Quick anecdote for small town folks who want NYC/large city Forum

[dixiecupdrinking]

Honestly, how dare anyone ask anything of anyone in a job interview.

[smallfirmassociate]

That's all it takes most of the time. NYSprague is just telling you, for your own benefit, to have something better than the usual bullshit about enjoying [insert New York attraction].

"I've always wanted to bungee jump off of that French Statute you have and fondle Lady Liberty's sweet, sweet bosom. Do you think that could be arranged?"

[Pokemon]

The real question is how much of an inferiority complex do people from some states have to be butthurt about nysprague'so suggestion on how to approach why ny?

If someone was advising me on why x state, I would not throw a hissy fit about it.

[A. Nony Mouse]

I mean, I get the reaction to an implication that small-town = rube, but I don't think NYS was saying he'd only ask this of small-town applicants - that just happened to be his example. I suspect he'd ask the same thing of anyone who didn't appear to have any significant experience in NYC or its environs.

He said some things that led me to believe that he geared the interview approach to this guy because he was rural, not just because he was from a place other than NYC. The OP said:

I pushed him hard on why he wanted New York.
...
You need to realize that I lived in NYC my entire life. I had strong doubts that this person from the middle of nowhere could be happy here.

OP didn't say that he also has strong doubts about whether people from Miami could be happy in NYC, but I made a reasonable inference based on his post that he probably wouldn't. Otherwise he could have framed the post with "I interview people who are not from NYC and ____." It was obviously relevant to OP that this guy was a VERY rural guy and that he was from SD, etc.

But I mean, NYers think everything not in NY is in the middle of nowhere.

But also, even though there are plenty of reasons why someone wants to get out of One Horse, WY, it's still not weird to wonder whether, if what they really want is just to get out of Dodge, NY is actually where they want to be. Seriously, lots of rural people hate NY. Lots of urban people hate NY.

[beachbum]

I'm suburban and I hate New York.

[A. Nony Mouse]

you guys too.

[guano]

The real question is how much of an inferiority complex do people from some states have to be butthurt about nysprague'so suggestion on how to approach why ny?

If someone was advising me on why x state, I would not throw a hissy fit about it.

Yeah this.

Some people can and will work wherever and not care about the location. Others care more about where they are, quality of life, not living in a shoebox, etc.
It wouldn't surprise me if the people doing the complaining are the ones itching to leave before their rental agreement needs to be renewed.

I love living here, but New York fucking sucks balls far more than people who haven't lived and worked here realize

[smaug_]

The real question is how much of an inferiority complex do people from some states have to be butthurt about nysprague'so suggestion on how to approach why ny?

If someone was advising me on why x state, I would not throw a hissy fit about it.

Yeah this.

Some people can and will work wherever and not care about the location. Others care more about where they are, quality of life, not living in a shoebox, etc.
It wouldn't surprise me if the people doing the complaining are the ones itching to leave before their rental agreement needs to be renewed.

I love living here, but New York fucking sucks balls far more than people who haven't lived and worked here realize

Because as the leader of the petty tirade against sunynp, I'm laugh at another example of mediocre advice being dispensed by someone who is clearly a dunce. I don't expect to convince someone of something while I'm calling them an idiot, but the childish "thanks so much" show that sunynp can't imagine the fact that one can work a biglaw job, want to give advice and still be really really bad at it.

With you guano, maybe you're a biglaw summer now? If so it'll be interesting to see if your advice changes after real experience instead of basing everything on "as someone who once worked with lawyers."

[itbdvorm]

FWIW - many, many people send goodbye emails that feature lines such as "moving back to X"

People not planning to move back to X may stay longer. That is better.

[guano]

The real question is how much of an inferiority complex do people from some states have to be butthurt about nysprague'so suggestion on how to approach why ny?

If someone was advising me on why x state, I would not throw a hissy fit about it.

Yeah this.

Some people can and will work wherever and not care about the location. Others care more about where they are, quality of life, not living in a shoebox, etc.
It wouldn't surprise me if the people doing the complaining are the ones itching to leave before their rental agreement needs to be renewed.

I love living here, but New York fucking sucks balls far more than people who haven't lived and worked here realize

Because as the leader of the petty tirade against sunynp, I'm laugh at another example of mediocre advice being dispensed by someone who is clearly a dunce. I don't expect to convince someone of something while I'm calling them an idiot, but the childish "thanks so much" show that sunynp can't imagine the fact that one can work a biglaw job, want to give advice and still be really really bad at it.

With you guano, maybe you're a biglaw summer now? If so it'll be interesting to see if your advice changes after real experience instead of basing everything on "as someone who once worked with lawyers."

Nah, I don't work for a measly $70 per billable hour (even less per hour worked). I get paid

[smaug_]

FWIW - many, many people send goodbye emails that feature lines such as "moving back to X"

People not planning to move back to X may stay longer. That is better.

I get this. I'm just letting sunynp know that "moving back to Minneapolis" and "moving back to Sioux Falls" aren't the same thing, even if it seems like it to native New Yorkers

Nah, I don't work for a measly $70 per billable hour (even less per hour worked). I get paid

This is gold. TLS is already delivering today.

[NYSprague]

FWIW - many, many people send goodbye emails that feature lines such as "moving back to X"

People not planning to move back to X may stay longer. That is better.

I get this. I'm just letting sunynp know that "moving back to Minneapolis" and "moving back to Sioux Falls" aren't the same thing, even if it seems like it to native New Yorkers

Nah, I don't work for a measly $70 per billable hour (even less per hour worked). I get paid

This is gold. TLS is already delivering today.

I just want to clarify I was talking about a tiny town (think less than 1000 people) not an area like Minneapolis or Sioux Falls.

It wasn't my intention to be rude by thanking people for their opinions. I just only need to be told I'm stupid once and I get it. That's all. I don't have anything to add after that.

Maybe I thought his answer was great because he is just personable and likable so he sold it well.

At any rate, maybe this thread was helpful if only to show people sometimes you have to be prepared for idiots asking idiotic questions in interviews.

[guano]

At any rate, maybe this thread was helpful if only to show people sometimes you have to be prepared for idiots not appreciating good advice.

[itbdvorm]

FWIW - many, many people send goodbye emails that feature lines such as "moving back to X"

People not planning to move back to X may stay longer. That is better.

I get this. I'm just letting sunynp know that "moving back to Minneapolis" and "moving back to Sioux Falls" aren't the same thing, even if it seems like it to native New Yorkers

Nah, I don't work for a measly $70 per billable hour (even less per hour worked). I get paid

This is gold. TLS is already delivering today.

I just want to clarify I was talking about a tiny town (think less than 1000 people) not an area like Minneapolis or Sioux Falls.

It wasn't my intention to be rude by thanking people for their opinions. I just only need to be told I'm stupid once and I get it. That's all. I don't have anything to add after that.

Maybe I thought his answer was great because he is just personable and likable so he sold it well.

At any rate, maybe this thread was helpful if only to show people sometimes you have to be prepared for idiots asking idiotic questions in interviews.

For the record - not sure that distinction actually matters.

I'll reiterate that most people who leave don't go back to a tiny town. They go back to reasonably major metropolitan areas (after all, doing M&A in NY translates fine to doing M&A in St. Louis, probably useless in a one-horse town).

People who really want to be in NY (not "well, I'm at a good school, so I should start in NY, that's what people do") will stay longer. A girl who grew up on Long Island once said to me that she wished she was from someplace else, so she could go back there, instead of being "stuck" here.