.
12:30 p.m. lunch.
1:15 p.m. usually do some stuff with my website/SEO. My SEO has been pretty good so this effort went from 1-2 hours per day to less than 1.
2:00-4:30 p.m. usually try to draft some demand letters/other court documents. Doesn’t always happen if Im doing other stuff.
4:30 -5:45 - do whatever to push my firm forward whether it’s legal work or marketing work.
Chill the rest of the night/day dream about plans for the future with my firm. Sometimes I’ll jot down ideas for marketing and upcoming trials.
12:00 a.m. - bed.
Typically work 8-10 hours a day. Been at this around 6 months. I don’t work weekends. I have someone helping me part time. Not much money in yet but I have a ton in my portfolio that will all settle.
It’s a decent life. The stress is there from having to make all the e decisions. But it’s gotten better and better over time.
8 am wake up. Walk dog, etc.
8:30 a.m. start reviewing to do list. Take a look at intakes from yesterday. Start sending out texts to schedule consultations.
9:30 a.m. usually have a consultation that lasts 20 minutes by phone. I have two to three of these sprinkled in per day at random. Usually takes up an hour to an hour and a half of my day.
11:30 a.m. phone call with opposing counsel on some case. Emails on cases. Moving things along.
12:30 p.m. lunch.
1:15 p.m. usually do some stuff with my website/SEO. My SEO has been pretty good so this effort went from 1-2 hours per day to less than 1.
2:00-4:30 p.m. usually try to draft some demand letters/other court documents. Doesn’t always happen if Im doing other stuff.
4:30 -5:45 - do whatever to push my firm forward whether it’s legal work or marketing work.
Chill the rest of the night/day dream about plans for the future with my firm. Sometimes I’ll jot down ideas for marketing and upcoming trials.
12:00 a.m. - bed.
Typically work 8-10 hours a day. Been at this around 6 months. I don’t work weekends. I have someone helping me part time. Not much money in yet but I have a ton in my portfolio that will all settle.
It’s a decent life. The stress is there from having to make all the e decisions. But it’s gotten better and better over time.
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Re: Lawyers: What's Your Typical Day?
this is my dream!!Lacepiece23 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:24 amStarted my own firm, plaintiffs employment/civil rights.
8 am wake up. Walk dog, etc.
8:30 a.m. start reviewing to do list. Take a look at intakes from yesterday. Start sending out texts to schedule consultations.
9:30 a.m. usually have a consultation that lasts 20 minutes by phone. I have two to three of these sprinkled in per day at random. Usually takes up an hour to an hour and a half of my day.
11:30 a.m. phone call with opposing counsel on some case. Emails on cases. Moving things along.
12:30 p.m. lunch.
1:15 p.m. usually do some stuff with my website/SEO. My SEO has been pretty good so this effort went from 1-2 hours per day to less than 1.
2:00-4:30 p.m. usually try to draft some demand letters/other court documents. Doesn’t always happen if Im doing other stuff.
4:30 -5:45 - do whatever to push my firm forward whether it’s legal work or marketing work.
Chill the rest of the night/day dream about plans for the future with my firm. Sometimes I’ll jot down ideas for marketing and upcoming trials.
12:00 a.m. - bed.
Typically work 8-10 hours a day. Been at this around 6 months. I don’t work weekends. I have someone helping me part time. Not much money in yet but I have a ton in my portfolio that will all settle.
It’s a decent life. The stress is there from having to make all the e decisions. But it’s gotten better and better over time.
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