1L Summer Job Search C/O 2017 Forum

[sesto elemento]

How important is it to attend interview workshops/networking events now?
Some interview workshops are being done by upperclassmen and some by firms.
I feel like studying is more crucial atm and I should worry about the above later?

[chuckbass]

How important is it to attend interview workshops/networking events now?
Some interview workshops are being done by upperclassmen and some by firms.
I feel like studying is more crucial atm and I should worry about the above later?

We have a couple that I'm skipping, and while obviously it's good to go to I think just focusing on grades right now is justified, personally at least.

[Manteca]

Question from a naïve 1L: does it matter if I work for say, a solo/small PI firm vs. doing a judicial clerkship this summer?

[Kratos]

How important is it to attend interview workshops/networking events now?
Some interview workshops are being done by upperclassmen and some by firms.
I feel like studying is more crucial atm and I should worry about the above later?

Grades>>>>>>>pretty much everything else

[JustHawkin]

Grades>>>>>>>pretty much everything else

Needed this. FOMO kicking in hard. Got to keep the blinders on and stay the course.

[KM2016]

Grades>>>>>>>pretty much everything else

Needed this. FOMO kicking in hard. Got to keep the blinders on and stay the course.

While FOMO is definitely a real thing, staying the course + doing well + having a biglaw job >>>>>>>>>>>> any fun you missed out on.

I struggled with FOMO during my 1L year, and while it sucked, I would much prefer having my great grades + biglaw summer associate position as opposed to fun memories + mediocre grades + no summer job lined up.

You can do it.

[jbagelboy]

Grades>>>>>>>pretty much everything else

Needed this. FOMO kicking in hard. Got to keep the blinders on and stay the course.

While FOMO is definitely a real thing, staying the course + doing well + having a biglaw job >>>>>>>>>>>> any fun you missed out on.

I struggled with FOMO during my 1L year, and while it sucked, I would much prefer having my great grades + biglaw summer associate position as opposed to fun memories + mediocre grades + no summer job lined up.

You can do it.

there will always be some sacrifices, but I'm pretty convinced you can have plenty of fun as a 1L and still wind up as a summer associate. Cutting netflix/video games/reddit/sports games/TLS in exchange for studying/gym can work and you can still go out 2-3 nights a week up until thanksgiving.

[chuckbass]

Yea I mean I feel like generally the first month or two you can do whatever the fuck you want, so that's nice

[hoos89]

If a firm has more than one office in a state should/can we apply to all of them or just one?

I'm of the "Give it your one best shot" camp but your mileage may vary.

Applying to both SF and LA would lead to the dreaded Double D more likely than not IMO but that concern should be balanced against "apply, apply, apply and don't stop applying everywhere" I guess

If you get to the point where you are a really good, sought after candidate you can probably apply to multiple offices but if you're a fungible schmo I think it's better to go the "I can't possibly ever imagine not living and working in this city until the day I die" approach.

I think the best balance is to apply to every office with a unique recruiter. One caveat to that: if you're targeting a highly insular market then you may only want to apply to the office in that market to avoid giving the impression that you don't actually want to be there (while also applying to different firms in other locales).

[Anonymous User]

FWIW, the Jerome N. Frank Legal Services Organization at Yale Law is a fantastic way to spend 1L summer if you don't land an SA. It pays around $14/hour, including OT and double OT, and Connecticut has a 1L practice allowance. You can literally file briefs in fed court with your name on them, argue the motions, handle the settlement/plea negotiations, etc. It's fantastic substantive experience and probably the next best thing to a SA or in-house position since it's paid and the experience is way more substantive than pretty much anything else, and it's especially useful if you're from a lower T1 or T2 (the Yale name on the resume is immensely helpful for OCI).

I worked there last year, so feel free to ask questions about the program and I'll PM you.

[chuckbass]

FWIW, the Jerome N. Frank Legal Services Organization at Yale Law is a fantastic way to spend 1L summer if you don't land an SA. It pays around $17/hour, including OT and double OT, and Connecticut has a 1L practice allowance. You can literally file briefs in fed court with your name on them, argue the motions, handle the settlement/plea negotiations, etc. It's fantastic substantive experience and probably the next best thing to a SA or in-house position since it's paid and way more substantive experience than pretty much anything anything, and it's especially useful if you're from a lower T1 or T2 (the Yale name on the resume is immensely helpful for OCI).

I worked there last year, so feel free to ask questions about the program and I'll PM you.

You're anon, so can you PM me? This sounds awesome.

[transferror]

1L jobs don't matter

[Kimikho]

FWIW, the Jerome N. Frank Legal Services Organization at Yale Law is a fantastic way to spend 1L summer if you don't land an SA. It pays around $17/hour, including OT and double OT, and Connecticut has a 1L practice allowance. You can literally file briefs in fed court with your name on them, argue the motions, handle the settlement/plea negotiations, etc. It's fantastic substantive experience and probably the next best thing to a SA or in-house position since it's paid and way more substantive experience than pretty much anything anything, and it's especially useful if you're from a lower T1 or T2 (the Yale name on the resume is immensely helpful for OCI).

I worked there last year, so feel free to ask questions about the program and I'll PM you.

You're anon, so can you PM me? This sounds awesome.

[Attax]

BZ I know you addressed this, but how important is particular city? Being at UT and from Texas I'm 1LSA gunning, but a large firm has a very small office in my local town that I have connections to. If I worked there, would it disadvantage me if I'm targeting elsewhere?

[chuckbass]

BZ I know you addressed this, but how important is particular city? Being at UT and from Texas I'm 1LSA gunning, but a large firm has a very small office in my local town that I have connections to. If I worked there, would it disadvantage me if I'm targeting elsewhere?

I've heard Texas markets are super tie sensitive. Obvi you have strong ties but I feel like if you want Dallas/Houston/Austin you should be in the specific city 1L summer.

[Manhattan]

1L jobs don't matter

Mostly true, but they can help in certain situations.

[transferror]

1L jobs don't matter

Mostly true, but they can help in certain situations. http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 5&start=44

1) you just linked to this same thread. Really?

2) Obviously a small handful of 1L summer jobs can make a difference down the road (mine did), but generally 1L jobs don't matter - that was my point. What's more, it's rare that you can know your 1L job will open doors down the road, unless you're the asshole that lands a V20 SA before grades are in, and then it doesn't matter anyway since you're probably at HYS and you'll be fine regardless. If you landed a 1L SA after grades came in, you're almost certainly either a student with outstanding grades or going through a diversity program (with presumably at least median grades). Either way you'll be fine. So back to my point - stop sweating it; doesn't matter.

[chuckbass]

I mean I'd still say that while the job doesn't matter, you should work where you're ultimately trying to land a job.

[hailcaesar34]

FWIW, the Jerome N. Frank Legal Services Organization at Yale Law is a fantastic way to spend 1L summer if you don't land an SA. It pays around $17/hour, including OT and double OT, and Connecticut has a 1L practice allowance. You can literally file briefs in fed court with your name on them, argue the motions, handle the settlement/plea negotiations, etc. It's fantastic substantive experience and probably the next best thing to a SA or in-house position since it's paid and way more substantive experience than pretty much anything anything, and it's especially useful if you're from a lower T1 or T2 (the Yale name on the resume is immensely helpful for OCI).

I worked there last year, so feel free to ask questions about the program and I'll PM you.

You're anon, so can you PM me? This sounds awesome.

[Kratos]

FWIW, the Jerome N. Frank Legal Services Organization at Yale Law is a fantastic way to spend 1L summer if you don't land an SA. It pays around $17/hour, including OT and double OT, and Connecticut has a 1L practice allowance. You can literally file briefs in fed court with your name on them, argue the motions, handle the settlement/plea negotiations, etc. It's fantastic substantive experience and probably the next best thing to a SA or in-house position since it's paid and way more substantive experience than pretty much anything anything, and it's especially useful if you're from a lower T1 or T2 (the Yale name on the resume is immensely helpful for OCI).

I worked there last year, so feel free to ask questions about the program and I'll PM you.

You're anon, so can you PM me? This sounds awesome.

Just google it. Its a legal clinic at yale. So it would be good to get practical experience working for the under-privileged. Plus it pays. Plus, you put Yale on your resume which might give you some preftige.

[Manhattan]

1L jobs may matter.

[Kimikho]

FWIW, the Jerome N. Frank Legal Services Organization at Yale Law is a fantastic way to spend 1L summer if you don't land an SA. It pays around $17/hour, including OT and double OT, and Connecticut has a 1L practice allowance. You can literally file briefs in fed court with your name on them, argue the motions, handle the settlement/plea negotiations, etc. It's fantastic substantive experience and probably the next best thing to a SA or in-house position since it's paid and way more substantive experience than pretty much anything anything, and it's especially useful if you're from a lower T1 or T2 (the Yale name on the resume is immensely helpful for OCI).

I worked there last year, so feel free to ask questions about the program and I'll PM you.

You're anon, so can you PM me? This sounds awesome.

Just google it. Its a legal clinic at yale. So it would be good to get practical experience working for the under-privileged. Plus it pays. Plus, you put Yale on your resume which might give you some preftige.

Perhaps some people who wanted anon to PM them had questions about her/his experience.

But thanks for rewriting what anon wrote, that was very helpful.

[Kratos]

FWIW, the Jerome N. Frank Legal Services Organization at Yale Law is a fantastic way to spend 1L summer if you don't land an SA. It pays around $17/hour, including OT and double OT, and Connecticut has a 1L practice allowance. You can literally file briefs in fed court with your name on them, argue the motions, handle the settlement/plea negotiations, etc. It's fantastic substantive experience and probably the next best thing to a SA or in-house position since it's paid and way more substantive experience than pretty much anything anything, and it's especially useful if you're from a lower T1 or T2 (the Yale name on the resume is immensely helpful for OCI).

I worked there last year, so feel free to ask questions about the program and I'll PM you.

You're anon, so can you PM me? This sounds awesome.

Just google it. Its a legal clinic at yale. So it would be good to get practical experience working for the under-privileged. Plus it pays. Plus, you put Yale on your resume which might give you some preftige.

Perhaps some people who wanted anon to PM them had questions about her/his experience.

But thanks for rewriting what anon wrote, that was very helpful.

What else do you really need to know? Honest question.

Edit: I guess if you had questions of the interview process and shit, I feel you.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone know of any decent 1L jobs doing tax? IRS is out because of clearance issues.

[JustHawkin]

Potentially ignorant question:
Are circuit judicial internships a thing? Seems like they aren't advertised as much, so is it just kind of a mass mail to the Judge's JA or what?