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Post by Old Gregg » Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:27 pm

BTW a shout out to Major Lindsay and Africa. FUCK you.

Back when I was interviewing around, I chose to apply for a few jobs through them. They made me wear a suit to meet with them first. On a weekday. 45 minutes from where I work.

I go to the meeting (a few minutes late because I'm busy and in biglaw) and they start to ask me questions. I look at my watch nervously because I have a work meeting coming up. Half an hour flies by, still no end to the questions. We are reaching an hour and I basically tell them I have a full time job and have meetings I have to get to.

And let's get to the questions themselves. They tried to test my knowledge of the law. They asked me shitty behavioral questions that I haven't ever gotten in a legal interview, such as "give us an example of where you made something out of nothing?" And if someone ever did ask me that in an interview, it would probably be my first sign that I should run for the hills.

To boot, they acted all offended when I had to leave. I'm sorry I couldn't spend another hour justifying your jobs.

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Re: Headhunters, Legal Recruiters, etc.

Post by Old Gregg » Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:33 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Thoughts on headhunters that request resumes before telling you about positions?

Is this standard? I'm concerned about horror stories of headhunters spamming your resume all over the place, telling your fellow employees you are looking, etc.
They do that because they're scared you'll just apply on your own once you know the positions.

Which is stupid because that typically means that they don't have exclusivity on the positions so there's no point in working with them.

If a headhunter calls me for an interesting position, I always make sure they have exclusivity.
How do you ask them if they have exclusivity? And why does it matter to you/me whether they are the only recruiter engaged?
It's not hard. Ask if they have exclusivity.

Exclusivity means what it implies: the only way you can apply is through the recruiter. Not on your own even if you know about the position.

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Post by Anonymous User » Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:34 pm

Old Gregg wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Old Gregg wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Thoughts on headhunters that request resumes before telling you about positions?

Is this standard? I'm concerned about horror stories of headhunters spamming your resume all over the place, telling your fellow employees you are looking, etc.
They do that because they're scared you'll just apply on your own once you know the positions.

Which is stupid because that typically means that they don't have exclusivity on the positions so there's no point in working with them.

If a headhunter calls me for an interesting position, I always make sure they have exclusivity.
How do you ask them if they have exclusivity? And why does it matter to you/me whether they are the only recruiter engaged?
It's not hard. Ask if they have exclusivity.

Exclusivity means what it implies: the only way you can apply is through the recruiter. Not on your own even if you know about the position.
Ok, but so what if they don't have exclusivity?

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Post by Old Gregg » Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:34 pm

Then don't bother with using them.

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Post by Big Shrimpin » Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:28 pm

Old Gregg wrote:BTW a shout out to Major Lindsay and Africa. FUCK you.

Back when I was interviewing around, I chose to apply for a few jobs through them. They made me wear a suit to meet with them first. On a weekday. 45 minutes from where I work.

I go to the meeting (a few minutes late because I'm busy and in biglaw) and they start to ask me questions. I look at my watch nervously because I have a work meeting coming up. Half an hour flies by, still no end to the questions. We are reaching an hour and I basically tell them I have a full time job and have meetings I have to get to.

And let's get to the questions themselves. They tried to test my knowledge of the law. They asked me shitty behavioral questions that I haven't ever gotten in a legal interview, such as "give us an example of where you made something out of nothing?" And if someone ever did ask me that in an interview, it would probably be my first sign that I should run for the hills.

To boot, they acted all offended when I had to leave. I'm sorry I couldn't spend another hour justifying your jobs.
ya most lateral interviews are nearly same as OCI

had one or two ask me substantive questions about like writing sample and some behavioral

but there's a good chance you've been vetted before they call you in, so it's often more about fit

also fck recruiters - use a contact at the firm if u have one

if no contact (or if u dont feel comfortable reaching out to someone u barely know, etc.) use lateral.ly/laterallink/gobiglaw and just take the time to keep like a favorites folder of all the websites of firms where youd like to work....this takes time, but firms' recruiting depts like to not use recruiters if they dont have to

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Post by Anonymous User » Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:14 pm

Wanted to jump in and say that you guys should give lateral.ly a look. Cuts out the middle man and has been superb for me thus far. Fast, transparent, no BS phone calls. Anon because, well, I'm in the middle of the lateral process myself. If anyone ends up pulling the trigger on lateral.ly let me know and I'll pm you my referral link.

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Post by thisiswater » Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:30 pm

If you're looking to go in-house recruiters become much more valuable IMO. My PE firm doesn't advertise jobs/post them anywhere and there is no way to directly mail a resume.

And we usually use at least 2 recruiters for most jobs so they don't have exclusivity on the jobs either

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Post by courtneylove » Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:03 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone have experience with BCG?
After I passed the bar a BCG recruiter reached out to me and acted very enthusiastic on the phone, then emailed me back like "nevermind" after he saw my resume. :cry:

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Post by nealric » Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:08 pm

thisiswater wrote:If you're looking to go in-house recruiters become much more valuable IMO. My PE firm doesn't advertise jobs/post them anywhere and there is no way to directly mail a resume.

And we usually use at least 2 recruiters for most jobs so they don't have exclusivity on the jobs either
I had the opposite experience going to F500 in-house. Recruiters were useless. I suppose it all depends.

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Post by Anonymous User » Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:19 pm

nvm

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Post by Barbarbara » Sun May 17, 2015 1:33 am

Anyone have experience with Lateral Link or Lateral.Ly? I've been contacted by reps from both. (I'm a 1-3 year associate moving markets.) PM me if you have any inside info. Thanks!

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Post by Anonymous User » Tue May 26, 2015 10:03 am

Does having a recruiter help or hurt if you aren't currently at a BigLaw firm and don't have top-of-the-line academic credentials?

I graduated top-third of my class at a good Big Ten school (think Indiana, Illinois, Ohio State, etc.) and had some other good extracurricular achievements. The only job I was able to land after law school was at a small firm (15-30 attorneys) in a small market (> 100,000 people).

I've only been here for a little more than 18 months but I'm tired of the small-law work--drafting land installment contracts, wills, etc. I'm already itching to lateral to a nearby market that I have ties to (about the size of Indianapolis, Cleveland, etc.) and am wondering whether I should eventually sign up with a recruiter or instead use my ties to big firms (I know a lot of associates at these firms) instead.

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Post by El Pollito » Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:13 pm

I want to second Major Lindsay and Africa in SF being absolutely terrible. Lateral link sucked too. Actually, all of the Bay Area recruiters I tried sucked, so I went and got a job on my own instead.

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Anyone have any experience with Wegman in Chicago?

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Post by Jay2716 » Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:10 am

El Pollito wrote:I want to second Major Lindsay and Africa in SF being absolutely terrible. Lateral link sucked too. Actually, all of the Bay Area recruiters I tried sucked, so I went and got a job on my own instead.
What was you process? Did you network and mass mail the same way a 2L would? Reach out to classmates in the market?

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Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:06 am

Anyone use a good recruiter in the Bay Area? Or been successful with lateral.ly or lateral link? Looking to move to the bay area and thinking of using lateral.ly plus a recruiter

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Post by esrom55 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:06 am

Anyone know anything about Michael Jude Di Genarro? Got a connection request from him and it seems like he's linking all my rising 2L classmates. Anyone have experience with him, or would a recruiter be at all helpful at this stage?

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Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:28 pm

There's no reason at all to go through a recruiter if the firm posted the job on its website, right?

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Post by El Pollito » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:33 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone use a good recruiter in the Bay Area? Or been successful with lateral.ly or lateral link? Looking to move to the bay area and thinking of using lateral.ly plus a recruiter
No, I went through 4 and don't think there are any.

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Post by El Pollito » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:35 pm

Anonymous User wrote:There's no reason at all to go through a recruiter if the firm posted the job on its website, right?
Yeah, most recruiters are useless. I got a job cold applying on my own. It would be better if you had a connection at the firm to submit you, but I don't see any reason to use a recruiter.

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Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:37 am

Anyone have a good experience with Chicago recruiters? Specifically, has anyone used Wegman Partners or Michelle Mulholland?

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Any experiences with Ryker Joseph & Brick?

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Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:22 pm

Not a recruiter service but has anyone tried using CVBroadcast? Thinking I might give it a shot. I'm open to suggestions.

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Post by Anonymous User » Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:56 am

Does anyone have recommendations for a recruiter who can place in DC?

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