1L Summer Job Search C/O 2018 Forum

[03282016]

[PeanutsNJam]

lol

This is anon abuse. Might not be the same person though.

Like, if it's your job to do something, and your job requires you to make and answer phone calls regularly, is it that far of a stretch to say that you should probably not miss every call?

[Anonymous User]

Anybody heard of any offers from BB Houston?

I know they've been going out for at least a week.

I know of 4 offers total for the Houston office, one was from the BB UT OCI, two were from interviews in the office over break, and I'm unsure about the 4th

[thisiswater]

lol

This is anon abuse. Might not be the same person though.

Like, if it's your job to do something, and your job requires you to make and answer phone calls regularly, is it that far of a stretch to say that you should probably not miss every call?

I mean people miss phone calls, that's not fair. In my actual job I've been playing phone tag with someone for a week and a half now. I don't think either of us are being unprofessional we're just having trouble connecting. But i'm assuming you have left a message so they know they missed you and they could be more proactive with calling you back.

[PeanutsNJam]

In a vacuum I wouldn't call it unprofessional, I was just responding to Anon's criticism of me.

[Anonymous User]

Pretty sure you crossed the line of socially/professionally acceptable behavior. If they log your calls and find out you called at least 4 times and emailed, that can't look good. Might be desperate even (and in an industry where you can get knocked in hiring for any trivial thing depending on the interviewer you get, it's important to walk the line, so to speak).

Just call once, leave a voicemail, and wait at least a week. I've been scheduling a meeting with a firm for just about a month now. Gave them my schedule, and they update me with on my progress every 6-8 days. Friday to Tuesday is nothing, especially for 1L hiring being so low on the totem pole according to TLS.

lol

Nice anon abuse btw.

Not entirely sure how that's anon abuse when I'm just providing a personal example to help you feel better about the fact that you're (speaking generally to most 1Ls) not a firm's #1 priority, but if you're going to flip out and be neurotic about it then more power to you man.

Anon abuse is using the anon feature to rip on someone. Like you're doing now.

Then I'm sorry. Didn't know that, and it's a stressful time for all.

@peanuts: Didn't mean to come off as harsh or to be rude in any way and in any post, and the lol was laughing because I legitimately thought what you said was funny not because I was laughing at you. Easy to get confused over the internet, I guess.

Good luck man.

[03282016]

[ellewoods817]

Anybody ever encounter a recruiter that is impossible to reach? I get a call in class for a callback on Friday. I call back right as I get out of class - voicemail. I call the following Monday morning - voicemail. I call that afternoon - voicemail. I call just now - voicemail. I'm trying to avoid leaving a 5 min long voicemail where I delineate my entire schedule and availability. Just gonna email her.

Lol, just call, leave your name and number, then state the general days that you're available. I've done this with 2 recruiters that I called back and both emailed me the next day with their morning/afternoon availability for the days I mentioned. It's a bit anecdotal, but it generally works without irritating anyone, and you should get a response within the week!

[Anonymous User]

Ding from Skadden Palo Alto. Any other Bay Area movement with firms?

[Anonymous User]

No response by a partner to a thank you email after cb... no offer? or overthinking this?

[Anonymous User]

No response by a partner to a thank you email after cb... no offer? or overthinking this?

You're probably overthinking it- they are busy.

[Anonymous User]

Ding from Perkins Coie Chicago, K&L Gates Seattle, Stoel Rives Seattle
Interview invite from Skadden Chicago
Just finished interview with K&E Chicago Pro Bono Fellowship

[Anonymous User]

No response by a partner to a thank you email after cb... no offer? or overthinking this?

You're probably overthinking it- they are busy.

Thank you kind soul

[BigZuck]

no thank yous ever

Friendly reminder BUMP

[pancakes3]

Just a condescending note that wrt your poll, you aren't accepting clerkships, you're accepting judicial internships.

[BigZuck]

Just a condescending note that wrt your poll, you aren't accepting clerkships, you're accepting judicial internships.

Maybe this thread is just more ambitious than previous TLS classes

[Anonymous User]

no thank yous ever

Friendly reminder BUMP

Does this stem from the line of thinking that there is just too much chance of a mistake/typo or that it's an outdated practice? Curious because I've heard so many conflicting thoughts on thank yous

[BigZuck]

no thank yous ever

Friendly reminder BUMP

Does this stem from the line of thinking that there is just too much chance of a mistake/typo or that it's an outdated practice? Curious because I've heard so many conflicting thoughts on thank yous

Yeah basically there just doesn't seem to really be any upside. I've seen practicing attorneys on here openly complain about getting them (or at best, they don't care). No upside with the possible downside of maybe misspelling a name or sending it to the wrong person or whatever is enough for me to say don't do it.

Also, this is super anecdotal but I interviewed in some of the more genteel markets and it seemed to not make any difference with anyone I know, but obviously that doesn't really mean anything.

Honestly, I could maybe see doing it if you made some sort of real connection with someone or if it's like a really old judge who might want that personal touch or something. I just assume that most TLSers would send thank yous in a hamfisted/gunnery/awkward way so that's why I say don't bother.

If you can pull it off appropriately then knock yourself out I guess.

eta: YOLO

[Anonymous User]

Ding from Skadden Palo Alto. Any other Bay Area movement with firms?

Did you interview? Sorry about the ding.

[Anonymous User]

Ding from Skadden Palo Alto. Any other Bay Area movement with firms?

Did you interview? Sorry about the ding.

No interview so I wasn't too attached at least

[Hand]

Just a condescending note that wrt your poll, you aren't accepting clerkships, you're accepting judicial internships.

Maybe this thread is just more ambitious than previous TLS classes

I just copied hikko's post don't look at me

[Hand]

no thank yous ever

Friendly reminder BUMP

Does this stem from the line of thinking that there is just too much chance of a mistake/typo or that it's an outdated practice? Curious because I've heard so many conflicting thoughts on thank yous

Yeah basically there just doesn't seem to really be any upside. I've seen practicing attorneys on here openly complain about getting them (or at best, they don't care). No upside with the possible downside of maybe misspelling a name or sending it to the wrong person or whatever is enough for me to say don't do it.

Also, this is super anecdotal but I interviewed in some of the more genteel markets and it seemed to not make any difference with anyone I know, but obviously that doesn't really mean anything.

Honestly, I could maybe see doing it if you made some sort of real connection with someone or if it's like a really old judge who might want that personal touch or something. I just assume that most TLSers would send thank yous in a hamfisted/gunnery/awkward way so that's why I say don't bother.

If you can pull it off appropriately then knock yourself out I guess.

eta: YOLO

I dunno man, I just send a quick two liner after an interview, the risk of someone finding that annoying seems lower than the risk of someone thinking I don't know proper etiquette for this shit, but I doubt most people will care either way

[Hikikomorist]

Just a condescending note that wrt your poll, you aren't accepting clerkships, you're accepting judicial internships.

Maybe this thread is just more ambitious than previous TLS classes

I just copied hikko's post don't look at me

Right, I forgot that this is where you work for no pay, as opposed to for almost no pay.

[RSN]

no thank yous ever

Friendly reminder BUMP

Does this stem from the line of thinking that there is just too much chance of a mistake/typo or that it's an outdated practice? Curious because I've heard so many conflicting thoughts on thank yous

Yeah basically there just doesn't seem to really be any upside. I've seen practicing attorneys on here openly complain about getting them (or at best, they don't care). No upside with the possible downside of maybe misspelling a name or sending it to the wrong person or whatever is enough for me to say don't do it.

Also, this is super anecdotal but I interviewed in some of the more genteel markets and it seemed to not make any difference with anyone I know, but obviously that doesn't really mean anything.

Honestly, I could maybe see doing it if you made some sort of real connection with someone or if it's like a really old judge who might want that personal touch or something. I just assume that most TLSers would send thank yous in a hamfisted/gunnery/awkward way so that's why I say don't bother.

If you can pull it off appropriately then knock yourself out I guess.

eta: YOLO

I dunno man, I just send a quick two liner after an interview, the risk of someone finding that annoying seems lower than the risk of someone thinking I don't know proper etiquette for this shit, but I doubt most people will care either way

I have a sense that post-interview thank yous are more useful/expected in public sector than private, but might be more a function of the number and interviews and structure of the process.

By the way, to whomever was asking about DOJ ENRD, the interview I knew of became an offer, apparently last week.

[WorldsCollide]

Are DC judges no longer looking for interns? I sent out 80+ apps last week (because I'm a procrastinator.) I don't expect to get any calls because I heard DC is competitive. Does anyone here actually know?