Did I just blow my chances with a specific law firm for 3L mass mailing by going to office hours? Forum

[A. Nony Mouse]

I probably wouldn't follow up, and I don't know that the OP didn't pull off the lie. I just think his assessment of how he should respond to questions is really really poor and it's inevitably going to bite him in the ass. Like, I get that saying you don't yet have a job, especially if you're particularly anxious about it, doesn't feel great. But the insecurity and inaccurate belief that everyone else would feel as bad about him not yet having a job as he appears to feel about himself is the problem. He's clearly convinced something is terribly wrong with himself for not getting a job yet, because how could admitting that fact not lead someone to think less of him? He sees lying as better than admitting that failure. If he can't get over that kind of anxiety about not being perfect he is going to be fucking miserable and it's going to fuck his life because he'll continue to try to hide any perceived inadequacies at all costs.

[fats provolone]

OP have you considered being a lawyer

[20160810]

Serious question: wouldn't "still looking" have maybe been helpful in this situation? He's a senior partner who likes you. There might have been a shot at getting something, and even if not, he surely knows people who could've gotten you something.

Yeah no kidding. Op is the kind of guy who tells girls on tinder that he's married so they don't assume he's unloveable

[CicerBRo]

This seems really neurotic. The dude isn't going to care at all. He probably barely remembers you guys even met and talked at this point.

[Anonymous User]

???

[fats provolone]

But now I'm concerned about how to shore up what I said with "nothing but the truth" next year.

Do you not understand that this is why it was so stupid to say it

[Anonymous User]

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[A. Nony Mouse]

But the point is that it wouldn't have ended your chances.

[fats provolone]

the only thing that may have ruined your chances is telling a very material and easily verifiable lie

[Anonymous User]

???

[fats provolone]

um, verifiable in that you have to come up with an elaborate second lie to explain it because otherwise it would be on your resume?

but yea, I'm sure this will be resolved favorably when you produce your limited power of attorney. Jesus Christ

[pancakes3]

Reading the OP's posts is exhausting.

[Anonymous User]

???

[pleadthafif]

I would honestly be more worried about someone in your class seeing this than formulating some second shitty lie about taking care of your father.

Even with anon use you've given us a lot of information and someone could probably fuck you if they wanted.

[LeDique]

the only thing that may have ruined your chances is telling a very material and easily verifiable lie

What part will be verifiable? My sudden change of plans because of "April..."? Because FirmX won't be on my resume, so the partner would call some unreachable HR person to ask whether I did in fact back out? It's not a firm he'd deal with in his NYC practice. He'd only do that if he 1) remembers and 2) doubts my "April" explanation.
It won't be a generic "member of the family blah blah, how tragic." If he begins to doubt it, or if I suspect he will, I already have limited PoA over certain respects of my family so...records...proof...you know the rest.

well if u already have it then he'll kno w the april part is a lie! come on man get it together

[LeDique]

I would honestly be more worried about someone in your class seeing this than formulating some second shitty lie about taking care of your father.

Even with anon use you've given us a lot of information and someone could probably fuck you if they wanted.

i wouldn't worry about this op. any reasonable attorney who has a lie brought to their attention by someone else will give you credit for telling a good story. that's like the #1 skill of lawyering. i'd hire you on the spot if one of your classmates ratted you out.

[pancakes3]

OP:

[20160810]

Yeah no kidding. Op is the kind of guy who tells girls on tinder that he's married so they don't assume he's unloveable

Another original analogy. I've been in this guy's class for 2 months now. If I thought discussing my situation with him would lead to a job, wouldn't I have done it much earlier?
What's he gonna say? "Well we filled our class weeks ago, and we usually only take median or better from this school. Send me your resume & transcript... yeah no."

I don't regret blowing the slim opportunity that it could've led to a job for next summer. I'm much more concerned about preserving my chances next year, and I thought saying "nah, no other firms want me...and it's late October" would've ended my chances right there.

But now I'm concerned about how to shore up what I said with "nothing but the truth" next year.

tell him you're into butt stuff next time at least it's true

[apa80]

But now I'm concerned about how to shore up what I said with "nothing but the truth" next year.

Do you not understand that this is why it was so stupid to say it

Yes but it was better than ending my chances before I see how this class & other stuff turn out, even if it requires some additional truth-telling.

Am I reading this wrong, or is OP using "additional truth-telling" as a euphemism for "additional lying."

Even if I'm reading that wrong, here's the problem: the fact that the partner might plausibly believe the sick-dad story should not factor into whether it's a good decision. The fact that he might have believed you about Firm X has nothing to do with whether that was a good decision. You need to stop thinking that way. Repeatedly lying to a partner to get a job is just an inherently stupid thing to do, even if you get away with it and even if you don't have moral qualms about it. It's just stupid.

[Anonymous User]

I would honestly be more worried about someone in your class seeing this than formulating some second shitty lie about taking care of your father.
Even with anon use you've given us a lot of information and someone could probably fuck you if they wanted.

As a matter of fact, I see someone fitting all 3 of those descriptions sipping coffee a few feet away from me, I'm FB chatting with another at the moment, and meeting with a third tomorrow. I guess all of you know I'm still on the market, but none of my classmates know that.

What are the chances that there'd be 4 people meeting all 3 descriptors, within 10 feet or 2 days of each other?

even if you get away with it and even if you don't have moral qualms about it. It's just stupid.

I'm not disagreeing with that. I'll take "it's just stupid" under advisement and factor that into whether/what to say. But how can I donate to United Way/Salvation Army/etc to repent without first doing what I gotta do to get hired?

[fats provolone]

this guy would definitely blend into the crowd at H

[justabitunusual]

Am I reading this wrong, or is OP using "additional truth-telling" as a euphemism for "additional lying."

Haha, that's how i read it too!

This whole thread is the most ridiculous thing I've seen all day, and it's Halloween.

[dean414]

Am I reading this wrong, or is OP using "additional truth-telling" as a euphemism for "additional lying."

Haha, that's how i read it too!

This whole thread is the most ridiculous thing I've seen all day, and it's Halloween.

x2

I hope you get outed, OP. You deserve that much.

[justabitunusual]

I'll take "it's just stupid" under advisement and factor that into whether/what to say. But how can I donate to United Way/Salvation Army/etc to repent without first doing what I gotta do to get hired?

i think the point you're seriously missing here, and i don't think a thousand shitpoasters could ever get this through to you, but the ends don't justify the means here, bruh.

If it were me, and most ppl would prob disagree w this, bc it leans more twd the other extreme, I would either go back to the professor and eat humble pie, tell him "i was nervous and told him what my plans were, but that they had not actually been actualized, and i would just like to clarify that"....or go to another student dean and explain the situation in a hypothetical way or tell them flat out and ask their advice. Otherwise, I wouldn't bring it up again, and prob wouldn't apply to that partner's firm at all.

[pleadthafif]

I would honestly be more worried about someone in your class seeing this than formulating some second shitty lie about taking care of your father.
Even with anon use you've given us a lot of information and someone could probably fuck you if they wanted.

What have I told you? That I'm at H/C/N (3 of the largest 4 T14s). That I'm from the East Coast. Taking a class cotaught by a partner. Look up any of those 3 schools and you'd be surprised at how many Lecturers/Adjuncts are NYC lawyers.

As a matter of fact, I see someone fitting all 3 of those descriptions sipping coffee a few feet away from me, I'm FB chatting with another at the moment, and meeting with a third tomorrow. I guess all of you know I'm still on the market, but none of my classmates know that.

What are the chances that there'd be 4 people meeting all 3 descriptors, within 10 feet or 2 days of each other?

even if you get away with it and even if you don't have moral qualms about it. It's just stupid.

I'm not disagreeing with that. I'll take "it's just stupid" under advisement and factor that into whether/what to say. But how can I donate to United Way/Salvation Army/etc to repent without first doing what I gotta do to get hired?

I guess. We also know your class year, that you have an unusual name, a sick dad, your approximate class ranking, and I'm sure some other stuff that I don't care enough to back and read through.