2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data Forum

[Anonymous User]

Proskauer New York:

Harvard: 3
Columbia: 3
NYU: 5
Berkeley: 2
Penn: 1
Duke: 1
Cornell: 3
Northwestern: 1
GTown: 2

Cardozo: 1
Hofstra: 1
WUSTL: 1
Brooklyn: 1
UToronto: 1
Tulane: 1
1 Unknown
Total 28

[Old Gregg]

I don't understand this dumb trend of separation T14 from non-T14. It should really be ordered by quantity of students from each school.

[concurrent fork]

Wow thats a huge class-size increase for GP. They did give a lot of 3L OCI interviews, so I guess business is booming.

At their cocktail event for rising 2Ls this past summer, I think they said they were aiming for a class of 19 in Boston, so business must have ticked up considerable and recently.

What goes up...

Exactly. Maybe some firms are drowning in business right now, but it seems like a huge gamble to bring in a summer class at or above pre-ITE levels (looking at you DPW). Even a minor event could derail the "recovery" any time between now and Q4 2013 when these kids start. Of course, the students bear all of the risk in this scenario so maybe they don't care.

[Anonymous User]

Cravath

Columbia 18
Harvard 18
NYU 13
Yale 10
Cornell 5
Northwestern 3
Fordham 2
Texas 2
Chicago 1
Duke 1
Georgetown 1
Howard 1
Michigan 1
Osgoode 1
Penn 1
Stanford 1
WUSTL 1

TOTAL: 80

[LawIdiot86]

Cravath

Columbia 18
Harvard 18
NYU 13
Yale 10
Cornell 5
Northwestern 3
Fordham 2
Texas 2
Chicago 1
Duke 1
Georgetown 1
Howard 1
Michigan 1
Osgoode 1
Penn 1
Stanford 1
WUSTL 1

TOTAL: 80

Northwestern and Cornell outperform Stanford and Chicago? Moderately surprised.

[5ky]

Cravath

Columbia 18
Harvard 18
NYU 13
Yale 10
Cornell 5
Northwestern 3
Fordham 2
Texas 2
Chicago 1
Duke 1
Georgetown 1
Howard 1
Michigan 1
Osgoode 1
Penn 1
Stanford 1
WUSTL 1

TOTAL: 80

Northwestern and Cornell outperform Stanford and Chicago? Moderately surprised.

I'm not surprised -- and you can't really take accepted offers as evidence of outplacing.

[Lincoln]

Cravath

Columbia 18
Harvard 18
NYU 13
Yale 10
Cornell 5
Northwestern 3
Fordham 2
Texas 2
Chicago 1
Duke 1
Georgetown 1
Howard 1
Michigan 1
Osgoode 1
Penn 1
Stanford 1
WUSTL 1

TOTAL: 80

Northwestern and Cornell outperform Stanford and Chicago? Moderately surprised.

I'm not surprised -- and you can't really take accepted offers as evidence of outplacing.

Same is true for STB and DPW, though, despite similar class size. Could be because those schools place better in DC, but as far as NYC goes, it seems to be true.

[5ky]

Small class sizes for Stanford and UChicago + self-selection out of NY make those kind of comparisons a fool's errand.

[Anonymous User]

Cahill (41)

Berkeley - 1
Duke - 2
Illinois - 3
Georgetown - 2
Cornell - 3
UVA - 3
Iowa - 1
GWU - 1
NYU - 1
Fordham - 2
Buffalo - 1
Temple - 1
Columbia - 4
Harvard - 3
WUSTL - 1
W&M - 1
Georgia - 1
Brooklyn - 1
Emory - 1
NW - 1
BC - 2
UNC - 1
Tulane - 1
NY Law - 1
Vandy - 1
W&L - 1

Astoundingly unprestigious, especially considering cahill's giant bonuses. I guess people stlll want to be paid in prestige points.

[Anonymous User]

Astoundingly unprestigious, especially considering cahill's giant bonuses. I guess people stlll want to be paid in prestige points.

Cahill, based upon reputation and the contemptuous way they treated people at my school's OCI, is also full of assholes and likely a poor place to work.

[Anonymous User]

Astoundingly unprestigious, especially considering cahill's giant bonuses. I guess people stlll want to be paid in prestige points.

Cahill, based upon reputation and the contemptuous way they treated people at my school's OCI, is also full of assholes and likely a poor place to work.

Yeah, I did not get a good vibe from them during my callback.

[Anonymous User]

nvm

[5ky]

^Posted already, pg. 3.

[Anonymous User]

Astoundingly unprestigious, especially considering cahill's giant bonuses. I guess people stlll want to be paid in prestige points.

Cahill, based upon reputation and the contemptuous way they treated people at my school's OCI, is also full of assholes and likely a poor place to work.

Yeah, my interviewer was almost 20 minutes late, which jeopardized another interview I had set up at the end of the day. Total prick.

[Anonymous User]

For those interested in the Midwest:

Frost Brown Todd (All Offices)

Notre Dame (4)
OSU (3)
Indy-Indy (1)
WUSTL (1)
GWU (1)
Harvard (1)
Penn (1)
Illinois (1)
Louisville (1)

Total: 14

[thexfactor]

I'm shocked at the lack of T2 schools. I thought people who were top 5% at T2s had a good chance for biglaw ny or other v100.

[Anonymous User]

For those interested in the Midwest:

Frost Brown Todd (All Offices)

Notre Dame (4)
OSU (3)
Indy-Indy (1)
WUSTL (1)
GWU (1)
Harvard (1)
Penn (1)
Illinois (1)
Louisville (1)

Total: 14

Thanks for that. Do you have the breakdown by office?

[Anonymous User]

Does anybody have Wachtell yet? I know that quite a few people from my school are going, and I'd be interested in seeing the breakdown.

[Anonymous User]

Where are the Cleary and S&C breakdowns? I know those firms are out!

[sjedood]

Why do you guys even care what the distributions are? If you have a SA position, then its already done. If your a 1L looking at prospective firms, you could find your schools distribution from OCS. If your a 0L, get into law school first!

[dixiecupdrinking]

I'm a 2L and I just think it's interesting.

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[skers]

I've obviously made a huge mistake. Judging from this chart it should be Osgoode or bust.

[Helmholtz]

I've obviously made a huge mistake. Judging from this chart it should be Osgoode or bust.

Anybody who chose Harvard over UCLA is probably kicking themselves right now too.

[Anonymous User]

Quinn Emanuel firmwide total 55

T14:
Harvard 8
Stanford 2
Columbia 3
Chicago 3
NYU 4
Berkeley 5
UVA 3
Michigan 3
Penn 2
Northwestern 3
Georgetown 4

non-T14:
Texas 5
UCLA 2
Wash U 1
GW 2
Fordham 2
Hastings 2
Seton Hall 1