What's with all these pre-OCI offers? Forum

[Anonymous User]

Anyone have info on the timeline between callback and offer at Cadwalader?

[baal hadad]

Anyone have info on the timeline between callback and offer at Cadwalader?

Stop reading teaeaved and start mass mailing

[Anonymous User]

for those who have skadden ny offer, do you mind sharing school/grades?

CCN, diverse, ~top 30%

congrats! but it seems odd that skadden is already extending offers to CCN students since they obviously will be present at OCI

[mommalee]

Maybe I'm confused, but doesn't having an early offer mean it's more likely that you have to commit to that firm given the NALP timeline rules? Obviously a job is the goal, but just curious.

[Anonymous User]

Maybe I'm confused, but doesn't having an early offer mean it's more likely that you have to commit to that firm given the NALP timeline rules? Obviously a job is the goal, but just curious.

Firms I've gotten offers from have given 28 days from the day OCI is supposed to start.

[wiz]

Maybe I'm confused, but doesn't having an early offer mean it's more likely that you have to commit to that firm given the NALP timeline rules? Obviously a job is the goal, but just curious.

Depends. Some firms give you 4 weeks from the date on your offer letter, while others start the clock later (after you go through OCI and callbacks with those firms). Regardless, since offers are made on a rolling basis, you want to be applying early in the process while there are a lot of spots available.

You can always ask for an extension if you have callbacks coming up at the end of your timeline. And even if you receive an early August offer, you have plenty of time to go through OCI, go through CBs, and try to cop offers. You also can try asking firms for expedited decisions by letting them know you have a decision deadline coming up.

[Mal Reynolds]

Maybe I'm confused, but doesn't having an early offer mean it's more likely that you have to commit to that firm given the NALP timeline rules? Obviously a job is the goal, but just curious.

That sounds like one of those good problems to have.

[Anonymous User]

.

[cookiejar1]

what happens if you "break the rules"?

You can't do OCI are any other OCS event. I guess this is assuming you also get caught.

Eta: I should "I think" before that answer. That's what i remember will happen but cannot look it up exactly right now. I will later if I remember.

This is in our rules, procedures, and policy handbook re: OCI but I'd be shocked if it were actually enforced. In fact I would even go so far as to encourage people to just mass mail regardless.

[FlowBro]

Anyone have info on the timeline between callback and offer at Cadwalader?

Stop reading teaeaved and start mass mailing

Stop being an asshole and start respecting other people.

[baal hadad]

Anyone have info on the timeline between callback and offer at Cadwalader?

Stop reading teaeaved and start mass mailing

Stop being an asshole and start respecting other people.

That advice is pretty good avtually; you seem mad

[sundance95]

what happens if you "break the rules"?

You can't do OCI are any other OCS event. I guess this is assuming you also get caught.

Eta: I should "I think" before that answer. That's what i remember will happen but cannot look it up exactly right now. I will later if I remember.

This is in our rules, procedures, and policy handbook re: OCI but I'd be shocked if it were actually enforced. In fact I would even go so far as to encourage people to just mass mail regardless.

Thiiiiiiiiis. The rule is there to protect OCI fees that firms pay to schools. However, in this market schools are much more concerned about employment for grads than fees; it keeps the new student gravy train rolling.

[Anonymous User]

for those who have skadden ny offer, do you mind sharing school/grades?

CCN, diverse, ~top 30%

congrats! but it seems odd that skadden is already extending offers to CCN students since they obviously will be present at OCI

Another skadden offer here, CCN, diverse, ~top 25%

[FSK]

It seems that everyone getting these offers is already very qualiifed for the position. (Top 25% CCN seems way strong for most NY V10s). If many firms are filling up their class space like this, the top students going into OCI will just have even more offers to choose from.

I don't see how, logically, this will hurt anyone at the middle/bottom of the pool beyond how bad it already is. I really just imagine that the process will linger longer, with top candidates accepting one offer to open up a ton more spots.

[Anonymous User]

It seems that everyone getting these offers is already very qualiifed for the position. (Top 25% CCN seems way strong for most NY V10s). If many firms are filling up their class space like this, the top students going into OCI will just have even more offers to choose from.

I don't see how, logically, this will hurt anyone at the middle/bottom of the pool beyond how bad it already is. I really just imagine that the process will linger longer, with top candidates accepting one offer to open up a ton more spots.

A decent amount of the offers I know about, actually, are people at or around median at lower T-14. Definitely not limited to the top of the class

People getting Skadden at top 25-30% from CCN are not unusually qualified, that is right on par. We are talking about top firms here that only recruit top students from top schools. As for recruiting for other firms, can't say anything about that, but V100 firms are recruiting now and they are not just taking auto-offer candidates.

[sweeteavodka]

It seems that everyone getting these offers is already very qualiifed for the position. (Top 25% CCN seems way strong for most NY V10s). If many firms are filling up their class space like this, the top students going into OCI will just have even more offers to choose from.

I don't see how, logically, this will hurt anyone at the middle/bottom of the pool beyond how bad it already is. I really just imagine that the process will linger longer, with top candidates accepting one offer to open up a ton more spots.

A decent amount of the offers I know about, actually, are people at or around median at lower T-14. Definitely not limited to the top of the class

I'm interested to know if there are any lower T1 or T2 top 5-10% folks getting CBs or whether this trend is limited to T-14.

[Anonymous User]

It seems that everyone getting these offers is already very qualiifed for the position. (Top 25% CCN seems way strong for most NY V10s). If many firms are filling up their class space like this, the top students going into OCI will just have even more offers to choose from.

I don't see how, logically, this will hurt anyone at the middle/bottom of the pool beyond how bad it already is. I really just imagine that the process will linger longer, with top candidates accepting one offer to open up a ton more spots.

A decent amount of the offers I know about, actually, are people at or around median at lower T-14. Definitely not limited to the top of the class

I'm interested to know if there are any lower T1 or T2 top 5-10% folks getting CBs or whether this trend is limited to T-14.

I'm top 5% at a regional T1 school and I had what I think was a call back (4 30 minute interviews but no lunch) with a V50 New York firm earlier this week. That has been my only one so far though from mass mailing.

[Anonymous User]

It seems that everyone getting these offers is already very qualiifed for the position. (Top 25% CCN seems way strong for most NY V10s). If many firms are filling up their class space like this, the top students going into OCI will just have even more offers to choose from.

I don't see how, logically, this will hurt anyone at the middle/bottom of the pool beyond how bad it already is. I really just imagine that the process will linger longer, with top candidates accepting one offer to open up a ton more spots.

A decent amount of the offers I know about, actually, are people at or around median at lower T-14. Definitely not limited to the top of the class

I'm interested to know if there are any lower T1 or T2 top 5-10% folks getting CBs or whether this trend is limited to T-14.

I'm top 5% at a regional T1 school and I had what I think was a call back (4 30 minute interviews but no lunch) with a V50 New York firm earlier this week. That has been my only one so far though from mass mailing.

Same this. but T25 Median looking at NYC. 1 reject, no word on the other higher ranked firm. 2nd round with v25 tomorrow.

[Anonymous User]

For those of you freaking out about not having a bunch of pre-OCI CB's, I'll say that it's still far from understood at top firms that everyone will be doing this or have this opportunity, and the vast majority of offers will result from OCI. I had two V10 CB's prior to OCI and all the attorneys and partners I spoke to were really surprised when I told them I hadn't had on campus recruiting yet, or that I wasn't in the middle of it. No one particularly cared, but it was certainly unusual. All the other interviewees I met at those firms were from other school's OCI's or the job fairs those schools host in NYC.

The recruiting staff were a little more aware of the circumstance, but they still acted as though it was unusual. Most of the attorneys/recruiting personnel told me in retrospect it was a good idea even though they were surprised; one flat out said it was pointless to do what I'd done (in a nicer way) and most were neutral. So take that for what it's worth.

[Anonymous User]

Was participating in the CCBA fair (not anymore because of offers), and one of the top 3 Chicago firms contacted me about having a screener since I didn't get one through the lottery. I go to one of NW and UChi and they obviously come to OCI

[Anonymous User]

Anyone have info on the timeline between callback and offer at Cadwalader?

Stop reading teaeaved and start mass mailing

Oh, I totally am. Just curious to see how long after callbacks people who got offers heard back.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone skipping OCI altogether due to pre-OCI stuff?

[Anonymous User]

It seems that everyone getting these offers is already very qualiifed for the position. (Top 25% CCN seems way strong for most NY V10s). If many firms are filling up their class space like this, the top students going into OCI will just have even more offers to choose from.

I don't see how, logically, this will hurt anyone at the middle/bottom of the pool beyond how bad it already is. I really just imagine that the process will linger longer, with top candidates accepting one offer to open up a ton more spots.

A decent amount of the offers I know about, actually, are people at or around median at lower T-14. Definitely not limited to the top of the class

I'm interested to know if there are any lower T1 or T2 top 5-10% folks getting CBs or whether this trend is limited to T-14.

I'm top 5% at a regional T1 school and I had what I think was a call back (4 30 minute interviews but no lunch) with a V50 New York firm earlier this week. That has been my only one so far though from mass mailing.

Ranked 2nd at Fordham/BU/BC/GW, two offers (one from 1L SA, one from early callback). OCI hasn't started yet.