Fall 2014 - 2L OCI Results Forum

[Anonymous User]

School Range: T40
Market(s): NYC
Approximate class rank: Below median, so technically bottom 50%
Law review/secondary journal: secondary journal
Work experience: k-JD
IP background: no
Anything else that might have an impact?: great 1L internship
Screening Interviews: 7
Callbacks received: 2
Callbacks accepted: 2
Offers w/vault ranges: 1 V30 - obviously accepted on the spot
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 2 screeners
Thank-you notes sent: some during OCI, but none that mattered

[Anonymous User]

School Range: CCN
Market(s): NYC
Approximate class rank: above median
Law review/secondary journal: secondary journal
Work experience: some, but nothing major
IP background: no
Anything else that might have an impact?: no
Screening Interviews: 27
Callbacks received: 12
Callbacks accepted: 6
Offers w/vault ranges: 1 V10, 2 V30
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 1 screener
Thank-you notes sent: once. i was rejected

[Anonymous User]

School Range: 15-18
Market(s): DC (first choice), Richmond, Chicago, NYC
Approximate class rank: Top 10%
Law review/secondary journal: Law Review (primary journal)
Work experience: 3.5 years
IP background: n/a
Anything else that might have an impact? I think I am a good interviewer. Mass mailed about 120 firms, nearly all of which were in DC.
Screening Interviews: offered 43, accepted 39
Callbacks received: 20
Callbacks accepted: 14
Offers w/vault ranges: 9 total (V5, V10, V10, V20, V35, V70, V75, V75, V80)
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback?
Thank-you notes sent: Thank you notes sent after every callback or screener conducted in-office. Individualized for each interviewer and for recruiting contact.

[Anonymous User]

School Range: T30
Market(s): NYC, Chicago, Texas, Indy, Michigan, Atlanta, random secondaries
Approximate class rank: Top 10%
Law review/secondary journal: Law Review
Work experience: no professional experience
IP background: n/a
Anything else that might have an impact? Applied extremely broadly and mass mailed like crazy.
Screening Interviews: 65
Callbacks received: 18
Callbacks accepted: 16
Offers w/vault ranges: 5 (V20, V70, 1 boutique, 2 midsize)
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 2
Thank-you notes sent: After the first 5 callbacks, then no.

Accepted at the boutique. Callback to screener ratio was a result of not being able to convince of ties primarily (and average interviewing). Offer to callback ratio was similar (for example, 2 Texas callbacks with no Texas ties).

[Anonymous User]

School Range: DCNG
Market(s): NYC
Approximate class rank: Bottom 50%
Law review/secondary journal: Law review
Work experience: None
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? Lots of networking over the summer, good inteviewer
Screening Interviews: 15
Callbacks received: 6
Callbacks accepted: 5
Offers w/vault ranges: 4 vault, 1 non-vault (V30, V40, V50, V70, 1 big regional- accepted at V50)
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 2
Thank-you notes sent: almost all firms

[North]

School Range: DCNG
Market(s): NYC
Approximate class rank: Bottom 50%
Law review/secondary journal: Law review
Work experience: None
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? Lots of networking over the summer, good inteviewer
Screening Interviews: 15
Callbacks received: 6
Callbacks accepted: 5
Offers w/vault ranges: 4 vault, 1 non-vault (V30, V40, V50, V70, 1 big regional- accepted at V50)
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 2
Thank-you notes sent: almost all firms

I always wondered how write-on LR people with below median grades fared. TY.

[Anonymous User]

School Range: T1 (19-50)
Market(s): DC, NYC
Approximate class rank: 5%
Law review/secondary journal: LR
Work experience: 7 years of non-profit work
IP background: no
Anything else that might have an impact? interned with a federal judge, have an interesting hobby that helps me stand out, lived in DC and NYC
Screening Interviews: 20+
Callbacks received: 4 less than screened
Callbacks accepted: 11
Offers w/vault ranges: 9 (V35 - V3), 5 of which were in the V15. Accepted within the V5 in NYC.
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 0
Thank-you notes sent: Every. damn. time. Even kept up with the partners who were my screeners and personally called them when I accepted.

[Anonymous User]

school Range: TX
Market(s): TX, NYC, smattering of others
Approximate class rank: 25%
Law review/secondary journal: secondary
Work experience: 2 years semi-relevant
IP background: no
Anything else that might have an impact? Not particularly, I think I interview pretty well and am not a Berger King
Screening Interviews: 41 (Job fair, OCI, no mass mailing)
Callbacks received: 15
Callbacks accepted: 12
Offers w/vault ranges: 4 (V10 (NY), V20 (NY), 2x V50(TX and NY)); accepted V10 NY
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? ~5 (1 from callback)
Thank-you notes sent: none whatsoever, a few follow-up emails if it seemed right.

Pro tip: Don't stress the small stuff (aka stop reading tea leaves)

[Anonymous User]

School Range: UT/UCLA/Vandy/USC
Market(s): Texas, DC
Approximate class rank: Just below median
Law review/secondary journal: Secondary journal/ed board
Work experience: K-JD
IP background: no
Anything else that might have an impact? foreign language, 1L SA, gov experience
Screening Interviews: 20
Callbacks received: 9
Callbacks accepted: 8
Offers w/vault ranges: 1 V30, 1 V40, 1 V70
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 4
Thank-you notes sent: Yes, for CB

[Anonymous User]

School Range: Lower T2 (72-87)
Market(s): NYC, DC (minimally)
Approximate class rank: 5%
Law review/secondary journal: LR
Work experience: Minor political campaigns
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? Nah
Screening Interviews: 17
Callbacks received: 9
Callbacks accepted: 4
Offers w/vault ranges: 2; V20 and V50. Accepted V20 before hearing from other two (both V100).
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? No clue. Got my first offer pretty early in OCI process. Stopped tracking after.
Thank-you notes sent: First couple of days of OCI, religiously. After? Never.

[hoos89]

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[North]

Right, because a single self-selected person is representative.

Yeah because that's exactly what I was saying it was, you potato.

Eta: coming back to lol one more time at how stupid a jab that was. Lol.

[hoos89]

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[Anonymous User]

Right, because a single self-selected person is representative.

Yeah because that's exactly what I was saying it was, you potato.

Eta: coming back to lol one more time at how stupid a jab that was. Lol.

Maybe it's not what you meant, but it is what you said. This thread always concerns me a bit because 0Ls and 1Ls might get an overly rosy picture of OCI because people who strike out are far less likely to report their results. Your post played into that, which is why I responded.

I'm waiting to post until I'm 100% sure I struck out. My current 95% isn't good enough....so basically furthering the rosy picture.

[North]

Right, because a single self-selected person is representative.

Yeah because that's exactly what I was saying it was, you potato.

Eta: coming back to lol one more time at how stupid a jab that was. Lol.

Maybe it's not what you meant, but it is what you implied. This thread always concerns me a bit because 0Ls and 1Ls might get an overly rosy picture of OCI because people who strike out are far less likely to report their results. Your post played into that, which is why I responded.

(actual idiot)

Huh, so a thread that is on it's face a collection of anecdotes is subject to reporting bias? Do you have any other insights? Lol, your groundbreaking observation is correct and all, but you can fuck right off trying to make it on the back of my totally innocuous post. I'm the last person who would paint a rosy picture of OCI.

[hoos89]

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[North]

Eh. I mean yeah it's obvious, but that doesn't mean everyone knows it or actively thinks about it. I don't think it would be that difficult for some 1Ls (especially those with good grades) to get a bit complacent when looking at these results.

I always wondered how write-on LR people with below median grades fared. TY.

I mean either you're being sarcastic or you're saying that this person's results are representative.

You're right, there is literally no middle ground there.

You got me bro

[BigZuck]

Eh. I mean yeah it's obvious, but that doesn't mean everyone knows it or actively thinks about it. I don't think it would be that difficult for some 1Ls (especially those with good grades) to get a bit complacent when looking at these results.

I always wondered how write-on LR people with below median grades fared. TY.

Either you're being sarcastic or you're saying that this person's results are at least somewhat representative.

If 1Ls find this thread and ignore the rest of TLS and decide to get complacent they deserve what's coming to them IMO.

Snowflakes gonna snowflake

[North]

I mean either you're being sarcastic or you're saying that this person's results are representative.

Either you're being sarcastic or you're saying that this person's results are at least somewhat representative.

Oh hey, I see you ninja-edited this to where it's actually entirely devoid of substance. Cool. In that case, yes, I was saying that (considering it's representative of at least one person's experience with that situation) the person's results are at least somewhat representative of what someone in that situation might experience.

If 1Ls find this thread and ignore the rest of TLS and decide to get complacent they deserve what's coming to them IMO.

Snowflakes gonna snowflake

Agree. And even if a bunch of people do do that, this thread is still one of the more valuable resources on TLS for guiding outcome expectations.

[hoos89]

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[BigZuck]

What kind of complacency are you worried about? Sub-median LR write on T14 bros won't mass mail enough? They'll just bid V10 firms and call it a day? If they do that because North said "Huh, interesting" off-handedly ITT then that's totally on them duder.

[hoos89]

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[North]

Yeah nothing really ~grinds my gears~ quite like a late-to-the-party mischaracterization of one of my posts to make a glaringly obvious point. Just riles me up bro what can I say

[nsideirish]

Can we delete these posts and keep this on topic?

[Anonymous User]

School Range: 101-120
Market(s): DC, NYC
Approximate class rank: Top 15%, Top 11% after re-rank due to transfers
Law review/secondary journal: Law Review
Work experience: Yes, 7 years, financial services
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? High level fed gov internship 1L summer
Screening Interviews: 10
Callbacks received: 2
Callbacks accepted: 2
Offers w/vault ranges: 1, V50-60, DC
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? Not sure
Thank-you notes sent: only after callback to firm that extended offer