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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by PinkRevolver » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:30 am

Didn't mean to post that anon

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Monochromatic Oeuvre » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:32 am

wiz wrote:
Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:
1. If you think getting two offers but not converting the one callback you had in the country's toughest legal market is striking out, talk to someone who actually struck out and see how long it takes for them to punch you in the face.

2. Your offer rate might suck because you're tone-deaf; see e.g. #1.

3. Why the fuck does every law student want to work in DC despite the fact that 95% of the work DC does are things students claim not to be interested in? It's seriously baffling. I mean what the fuck is going through the head of someone who wants to do transactional work applying to DC at all? Is this just a product of every single Poli Sci major doing an internship on the Hill when they were 19 and deciding that was relevant to where they base their entire legal career or what?
Because working in NY blows, and DC is the only other place where you arguably don't need strong ties.
I'm not convinced DC is at all better. It's slightly cheaper but it doesn't seem like the majority of students give a shit about COL. And it's got the highest average arrogance/actual importance ratio of any place in the country.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Pumpkin-Duke of Pie » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:36 am

JCougar wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:4/6 in SF~PA
3/4 in DC
0 in Chicago
t14 33% IP WHY DOES CHICAGO HATE ME
Because Chicago IP = dead

at least I think. I did similarly awful in Chicago IP market. I only got like 1 offer there after heavily bidding it.
Chicago everything = dead.

Today I was going through file drawers for 8 hours (discovery) with a new unpaid fellow from c/o 2014. Before I knew his school, he started complaining about how the job market was pure shit, but he did mention striking out at interviews for a few prestigious jobs, so I knew it was somewhere at least decent. He went to C.

I've seen two job openings in the entire last year in my practice area for less than 2 years of experience.

Lesson: Don't be a moron and make Chicago your main target, and don't waste your time taking the IL bar exam unless you already have something lined up.
This makes me feel soooooo much better. Thank you, srsly.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Desert Fox » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:39 am

jbagelboy wrote:
Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Lower T14
Top 25% of Class
looking for Transactional
75% NYC, 25% DC
Ties in both places
2/10 NYC
0/1 DC

How can my offer rate be so abysmal and why haven't I heard anything from DC for three weeks? I had a DC partner literally say that he would be in touch by the end of the week with a CB offer and then I got a snail mail rejection letter three weeks later...
1. If you think getting two offers but not converting the one callback you had in the country's toughest legal market is striking out, talk to someone who actually struck out and see how long it takes for them to punch you in the face.

2. Your offer rate might suck because you're tone-deaf; see e.g. #1.

3. Why the fuck does every law student want to work in DC despite the fact that 95% of the work DC does are things students claim not to be interested in? It's seriously baffling. I mean what the fuck is going through the head of someone who wants to do transactional work applying to DC at all? Is this just a product of every single Poli Sci major doing an internship on the Hill when they were 19 and deciding that was relevant to where they base their entire legal career or what?
it's gotta be the barbecue. that house of cards shit
DC bbq sucks massive cock.
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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by B.B. Homemaker » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:55 am

Desert Fox wrote:
DC bbq sucks massive cock.
DC BBQ? just lol

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:47 pm

0/6 right now on post-callbacks. 2 more to go with 2 screeners to go as well, waiting on 1 response still. I have to drastically change the way I am in these interviews.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Desert Fox » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote:0/6 right now on post-callbacks. 2 more to go with 2 screeners to go as well, waiting on 1 response still. I have to drastically change the way I am in these interviews.
Self dianose, what is wrong with you
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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:02 am

Roughly 30 screeners in selective markets for IP, 9 CBs (cancelled 1). Also roughly 50-60 screeners for generic NYC V1-100 BigLaw, pitched Xactional for the Xactional firms and lit for the lit firms. 3 CBs for these generic general practice corporate firms

Ended up with 4 offers in selective markets in IP, but 0 offers from my 3 CBs in NYC which is supposed to be the easiest place to break in.

Median @ t7

Why did I strike out on NYC and all non-IP jobs u w0t m8 wtf?
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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by patogordo » Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:04 am

DF are you drumming up interest in your own thread by posting anon

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

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patogordo wrote:DF are you drumming up interest in your own thread by posting anon
:lol: :lol:

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by rickgrimes69 » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:03 am

just lol @ tears being shed over not getting offers in a particular, tiny, competitive market

you didn't strike out if you get an offer you idiots

also DC is a rancid shithole swamp-town, why anybody would want to work there is beyond me

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:16 am

rickgrimes69 wrote:just lol @ tears being shed over not getting offers in a particular, tiny, competitive market

you didn't strike out if you get an offer you idiots

also DC is a rancid shithole swamp-town, why anybody would want to work there is beyond me


Anon above-i had the reverse, was hoping for prestigious finance work in the GOAT city (NY) but only ended up getting offers in declining markets or in the rancid swamptown. Everyone said oh yea use all our bids on NY it's so much easier than everywhere else and then I struck out there Wtf mayne

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by runinthefront » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:38 am

The thread topic was very specific, yet people with offers in hand are still asking why they struck out of a particular market. It's incredible
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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by B.B. Homemaker » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:44 am

Offers from V2-V50, but still waiting to hear back from a CB I'm currently in with a V1.

Why has this happened to me, DF??! I exfoliate regularly and am top 1% at a T1. :cry: :cry:

Also, no, the partner can't see me typing right now, so that can't be it.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:01 pm

12 CBs but only 4 offers. I feel like that's not a good ratio. Am I secretly aspie :(

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Mal Reynolds » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:03 pm

Anonymous User wrote:12 CBs but only 4 offers. I feel like that's not a good ratio. Am I secretly aspie :(
Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

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patogordo wrote:DF are you drumming up interest in your own thread by posting anon

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:04 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Top 20% T20, Bid heavily 2/3 NY, 1/3 DC. Mass-mailed all secondary markets I had real ties too. Had 4 callbacks.
How was your interviewing skills? 4 CB's is a lot, but going 0/4 sucks. You shouldn't have bid DC at all.

You should mass mail even more places.

But you struck out because you went to a TTT20. Sorry bro, those are semi-target schools.
DF I hustled up 3 more callbacks. how do I woo them

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by A. Nony Mouse » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:06 pm

Anonymous User wrote:12 CBs but only 4 offers. I feel like that's not a good ratio. Am I secretly aspie :(
God I love the crisis of confidence when all these "I've always won every brass ring ever" people suddenly don't win every brass ring.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:30 pm

Below median at CCN. Bid one-third California (with ties) and two-thirds NY. Zero callbacks.

200 mass mails, two callbacks, zero offers.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Desert Fox » Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:40 pm

B.B. Homemaker wrote:
patogordo wrote:DF are you drumming up interest in your own thread by posting anon
:lol: :lol:
It's not too far off, but i wouldnt pitch transactional.
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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Desert Fox » Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:42 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Below median at CCN. Bid one-third California (with ties) and two-thirds NY. Zero callbacks.

200 mass mails, two callbacks, zero offers.

Bad interviewer and went to NYU
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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:04 pm

Sigh...entering thread.

Pros: LR, moot court, 1L summer fedgov internship and WE (albeit nonlegal) in area of law I want to practice.

Cons: T2. Top 15% (which seems to have put me just outside the range of folks that got all the screeners at a T2 no-lottery school).

???: URM (and could count on one hand the number of URMs that I had as interviewers, FWIW. Not trying to start anything, just saying). Also, second career, so I have some years on most of my classmates.

I have been told I interview well. I have been a TLS devotee since pre-LSAT. (Did not retake, took T2 at very generous low-stip scholly instead of T1 at sticker.) And yet...8 screeners through career services, 0 callbacks. One straight-to-CB through personal connections, from which I had a second interview, but then silence for over a week. Lots of mass mailing, some (but obviously not enough) networking.

What say you?

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:11 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Below median at CCN. Bid one-third California (with ties) and two-thirds NY. Zero callbacks.

200 mass mails, two callbacks, zero offers.

Bad interviewer and went to NYU
Not NYU but thank you.

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Re: DF tells you why you struck out at OCI

Post by oblig.lawl.ref » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:12 pm

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Median @ t7
It's probably because of this. t5 or bust.

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

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