rough relation with partner at 1L SA firm Forum

[T14_Scholly]

Man it sounds fun to be a biglaw associate.

[Hitachi]

Either my firm is a lot more laid-back than most, or I'm about to get no-offered.

[steve_nash]

I'm currently a SA. I have never accounted to anyone -- no sticky notes on my computer, nothing -- where I am during the day. Do I carry my Blackberry religiously? Yes. Do I leave my desk for 20 minutes to take a break (aside from lunch)? No. Maybe my firm is laid-back, but as long as I'm responsive to calls or e-mails and get my work done well, I don't think they care where I am.

[let/them/eat/cake]

Good to see the usual suspects are here to just spout downright mean shit.

I don't know what's happened to this site the last few weeks....maybe people have finally seen the writing on the wall that LS was a shit idea for them?

But the Forum for Law Students and Legal Employment forums have turned into XO. People, if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all or at least be civil.

"This is news? This website reeked from day one. Over a year on here in I gotta tell you how we pay the rent? . . . Are you fucking soft? "

[A'nold]

LOL. At my firm, we can basically do whatever we want. It is completely hands-off and everybody is super chill while being hard workers. We have early Friday drinking parties and go out to lunch bought by the firm's owner constantly. This is basically my dream job as they work very hard but play very hard as well. Coolest bunch of people I've ever worked with.

[blsingindisguise]

LOL. At my firm, we can basically do whatever we want. It is completely hands-off and everybody is super chill while being hard workers. We have early Friday drinking parties and go out to lunch bought by the firm's owner constantly. This is basically my dream job as they work very hard but play very hard as well. Coolest bunch of people I've ever worked with.

I'm really not trying to be a dick here, but you do realize that being a first year associate is not like being a summer associate.

[Kobe_Teeth]

LOL. At my firm, we can basically do whatever we want. It is completely hands-off and everybody is super chill while being hard workers. We have early Friday drinking parties and go out to lunch bought by the firm's owner constantly. This is basically my dream job as they work very hard but play very hard as well. Coolest bunch of people I've ever worked with.

Nice! Why do you want to transfer again?

[Anonymous User]

LOL. At my firm, we can basically do whatever we want. It is completely hands-off and everybody is super chill while being hard workers. We have early Friday drinking parties and go out to lunch bought by the firm's owner constantly. This is basically my dream job as they work very hard but play very hard as well. Coolest bunch of people I've ever worked with.

salary? major or secondary market?

[roranoa]

This thread is awesome because the OP doesn't get it

[ruski]

some of the posters responding are being way more ridiculous than OP. putting sticky notes on your screen? don't be that guy. and your boss definitely doesn't want you interrupting him 5 times a day everytime you grap a coffee/take a long shit/go talk to someone. he isn't your babysitter. he will just get annoyed as 95% of the time he doesnt care where you are as most interns are useless. with that said, you should still be at your desk most of the day. if EVERYTIME the partner walks by your desk and you are not there, then that could get suspicious. but as long as you are turning in the little work he gives you on time he wont really care.

[ScaredWorkedBored]

Spending time on your significant other during work = terminated. That's not a "mean law firm" thing, either. Plenty of companies will terminate you on the spot for personal e-mail use, let alone "Hey, BF's here, lata."

Hell, when my father was working in-house, he summarily fired someone for similar. Now, getting in the face of the GC who happens to be in your department to talk to your boss probably didn't help matters. But considering "talk back to GC" was believed to be appropriate response to GC wondering "You work here, what the hell are you doing kissing someone in the lobby at 10:45 am?" there seems to be a connection.

This person had worked there for 3 1/2 years, by the way. They mailed him his stuff.

[romothesavior]

Spending time on your significant other during work = terminated. That's not a "mean law firm" thing, either. Plenty of companies will terminate you on the spot for personal e-mail use, let alone "Hey, BF's here, lata."

Hell, when my father was working in-house, he summarily fired someone for similar. Now, getting in the face of the GC who happens to be in your department to talk to your boss probably didn't help matters. But considering "talk back to GC" was believed to be appropriate response to GC wondering "You work here, what the hell are you doing kissing someone in the lobby at 10:45 am?" there seems to be a connection.

This person had worked there for 3 1/2 years, by the way. They mailed him his stuff.

That sounds pretty extreme, but I can hardly decipher this horribly written post to make a judgment one way or the other.

[ScaredWorkedBored]

Spending time on your significant other during work = terminated. That's not a "mean law firm" thing, either. Plenty of companies will terminate you on the spot for personal e-mail use, let alone "Hey, BF's here, lata."

Hell, when my father was working in-house, he summarily fired someone for similar. Now, getting in the face of the GC who happens to be in your department to talk to your boss probably didn't help matters. But considering "talk back to GC" was believed to be appropriate response to GC wondering "You work here, what the hell are you doing kissing someone in the lobby at 10:45 am?" there seems to be a connection.

This person had worked there for 3 1/2 years, by the way. They mailed him his stuff.

That sounds pretty extreme, but I can hardly decipher this horribly written post to make a judgment one way or the other.

Chain of events for illiterate:

GC (my father) is arriving at department where Romeo works to talk to Romeo's boss.
Department is in different building than GC's office, necessitates using skywalk
En route through skywalk lobby, GC sees Romeo hanging out with and smooching Juliet in (public) skywalk lobby.
GC has a good memory and recognizes Romeo from previous visit to department.
GC realizes Romeo should be at his desk at the moment.
GC asks Romeo what the hell he thinks he's doing.
Romeo decides to defend actions with some "I have a life" BS.
GC adds "What the hell is this guy doing working here?" to agenda with Romeo's boss.
Romeo's boss decides that's a damn good question.
Romeo is escorted out of the building.
Romeo receives his desk in a box.

If you haven't learned about employment at will yet in law school, pull this or similar at most places of employment. You'll see more clearly.

[romothesavior]

GC (my father) is arriving at department where Romeo works to talk to Romeo's boss.
Department is in different building than GC's office, necessitates using skywalk
En route through skywalk lobby, GC sees Romeo hanging out with and smooching Juliet in (public) skywalk lobby.
GC has a good memory and recognizes Romeo from previous visit to department.
GC realizes Romeo should be at his desk at the moment.
GC asks Romeo what the hell he thinks he's doing.
Romeo decides to defend actions with some "I have a life" BS.
GC adds "What the hell is this guy doing working here?" to agenda with Romeo's boss.
Romeo's boss decides that's a damn good question.
Romeo is escorted out of the building.
Romeo receives his desk in a box.

If you haven't learned about employment at will yet in law school, pull this or similar at most places of employment. You'll see more clearly.

Easy broski. I definitely think that sounds legit, but there is a difference between making out with your SO when you should be working and having lunch with your SO over your lunch break. But yeah, we get your point.

[dresden doll]

Chain of events for illiterate:

GC (my father) is arriving at department where Romeo works to talk to Romeo's boss.
Department is in different building than GC's office, necessitates using skywalk
En route through skywalk lobby, GC sees Romeo hanging out with and smooching Juliet in (public) skywalk lobby.
GC has a good memory and recognizes Romeo from previous visit to department.
GC realizes Romeo should be at his desk at the moment.
GC asks Romeo what the hell he thinks he's doing.
Romeo decides to defend actions with some "I have a life" BS.
GC adds "What the hell is this guy doing working here?" to agenda with Romeo's boss.
Romeo's boss decides that's a damn good question.
Romeo is escorted out of the building.
Romeo receives his desk in a box.

If you haven't learned about employment at will yet in law school, pull this or similar at most places of employment. You'll see more clearly.

This post is hilarious. I mean that in a good way.

I will say, however, that it appears a bit extreme to fire someone over a first-time offense like that.

[bilbobaggins]

Chain of events for illiterate:

GC (my father) is arriving at department where Romeo works to talk to Romeo's boss.
Department is in different building than GC's office, necessitates using skywalk
En route through skywalk lobby, GC sees Romeo hanging out with and smooching Juliet in (public) skywalk lobby.
GC has a good memory and recognizes Romeo from previous visit to department.
GC realizes Romeo should be at his desk at the moment.
GC asks Romeo what the hell he thinks he's doing.
Romeo decides to defend actions with some "I have a life" BS.
GC adds "What the hell is this guy doing working here?" to agenda with Romeo's boss.
Romeo's boss decides that's a damn good question.
Romeo is escorted out of the building.
Romeo receives his desk in a box.

If you haven't learned about employment at will yet in law school, pull this or similar at most places of employment. You'll see more clearly.

This post is hilarious. I mean that in a good way.

I will say, however, that it appears a bit extreme to fire someone over a first-time offense like that.

Super extreme. Even in consulting, as long as it's not in front of a client, no one would give a shit. It would be bizarre to fire a productive employee over a single incident like the one described.

[romothesavior]

ScaredWorkedBored's dad is a BADASS!!!

[chicagolaw2013]

During my work since college, my boyfriend visited ONCE...on my birthday, to drop off flowers, as a surprise. Really sweet, boss thought it was cute-sy. Other than that, I would have NEVER had a friend/boyfriend/family member/ANYONE show up at my office, announced or unannounced. And I had the chillest bosses in the history of corporate life (I'm convinced...they were cool as hell).

The time you are spending sucking face with boy toy is time not being spent on work. You are being paid for your time, so STFU and do your work. Especially in the case of the legal world, where billables can come into play.

OP, you are seriously a fucking idiot, and I hope to God that this is flame, because the thought that you actually attend an ABA accredited law school and actually got a 1L SA position makes me fear for the future of the law profession.

[on_ne_sait_jamais]

During my work since college, my boyfriend visited ONCE...on my birthday, to drop off flowers, as a surprise. Really sweet, boss thought it was cute-sy. Other than that, I would have NEVER had a friend/boyfriend/family member/ANYONE show up at my office, announced or unannounced. And I had the chillest bosses in the history of corporate life (I'm convinced...they were cool as hell).

The time you are spending sucking face with boy toy is time not being spent on work. You are being paid for your time, so STFU and do your work. Especially in the case of the legal world, where billables can come into play.

OP, you are seriously a fucking idiot, and I hope to God that this is flame, because the thought that you actually attend an ABA accredited law school and actually got a 1L SA position makes me fear for the future of the law profession.

Your response makes me fear for the future of the law profession. There are so many things wrong with your response it's ridiculous. Appearance vs. reality, Substance vs. Fluff, production vs. anal retentive... this is why the future is bleak- most lawyers choose the wrong option.

[Eric475]

It seems like OP has abandoned this thread. Probably a flame that has ignited 4 pages of argumentation

[chicagolaw2013]

During my work since college, my boyfriend visited ONCE...on my birthday, to drop off flowers, as a surprise. Really sweet, boss thought it was cute-sy. Other than that, I would have NEVER had a friend/boyfriend/family member/ANYONE show up at my office, announced or unannounced. And I had the chillest bosses in the history of corporate life (I'm convinced...they were cool as hell).

The time you are spending sucking face with boy toy is time not being spent on work. You are being paid for your time, so STFU and do your work. Especially in the case of the legal world, where billables can come into play.

OP, you are seriously a fucking idiot, and I hope to God that this is flame, because the thought that you actually attend an ABA accredited law school and actually got a 1L SA position makes me fear for the future of the law profession.

Your response makes me fear for the future of the law profession. There are so many things wrong with your response it's ridiculous. Appearnce vs. realiy, Substance vs. Fluff, production vs. anal retentive... this is why the future is bleak- most lawyers choose the wrong option.

lolwut?

[bilbobaggins]

During my work since college, my boyfriend visited ONCE...on my birthday, to drop off flowers, as a surprise. Really sweet, boss thought it was cute-sy. Other than that, I would have NEVER had a friend/boyfriend/family member/ANYONE show up at my office, announced or unannounced. And I had the chillest bosses in the history of corporate life (I'm convinced...they were cool as hell).

The time you are spending sucking face with boy toy is time not being spent on work. You are being paid for your time, so STFU and do your work. Especially in the case of the legal world, where billables can come into play.

OP, you are seriously a fucking idiot, and I hope to God that this is flame, because the thought that you actually attend an ABA accredited law school and actually got a 1L SA position makes me fear for the future of the law profession.

Your response makes me fear for the future of the law profession. There are so many things wrong with your response it's ridiculous. Appearnce vs. realiy, Substance vs. Fluff, production vs. anal retentive... this is why the future is bleak- most lawyers choose the wrong option.

lolwut?

I think one of the points was the bolded is super melodramatic.

[dresden doll]

It would be bizarre to fire a productive employee over a single incident like the one described.

TBF, I did hear that two associates were fired last summer for kissing at a social event their firm threw. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if said firm was merely looking for an excuse to get rid of superfluous employees/cut the fat.

[savagecheater]

Your boyfriend shouldn't be visiting you, and why are you taking 20 min breaks?

You should be counting your lucky stars you have a SA as a 1L. Get back to work.

[chicagolaw2013]

During my work since college, my boyfriend visited ONCE...on my birthday, to drop off flowers, as a surprise. Really sweet, boss thought it was cute-sy. Other than that, I would have NEVER had a friend/boyfriend/family member/ANYONE show up at my office, announced or unannounced. And I had the chillest bosses in the history of corporate life (I'm convinced...they were cool as hell).

The time you are spending sucking face with boy toy is time not being spent on work. You are being paid for your time, so STFU and do your work. Especially in the case of the legal world, where billables can come into play.

OP, you are seriously a fucking idiot, and I hope to God that this is flame, because the thought that you actually attend an ABA accredited law school and actually got a 1L SA position makes me fear for the future of the law profession.

Your response makes me fear for the future of the law profession. There are so many things wrong with your response it's ridiculous. Appearnce vs. realiy, Substance vs. Fluff, production vs. anal retentive... this is why the future is bleak- most lawyers choose the wrong option.

lolwut?

I think one of the points was the bolded is super melodramatic.

You do realize the last part of my response was meant for lols, correct?

Jaysus.