UChicago Law OCI 2019 Forum

[Anonymous User]

Anyone else think NYC CBs are much harder to get than upperclassmen and career services suggested? I know people with 0 Cbs or 1 CB... "They really want some Chicago people" has been overstated. They can fill their whole classes with great candidates without us tbh

I was worried it was my numbers. Where are you having success?

I'm doing OK but surprised that I have a higher conversion rate with non-NY than I do with NY. Strong NYC ties as well. Either I'm an idiot in the interviewing room [possible, but no more so than most T14 students] or something is up.

At this rate, 20% of our class will strike out of OCI.

[QContinuum]

Anyone else think NYC CBs are much harder to get than upperclassmen and career services suggested? I know people with 0 Cbs or 1 CB... "They really want some Chicago people" has been overstated. They can fill their whole classes with great candidates without us tbh

I was worried it was my numbers. Where are you having success?

I'm doing OK but surprised that I have a higher conversion rate with non-NY than I do with NY. Strong NYC ties as well. Either I'm an idiot in the interviewing room [possible, but no more so than most T14 students] or something is up.

At this rate, 20% of our class will strike out of OCI.

Remember, it only takes one.

It's always been the case - at any of the T13 - that a significant fraction of folks end up with only a single offer, and even more end up with only two offers. It doesn't feel great to have only a single offer - but those folks have succeeded. They haven't struck out.

Then, even those who actually strike out of OCI typically secure an offer not long after through mass-mailing. They don't typically advertise this scrambling to classmates, so from the outside it looks as if they didn't strike out.

So, every year the rising 2Ls go into OCI with the false impression that all you do is show up, and you'll be deluged with a dozen or more callbacks and at least a half dozen offers. It simply isn't true. Only a very few rockstars end up with that number of callbacks and offers. But even though the process is surprisingly rocky, it generally does work out in the end. The T13's BigLaw placement numbers are real.

[Anonymous User]

Any DC movement beyond Latham and White+Case? Covington must be out by now right?

When did Latham DC go out? I got a White & Case callback this evening by email but haven't heard from Latham either way. Ditto Covington, or any D.C. firm other than Wilkie.

[Anonymous User]

Any DC movement beyond Latham and White+Case? Covington must be out by now right?

When did Latham DC go out? I got a White & Case callback this evening by email but haven't heard from Latham either way. Ditto Covington, or any D.C. firm other than Wilkie.

Latham (DC) went out a while ago (see above). Latham (Chicago) has sent out some dings. Sullivan & Cromwell (NY) acceptances are all out.

[Anonymous User]

This thread suggests at least one went out, but there doesn't seem to be much movement in general so some additional corroboration is always appreciated. I personally still haven't heard from Latham D.C., though they could just be delaying rejections.

[Anonymous User]

How likely is it that firms from last week still haven't made callbacks yet?

[Anonymous User]

How likely is it that firms from last week still haven't made callbacks yet?

Based on my convos with people (several) and the number of firms that have gotten back to me either pro or con (few), it seems pretty likely, at least in D.C. NYC, Chicago, and LA seem to have made more decisions.

[Anonymous User]

How likely is it that firms from last week still haven't made callbacks yet?

Probably depends on the firm, the market, and what time in the week they interviewed. Speaking of which has Sidley Chicago still not moved?

[Anonymous User]

How likely is it that firms from last week still haven't made callbacks yet?

Based on my convos with people (several) and the number of firms that have gotten back to me either pro or con (few), it seems pretty likely, at least in D.C. NYC, Chicago, and LA seem to have made more decisions.

[Anonymous User]

How likely is it that firms from last week still haven't made callbacks yet?

Based on my convos with people (several) and the number of firms that have gotten back to me either pro or con (few), it seems pretty likely, at least in D.C. NYC, Chicago, and LA seem to have made more decisions.

I have only heard yes or no from about 30% of my NY screeners, and I have mainly been targeting NY.

Unsure how normal this is... If it means I’m on a lot of waitlists or if the firms just take more than 2-3 days to decide.

[Anonymous User]

How likely is it that firms from last week still haven't made callbacks yet?

Based on my convos with people (several) and the number of firms that have gotten back to me either pro or con (few), it seems pretty likely, at least in D.C. NYC, Chicago, and LA seem to have made more decisions.

I have only heard yes or no from about 30% of my NY screeners, and I have mainly been targeting NY.

Unsure how normal this is... If it means I’m on a lot of waitlists or if the firms just take more than 2-3 days to decide.

From very anecdotal observation, DC seems pretty normal so far. Top students are getting callbacks like you'd expect, though I haven't heard anything on the non-Latham heavy hitters that have interviewed (Covington, Williams & Connolly). Chicago seems to be moving slowly - multiple people with very good grades have no callbacks or dings. Has Sidley still not unleashed a deluge of callbacks? Some LA firms have been moving quickly. Many people have many callbacks at this point and many had lots of offers from pre-OCI. I know MTO is done.

[Anonymous User]

Have talked to mainly dc people and have heard the following CBs:

Latham, cleary, Sidley, white and case, cov, Pillsbury. One or two other smaller firms that I don’t recall.

As for NYC, pre oci seemed pretty big this year, but we weren’t really prepped that much for it.

But waiting is the name of the game. You’re not out until you’re out. Would not be surprised if there are more waves of cbs from these firms and others who already gave out cbs.

[Anonymous User]

I have only heard yes or no from about 30% of my NY screeners, and I have mainly been targeting NY.

Unsure how normal this is... If it means I’m on a lot of waitlists or if the firms just take more than 2-3 days to decide.

I interviewed with ~20 firms last week, all NY.
10% callback
30% rejected
40% no response, but I know people who received callbacks
20% no response, no other information

[Anonymous User]

Have talked to mainly dc people and have heard the following CBs:

Latham, cleary, Sidley, white and case, cov, Pillsbury. One or two other smaller firms that I don’t recall.

As for NYC, pre oci seemed pretty big this year, but we weren’t really prepped that much for it.

But waiting is the name of the game. You’re not out until you’re out. Would not be surprised if there are more waves of cbs from these firms and others who already gave out cbs.

Has anyone heard from Williams & Connolly?

From other interviews in DC so far I'm 50-50 - half callbacks, half radio silence. All from firms on your list. No rejections.

[Anonymous User]

Have talked to mainly dc people and have heard the following CBs:

Latham, cleary, Sidley, white and case, cov, Pillsbury. One or two other smaller firms that I don’t recall.

As for NYC, pre oci seemed pretty big this year, but we weren’t really prepped that much for it.

But waiting is the name of the game. You’re not out until you’re out. Would not be surprised if there are more waves of cbs from these firms and others who already gave out cbs.

Has anyone heard from Williams & Connolly?

From other interviews in DC so far I'm 50-50 - half callbacks, half radio silence. All from firms on your list. No rejections.

Haven't heard from W&C yet. From firms on the above list have only heard from White & Case (callback)--haven't heard from any of the others either way.

[Anonymous User]

People who have been talking to friends: what is a “good” or “decent” number of callbacks to have at this point?

[Anonymous User]

Covington ding via email.

[Anonymous User]

Did your Covington ding have I particularly sorry because I enjoyed our interview, yada yada yada in it? Not sure if it's a meaningful indicator that I interviewed well (but regardless a ding is a ding).

[Anonymous User]

Did your Covington ding have I particularly sorry because I enjoyed our interview, yada yada yada in it? Not sure if it's a meaningful indicator that I interviewed well (but regardless a ding is a ding).

Sure did. I'm assuming it's a form email.

[Anonymous User]

O'Melveny DC has given out callbacks

[Anonymous User]

If you have been offered a Fried Frank callback, have you heard back and been able to schedule it?

[Anonymous User]

If you have been offered a Fried Frank callback, have you heard back and been able to schedule it?

Similarly, has anyone gotten travel info for White & Case?

[Anonymous User]

If you have been offered a Fried Frank callback, have you heard back and been able to schedule it?

Similarly, has anyone gotten travel info for White & Case?

Check your spam. At least for me (D.C.) the initial email went to my spam folder.

[Anonymous User]

Dinner - GDC DC

[Anonymous User]

People who have been talking to friends: what is a “good” or “decent” number of callbacks to have at this point?

Honestly, if you have any I'd consider yourself lucky. It feels like a killing field out there.